Fremantle draft discussion

[hamush]

Seeing that we are going to finish bottom four this year again who should fremantle be drafting? Are there any good KPP's in this draft or will it be dominated by mids

 

[bman]

Well i think we need to get players with good poise and footskills. We need some top line mids and a few talls, so we should should just get the best available the first few rounds then draft for needs after, but we definetly need a few kpp in this draft.

 

[Ysaye]

I would like a KP forward with our first pick and hence Butcher should be at the top of our list but the reality is Melbourne will probably finish with less than five wins and get the concessionary pick and take both Scully and Butcher. I don't rate the other KPs as being worth a top 10 pick, so that being the case we should just go best available (As much as I agree with you Hamush about needing KPs).

Lucas, Morabito and maybe Koby Stevens are next in line. Morabito is very much a "freo" first round pick - fast athletic player with good skills and potential, I just reckon our recruiters would have him ahead of the other two at the moment.

Would really like Lewis Jetta to drafted to Freo second round.

 

[hamush]

I would like a KP forward with our first pick and hence Butcher should be at the top of our list but the reality is Melbourne will probably finish with less than five wins and get the concessionary pick and take both Scully and Butcher. I don't rate the other KPs as being worth a top 10 pick, so that being the case we should just go best available (As much as I agree with you Hamush about needing KPs).

Lucas, Morabito and maybe Koby Stevens are next in line. Morabito is very much a "freo" first round pick - fast athletic player with good skills and potential, I just reckon our recruiters would have him ahead of the other two at the moment.

Would really like Lewis Jetta to drafted to Freo second round.

from what ive seen this year i think Morabito is a better option than Lucas. He has better skills and better decision making(something we lack alot).

With Jetta i think he needs to work more on his defensive game

 

[Brunos23]

yer think freo should definatly be looking to draft Morabito.

Imagine 7-8 years down the track with Morabito and Hill running around together. Two genuine match winners

 

[Freo Dr]

I would like a KP forward with our first pick and hence Butcher should be at the top of our list but the reality is Melbourne will probably finish with less than five wins and get the concessionary pick and take both Scully and Butcher. I don't rate the other KPs as being worth a top 10 pick, so that being the case we should just go best available (As much as I agree with you Hamush about needing KPs).

Lucas, Morabito and maybe Koby Stevens are next in line. Morabito is very much a "freo" first round pick - fast athletic player with good skills and potential, I just reckon our recruiters would have him ahead of the other two at the moment.

Would really like Lewis Jetta to drafted to Freo second round.

Spot on Ysaye, friend at Swans reckons Jetta is pretty good.

Yesterday I saw Kyanga playing in the Easts versus Souths reserves match - how old is he? Was playing as the small forward and looked very good - my first live WAFL game for a while.

 

[Tundrawolf]

Spot on Ysaye, friend at Swans reckons Jetta is pretty good.

Yesterday I saw Kyanga playing in the Easts versus Souths reserves match - how old is he? Was playing as the small forward and looked very good - my first live WAFL game for a while.

Kyanga is too small, although he listed at 175cm and 70kgs. He has lightening pace but not much else. Has no depth or penertation in his kicking nor can he regularly hit a target.

IMO very much overrated by BF posters.

He is 19 yrs old.

May get a gig on an AFL list with GC concessions affecting the draft over the next couple of years---just hope it's not at Freo.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

from what ive seen this year i think Morabito is a better option than Lucas. He has better skills and better decision making(something we lack alot).

With Jetta i think he needs to work more on his defensive game

Hell no and no. At WAFL level Morabito has the size and speed to contest the ball, he also has incredible speed, Uses it to his advantage, his foot skills are highly questionable at times, Lucas foot skills would be some of the best in the draft.

Lucas at Colts level has been good and was allot better when he returned to the seniors in round 9. Ultimatly you cant expect to much at WAFL level while they are training and playing in the champs, his season so far appears to be rather static.

His performance in the U18's is being talked down, he played all day off the HF or FP. Looked good when up the ground and used his kicking to good effect setting up more than one goal early in the game. Give the kid a few preseasons and his impact will be large, is a prolific winner of the football outside and his strong turn of pace and damaging kicking will be worth their weight in gold.

Comes down to need. Personally i would rather Morabito, but only if Jetta comes to Westcoast. His kicking is elite.

 

[Chops_a_must]

Comes down to need. Personally i would rather Morabito, but only if Jetta comes to Westcoast. His kicking is elite.

I would imagine whoever has the higher pick out of WC and Freo, will take one of Lucas or Morabito, and the other the other (Unless someone bolts). And I think both would be happy with that.

Personally, I think WC could do with Lucas a little more than what we do, and vice versa for us. Maybe we're a bit neutral, because we have a decent inside brigade, and only need 1-2 outsiders. Whereas WC desperate need some finishing midfielders.

 

[mortizy]

yer think freo should definatly be looking to draft Morabito.

Imagine 7-8 years down the track with Morabito and Hill running around together. Two genuine match winners

you mean next year right?

 

[enoenoeno]

I would have thought Freo would be after an top flight KP and or Morabito depending on their view of who is available. Freo has focused its recent recruiting on the midfield, and with the addition of another mid in the 2 / 3 picks we will be adequately covered.

Don't forget KP's generally take time to develop, and we don't have many coming through (which unfortunately might prolong the career of Murphy at the club...)

 

[Ysaye]

I would have thought Freo would be after an top flight KP and or Morabito depending on their view of who is available. Freo has focused its recent recruiting on the midfield, and with the addition of another mid in the 2 / 3 picks we will be adequately covered.

Don't forget KP's generally take time to develop, and we don't have many coming through (which unfortunately might prolong the career of Murphy at the club...)

