Forged invoice.

[fishardansin]

As an Essendon supporter that still holds out strong hope that the club didn't actually cross any lines last year the piece of information that has worried me the most is that invoice from the hyperbaric centre and the story of "thymosin peptide". It is fairly well known that no one is going down for AOD so it is real performance enhancers that are I'm worried about. The invoice with "amino acids" could mean anything and "thymosin peptide" could be the dreaded beta 4.

Anyhow the word going around tonight is that the invoice was forged because the players never recieved that many injections, and Zaharakis was down as getting injected. There is also talk that the amount of injections across the whole program was no where near what the club was billed for.

Perhaps Fogdog's claims about this being more of a police investigation regards fraud and ASADA checking if evidence of any rogue behavior occurred is on the money.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I'm assuming the extra injections Dank used where the ones he was experimenting with in his lab but not on players.

 

[campbell]

As an Essendon supporter that still holds out strong hope that the club didn't actually cross any lines last year the piece of information that has worried me the most is that invoice from the hyperbaric centre and the story of "thymosin peptide". It is fairly well known that no one is going down for AOD so it is real performance enhancers that are I'm worried about. The invoice with "amino acids" could mean anything and "thymosin peptide" could be the dreaded beta 4.

Anyhow the word going around tonight is that the invoice was forged because the players never recieved that many injections, and Zaharakis was down as getting injected. There is also talk that the amount of injections across the whole program was no where near what the club was billed for.

Perhaps Fogdog's claims about this being more of a police investigation regards fraud and ASADA checking if evidence of any rogue behavior occurred is on the money.

Is this cause sam lane said so on tv? Cause that was a fluff piece. She also said essendon didnt have a copy of the report!

 

[campbell]

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I'm assuming the extra injections Dank used where the ones he was experimenting with in his lab but not on players.

Oh my

 

[Keys]

Haha - I had been contemplating starting a thread on this but was unsure of what had been reported/ what was true. Apart from the forged invoice is there also not a suggestion that some of the substances invoiced were not actually received/used and may have actually been used by dank in his private clinic and not by essendon

If so surely the bombers would be seeking to lay criminal charges as this would constitute fraud/embezzlement

Tbh it appears to me that the football department at essendon in 2012 was completely dysfunctional and as a result it may well be that the confusion within the club will ultimately lead to the club and their players getting away with taking a banned substance because nobody had a clue wtf was going on and the evidence is inconclusive

 

[Brown Bottle]

I think you're onto something Keyser. So much smoke. So many mirrors. Is this an exercise in discrediting Dank even further?

I'm not sure that anyone who wasn't inside the club will ever know the truth of what really went down.

 

[Keys]

I think you're onto something Keyser. So much smoke. So many mirrors. Is this an exercise in discrediting Dank even further?

I'm not sure that anyone who wasn't inside the club will ever know the truth of what really went down.

One person knew everything -Dank. Not convinced anybody else knew everything because they were either deceived or happy to turn a blind eye or both

It's why I believe the players should escape sanction but the club as a collective needs to be punished with more than a fine

 

[fishardansin]

I think you're onto something Keyser. So much smoke. So many mirrors. Is this an exercise in discrediting Dank even further?

I'm not sure that anyone who wasn't inside the club will ever know the truth of what really went down.

We should be in bed!! I'll see you with a coffee in your hand!! ... for me!

 

[Keys]

We should be in bed!! I'll see you with a coffee in your hand!! ... for me!

Backs to the wall bb you've found an admirer

 

[Brown Bottle]

Like you'd ever knock back an offer Keyser!

 

[Brown Bottle]

We should be in bed!! I'll see you with a coffee in your hand!! ... for me!

I won't be far away from the coffee cart. Nothing is surer! See you in about 8 hrs

 

[Keys]

Like you'd ever knock back an offer Keyser!

I don't like needles

 

[fishardansin]

Backs to the wall bb you've found an admirer

Our sons are playing each other tomorrow. I've just finished a banner for my other son! ... and Australia got another wicket!

