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loki04 said:
It's never been an issue and don't know why anyone has an issue with it.

He has shown he can kick them with low penetration or chip them to spot a better option if need be.

He isn't Buckley in his kicking but he is better then most the 22 who played this year from what I have seen.
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His TAC coach believed that has biggest weakness was he looked to kick at every opportunity rather than slip a hand pass out. This resulted in turn overs against quality opposition that waited in the space behind a contest. I haven't seen a game of Freemans (other than 15 mins in the pre season this year) but he looked a pretty decent kick, just that maybe his first panic option is to get boot on ball with no real thought other than send it down town.
 
PTpie said:
His TAC coach believed that has biggest weakness was he looked to kick at every opportunity rather than slip a hand pass out. This resulted in turn overs against quality opposition that waited in the space behind a contest. I haven't seen a game of Freemans (other than 15 mins in the pre season this year) but he looked a pretty decent kick, just that maybe his first panic option is to get boot on ball with no real thought other than send it down town.
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Fair enough I am only commenting off the small amount of footage that most would have seen, hopefully that issue gets coached out of him if it still is an issue.
 
There's nothing wrong with Nate's kicking technique, it's the decision making that needs some work as expected at such age.
He's a very dedicated young man so I'm sure he'll work hard on improving it.
 

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Jelly Bean said:
I guess they took a different path for Scharenberg...
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Working on the assumption that it's true that they just told Freeman to get ready for preseason even though he could have played...

I don't get it.

I was happy for Sharon to play VFL if he was right to go, but I can't see why you'd put one on ice and not the other.

Beyond "blah blah case by case basis". If they were both ready for some game time, surely you either play both or put both in the cupboard?
 
Dynamics said:
Working on the assumption that it's true that they just told Freeman to get ready for preseason even though he could have played...

I don't get it.

I was happy for Sharon to play VFL if he was right to go, but I can't see why you'd put one on ice and not the other.

Beyond "blah blah case by case basis". If they were both ready for some game time, surely you either play both or put both in the cupboard?
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I think the difference is the risk of reinjury. Scharenberg had a lengthy rehab and was ready to go with a bigger part of the AFL season left. His injury was considered settled and his new injury is unrelated. ACL could have happened to anyone on the list.

Freeman had a particularly bad hamstring injury and no matter how good the science these do have a habit of being reinjured. With 3-4 weeks left it may have reasonably been considered the benefits didn't outweigh the risk

It's not one size fits all.
 
PTpie said:
His TAC coach believed that has biggest weakness was he looked to kick at every opportunity rather than slip a hand pass out. This resulted in turn overs against quality opposition that waited in the space behind a contest. I haven't seen a game of Freemans (other than 15 mins in the pre season this year) but he looked a pretty decent kick, just that maybe his first panic option is to get boot on ball with no real thought other than send it down town.
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Works ok for beams..
 

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SApies said:
Ugh even thinking about Shazzas knee makes me angry! :(
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Most disappointing thing that happened in the season IMO. I don't feel any angst or unhappiness about where we finished but just thinking about Scharenberg doing an ACL makes my blood boil :(
 
Gone Critical said:
I think the difference is the risk of reinjury. Scharenberg had a lengthy rehab and was ready to go with a bigger part of the AFL season left. His injury was considered settled and his new injury is unrelated. ACL could have happened to anyone on the list.

Freeman had a particularly bad hamstring injury and no matter how good the science these do have a habit of being reinjured. With 3-4 weeks left it may have reasonably been considered the benefits didn't outweigh the risk

It's not one size fits all.
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I don't blame the ACL on anything other than shit luck. It certainly wasn't because he came back too soon, from what I have read and seen. I also don't disagree with anything you said. :)

What doesn't sit quite right with me is that Freeman allegedly said he was "ready to go" a month out and they said let's not risk even a minute of VFL. Even taking the nature of hamstrings into account, "ready to go" is ready to go. Call it a gut reaction rather than a criticism... It just doesn't sit right with me.
 
Bring_Back_Brad said:
Works ok for beams..
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No it doesn't. The one glaring weakness in his game is his tendency to throw the ball on his boot and hope for the best while in traffic.
Dynamics said:
I don't blame the ACL on anything other than shit luck. It certainly wasn't because he came back too soon, from what I have read and seen. I also don't disagree with anything you said. :)

What doesn't sit quite right with me is that Freeman allegedly said he was "ready to go" a month out and they said let's not risk even a minute of VFL. Even taking the nature of hamstrings into account, "ready to go" is ready to go. Call it a gut reaction rather than a criticism... It just doesn't sit right with me.
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I can see where you're coming from, but to be honest, I have to agree with the clubs stance. No point in risking re injuring a hamstring with only weeks to go in a season.
As for Scharenberg.... I can't bring myself to be angry about it. ACL injuries are just plain bad luck, and no amount of planning can prevent them. I'm bitterly dissapointed for the kid and the club, but nobody can be blamed for it.
 
I really hoped we were going to pick Aish on draft night.
 

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Vass said:
yeah same with me, but lets hope in the long term we made the right call.
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glad we got some bigger bodies, we had been greeting saplings the previous drafts, but Shaz and Freeman are built like tanks.
Hoping they will play like it too we need more physicality going forward
 
Dynamics said:
Working on the assumption that it's true that they just told Freeman to get ready for preseason even though he could have played...

I don't get it.

I was happy for Sharon to play VFL if he was right to go, but I can't see why you'd put one on ice and not the other.

Beyond "blah blah case by case basis". If they were both ready for some game time, surely you either play both or put both in the cupboard?
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Berg was a bone related issue, once they heal, they are healed. Freeman had a tissue/tendon problem, always a bit iffy coming back with a higher risk of recurrence. We were just unlucky Berg did his knee.
 
morgoth said:
Berg was a bone related issue, once they heal, they are healed. Freeman had a tissue/tendon problem, always a bit iffy coming back with a higher risk of recurrence. We were just unlucky Berg did his knee.
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I understand the differences between the injuries, I really do. I've had relatively substantial bone injuries and tendon injuries. But ready to go is ready to go.

I'd suggest that in reality they were NOT 100% convinced that he was ready to go so they put him in cotton wool.
 
Dynamics said:
I understand the differences between the injuries, I really do. I've had relatively substantial bone injuries and tendon injuries. But ready to go is ready to go.

I'd suggest that in reality they were NOT 100% convinced that he was ready to go so they put him in cotton wool.
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I guess the circumstances of the 'risk' vary from player to player.
For example, if the player was Didak going into the 2010 finals & he was given the all clear, then they would play him, however this was Freeman in his first year, who wasn't vital to our short term on field success, hence nothing really to gain, therefore put him on ice.
Finals in the AFL were becoming doubtful this year & Freeman was not going impact upon that, hence a no brainer.
 

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