I still think we should take a gamble and see if we can't get John Butcher by trading our first pick and something (Say a Garrick Ibbotson or a Michael Johnson) for a higher pick - I just don't think the other forwards in this draft will be anything like quality at AFL level and paying a pick 3 - 5 for therefore is not going to be worth it.

The rest of the draft should be spent on midfielders of which there is a fair amount of depth this year.

 

[samseenee]

I still think we should take a gamble and see if we can't get John Butcher by trading our first pick and something (Say a Garrick Ibbotson or a Michael Johnson) for a higher pick - I just don't think the other forwards in this draft will be anything like quality at AFL level and paying a pick 3 - 5 for therefore is not going to be worth it.

The rest of the draft should be spent on midfielders of which there is a fair amount of depth this year.

No and No.

And no

 

[Ysaye]

No and No.

And no

Stop saying No

Drafting and trading is all about weighting up the value of players and the relative needs of the team.

Ibbotson and Johnson, whilst very good players in isolation of the team, don't hold down significant roles in our team (At best Johnson does is importantish as a back up ruckman). And neither have made significant steps in the last couple of years to suggest that they will get any better (Not that they couldn't mind you Melbourne fans! )

Butcher on the other hand would very likely fill a structural need for a quality power forward in a few years time, or IMO at the very worst make a good gorilla backman, another structural need.

I know supporters always grow fond of their own players but sometimes you have to do the team thing and look at the team.

 

[shark75]

No trading. Morabito seems to all the Goodes but doesnt have alot of control of his kicking. Lucus seems a better option.

skills and awareness makes your team quicker.

Dockers still need to draft a few more midfielders, last year we got alot of small/medium backs and forwards.

Maybe, in the end of the national dratf and all of the rookie draft go tall.

 

[coasting]

Their last draft is looking pretty good overall. Just continue to clean out the dead wood and put your faith in the draft and keep going.

Jetta is no better than his cousin who was drafted last year to Melbourne at #50. In the second round he would be a reach.

 

[Ysaye]

No trading. Morabito seems to all the Goodes but doesnt have alot of control of his kicking. Lucus seems a better option.

skills and awareness makes your team quicker.

Dockers still need to draft a few more midfielders, last year we got alot of small/medium backs and forwards.

Maybe, in the end of the national dratf and all of the rookie draft go tall.

Skills and awareness do make your team quicker, but you also need to be able to find the ball as well. I reckon at the moment Morabito and maybe Duncan as well are slightly better allround players than Lucas. However, there are plenty of midfielders around the same mark in this draft, so I think
there is little difference between picks 3 to 11 in terms of getting a midfielder. Howver, KP prospects drops quite sharply after Butcher (Panos is probably the next one in line and I reckon he is not worth as much as some of the earlier midfielders).

 

[samseenee]

Stop saying No

Drafting and trading is all about weighting up the value of players and the relative needs of the team.

Ibbotson and Johnson, whilst very good players in isolation of the team, don't hold down significant roles in our team (At best Johnson does is importantish as a back up ruckman). And neither have made significant steps in the last couple of years to suggest that they will get any better (Not that they couldn't mind you Melbourne fans! )

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No....

I thought Ibbo was pretty good last night.
Still think he should stay at Freo.

 

[Chops_a_must]

I'd be more inclined to trade Mundy than Ibbotson, although the perceived value is probably higher.

Mundy I'm not sure is ever going to make it. He may look good in a very good side, but he simply is a coward and you can't have that if you are going to be a serious team.

 

[greenred]

Stop saying No

Drafting and trading is all about weighting up the value of players and the relative needs of the team.

Ibbotson and Johnson, whilst very good players in isolation of the team, don't hold down significant roles in our team (At best Johnson does is importantish as a back up ruckman). And neither have made significant steps in the last couple of years to suggest that they will get any better (Not that they couldn't mind you Melbourne fans! )

Butcher on the other hand would very likely fill a structural need for a quality power forward in a few years time, or IMO at the very worst make a good gorilla backman, another structural need.

I know supporters always grow fond of their own players but sometimes you have to do the team thing and look at the team.

Ibbotson is in his second season of playing at AFL level. You don't expect him to find further improvement?

Johnson's career stalled, but he has found his feet again in 2009 and at worst is a quality utility.

No club will receive value trading players this season. Fremantle would do well to continue to build their team and expose youngsters like Ibbotson this year and hope they are competitive, yet finish with a high draft pick. Back your club in. They have done very well with what they have got in the last 2 drafts.

 

[hamush]

Should we be looking at Jack Fitzpatrick?

 

[Ysaye]

IMO Matthew Panos (Footballer) > Fitzpatrick (Athletic Freak), but would you take Panos or Fitzpatrick over Morabito/Lucas/Duncan, one or two of whom will be available at our first pick?

 

[Tundrawolf]

IMO Matthew Panos (Footballer) > Fitzpatrick (Athletic Freak), but would you take Panos or Fitzpatrick over Morabito/Lucas/Duncan, one or two of whom will be available at our first pick?

Gee that would be a tough call. I guess it's whomever the recruiting team rates higher. I'm a big fan of the three WA boys and Morabito in particular, but Freo have some pressing need for KPP at the moment.

I guess it comes down to how many real quality KPP's there are in the draft.

 

[The Purple Jesus]

I'd be more inclined to trade Mundy than Ibbotson, although the perceived value is probably higher.

Mundy I'm not sure is ever going to make it. He may look good in a very good side, but he simply is a coward and you can't have that if you are going to be a serious team.

Mundy a coward? WTF? Thats a bit harsh

 

[AGC]

I think people are underrating Griffiths a bit. I don't think he's at the Butcher level- but his progress has been stunted a bit by injuries. If he can get fit- he's incredibly atheltic and someone that would be a good forward in the coming years.