 

[fishardansin]

I don't like needles

What if I cut you a few lines?

 

[campbell]

Haha - I had been contemplating starting a thread on this but was unsure of what had been reported/ what was true. Apart from the forged invoice is there also not a suggestion that some of the substances invoiced were not actually received/used and may have actually been used by dank in his private clinic and not by essendon

If so surely the bombers would be seeking to lay criminal charges as this would constitute fraud/embezzlement

Tbh it appears to me that the football department at essendon in 2012 was completely dysfunctional and as a result it may well be that the confusion within the club will ultimately lead to the club and their players getting away with taking a banned substance because nobody had a clue wtf was going on and the evidence is inconclusive

If thats thye case was the invoice paid at the time.

Itemised for each injectable item for each player or itemised as amino acids and the players who receieved thee acids?

 

[fishardansin]

I won't be far away from the coffee cart. Nothing is surer! See you in about 8 hrs

I got no duties .. so I'll be there with you .... though I will have the equivalent of 3 cups for breakfast!!

 

[Keys]

What if I cut you a few lines?

Well played


That and the pipe are more our style

 

[Keys]

If thats thye case was the invoice paid at the time.

Itemised for each injectable item for each player or itemised as amino acids and the players who receieved thee acids?

Honestly who knows. All kinds of incompetence/deceit at windy hill last year

 

[Tiger71]

The extra injections could be Hirds and the coaches. Just disguised ?

 

[PieBeast]

Yep, everything was either forged, legal or for coaches.

In fact the risky and experimental injection program itself isn't real, don't listen to what Ziggy has to say and disregard all the evidence at hand apart from McVeigh's....



At least now we know where the OP's inside sources come from - his vivid imagination based on nothing but wishful thinking.

 

[fishardansin]

Yep, everything was either forged, legal or for coaches.

In fact the risky and experimental injection program itself isn't real, don't listen to what Ziggy has to say and disregard all the evidence at hand apart from McVeigh's....



At least now we know where the OP's inside sources come from - his vivid imagination based on nothing but wishful thinking.

You know you could have raised all of those points, except the last, without being a prick.

No doubt there is a story in the paper tomorrow about the use of legal peptides and vitamins in certain combinations in such a way that they could replicate HGH.

Also I didn't say everything was forged. Just that it seems likely now that some was and Dank was ripping off the club.

 

[LongBomb]

The Fogdog / Essendon drone relationship is pretty weird.

The Bomb Squad ‏@essendonbombsqd

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@fogdog_79 Fogdog you are the light that shines in darkness. When we are scared you are the one who calms us. #standbyfogdog #standbyhird

 

[PieBeast]

You know you could have raised all of those points, except the last, without being a prick.

No doubt there is a story in the paper tomorrow about the use of legal peptides and vitamins in certain combinations in such a way that they could replicate HGH.

Also I didn't say everything was forged. Just that it seems likely now that some was and Dank was ripping off the club.

Lets not beat around the bush mate, you deserve people acting like pricks towards you due to the way you carried on at the start of the saga. You reckon no one noticed you've stopped mentioning your supposed inside sources after the influx of all the negative info and are simply speculating and twisting every remote possibility in your club's favour during the last couple of months?
Anyways, didn't think I was that out of line and I'm sure you'll get over it pretty soon.

The idea of Dank ripping off your club is not all that far fetched, given that he was dealing with such an unstable and gullible megalomaniac like Hird but I'm fairly sure ASADA knows what substances were supplied to your club. The bloke Hird ran into accidentally ran into couple of times and the one ended up being the supplier of some if not most of the substances would have told them that.
And going by the reports in the media ASADA also know that banned substances were present at your club's premises.
Not sure how some fanciful article about vitamins and legal peptides(lol) is going to change any of that.

 

[Ando727]

Shouldn't matter if Dank ripped you off, or if anything was forged. Essendon should be accountable for what they intended to do, in addition to what can be proven to have happened.

 

[hugorune]

Accountable for what they 'intended' to do? Who will be the judge of that?