Freo Lineup 2002

[RacerX]

Sugeested 2002 lineup courtesy of the West Australian:
Backs
Parker Brown McPharlin

Half Backs
Jones Croad Carr

Centres
Walker Hasleby Woods

Half Forwards
McPhee Pavlich Waterhouse

Forwards
Farmer J.Longmuir Koops

Rucks
Michael Cook Bell

Interchange
Simmonds Kickett McManus T.Longmuir


Looks pretty good to me, I think there is great potential there.
What do you guys think?

 

[Balip]

It looks pretty good to me,

with a good preseason sraft pick we should start to creep up the ladder a little.

My only concern is that we drop away after that, of the players not in the team not a lot of them would be pushing for selection on last years performances.

 

[RacerX]

Originally posted by Balip

My only concern is that we drop away after that, of the players not in the team not a lot of them would be pushing for selection on last years performances.

Thats a good point - there may be a reasonable gap in ability between the above lineup and the rest of the squad.

My concern is that we are still vulnerable to pace thru the middle. Walker nad Macca are two of our rare fast small men - they will have a lot to do. Woods is a bit of a wildcard but seems to have a good speed.

 

[dees*gal]

Originally posted by Balip
It looks pretty good to me,

congrats - you got good trades, lets just see what happends now shall we?

 

[Visro]

With your #4 pick, you will probably pick up a pacy midfielder hoping that he can play AFL football immediately. Thats my bet anyway...

Vis

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Originally posted by RacerX
Looks pretty good to me, I think there is great potential there.

Well, i think that you shouldn't get your hopes up. Since 1995 you have been talking about "potential", and you are yet to make the finals. I'm not saying this to insult anyone, I'm just saying you shouldn't get your hopes up like the saints did last year.

I still think we will beat Freo in the two derbies (though i suppose you all will say the same about freo ). Good luck to freo.... maybe you scumbags might finally be on the right track.

 

[sabre_ac]

Originally posted by RacerX
Sugeested 2002 lineup courtesy of the West Australian:
Backs
Parker Brown McPharlin

Half Backs
Jones Croad Carr

Centres
Walker Hasleby Woods

Half Forwards
McPhee Pavlich Waterhouse

Forwards
Farmer J.Longmuir Koops

Rucks
Michael Cook Bell

Interchange
Simmonds Kickett McManus T.Longmuir


Looks pretty good to me, I think there is great potential there.
What do you guys think?

Gotta love that forward line
It will be up there with the best in 2002
Longmuir and Pavlich will only get better and become some of the stars of the game.
Waterhouse with much pressure taken off his shoulders should also excel.
Koops and Farmer will be our magicmen at the base of the packs.
I am delighted with finally having a forward setup to be proud of.

Midfield is a little iffy, walker has to finally step up
Pray that haselby has gotten over his second year blues
And it seems that Bell will burden much of the work again

Micheal if fit should be a real asset.

And finally our backline seems to have lost its shakeyness.
Parker will be able to play on men his own size.
Croad and Brown can easily hold down the stars of the game.
While Jones and Carr can be our mr Fixits.


Season 2002 looks to be a goer
(And yes sabre is getting ahead of himself ).

Throw in a player of sampi's calibre and the future is rosey

 

[RacerX]

Re: Re: Freo Lineup 2002

Originally posted by sabre_ac


Season 2002 looks to be a goer
(And yes sabre is getting ahead of himself ).

Throw in a player of sampi's calibre and the future is rosey

I think you have good reason to get excited.

We have suffered thru the lowest point in our history and now the dockers begin a steady climb up the ladder. The next few seasons will be our best yet!

 

[RacerX]

Re: Re: Freo Lineup 2002

Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes

I still think we will beat Freo in the two derbies (though i suppose you all will say the same about freo ). Good luck to freo.... maybe you scumbags might finally be on the right track.

Prepare for a role reversal wet toast follower. Dockers are going to make your boys look like a bunch of clapped out nancies next season. The bottom may just fall out of the WA chardonnay market.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

 

[FreoDocker]

Yeh next year looks good .. but I'm still a bit worried about the midfield.
Toia might never play again.
Dodd will be out for a bit of next year after doing his knee.
Prescott might not be kept on for next year.
Norrish looks like being delisted.

I think in the draft we need to target a midfielder such as hodge, sampi, Judd or Armstrong and hope that there is still some midfield quality when our next pick comes up in the 50's.
Also the preseason draft could be a big factor. I doubt we'd have enough room under the salary cap to target a player like misiti, but I've heard whispers about Cory McGrath and players like that.
If we could get another midfielder in the preseason draft I'd be stoked.

One things for sure, after finishing last, I don't think we can go much lower, next year looks very promising

 

[eagleskickass]

as much as it pains to say, When i predict a ladder next year Freo will be pushing for the 8(if your players finally reach they're potential you might even make it) and the eagles will be below them BUT 2003-2004 will be when the eagles too start the move up again.
Seriously, I am very strongly an Eagles supporter, but being a WA footy supporter i can't help but like to see the dockers go well(don't like them doing better than the Eagles mind you)
Good Luck, Hope we still beat ya's in the Derby

 

[FreoDocker]

I'm a huge Dockers supporter now, but before they came in I was a huge Eagles supporter, so I still have a soft spot for the eagles and WA footy in General.
But when it comes to the Derby ... All bets are off.

 

[dbhattarai]

heres my freo team....

B: Parker Brown McPharlin
HB: T.Longmiur Croad Jones
C: Carr Bell Walker
HF: McPhee Pavlich Koops
F: J.Longmiur Waterhouse Farmer
R: Michael Hasleby Cook

I: Woods Sampi McManus Kickett

Emg: Shipp Toia Simmonds
Dodd Presscott Cunningham Haddrill

I think starting Troy Longmiur at half back is essential, he is a good mark, has a lot of pace and can kick the ball long and accurately. He just had a bad season this year, expect good things from him next season.

And I think the Dockers will pick up a quality player in the pre-season draft, hopefully a midfielder. I don't know if we will have enough cap room for Misiti, but heres hoping Seriously, any solid midfielder would do.

Freo do have some injury concerns, it doesn't look look like Toia, Dodd or McPharlin can play til mid next season. In this case. we need players like Cunningham, Prescott (if he is still on the list), Hadrill etc to step up.

 

[jod23]

Geez, you guys would have to have the worst midfield in the comp... other than that though you look ok. Expect to get off the bottom but not out of the bottom 4.

 

[kuepper]

people in glass houses ...

Originally posted by jod23
Geez, you guys would have to have the worst midfield in the comp...

... says the man where his own club had one midfield player that carried so many passengers they had to get him a liscence.

Jod, I understand you are a passionate eagles man, but take off the blinkers and cast an eye over your *ahem* jet midfield.

3 words: pot, kettle, black.

 

[Voice of Reason]

bad news for 2002....

Unfortunately Michael and McPharlin have failed to recover from serious long-term injuries and cannot take their valuable, nay essential, place in the Dockers line-up.

In Round 1, after a burst of enthusiasm, Waterhouse and Farmer make conflicting leads and crash into each other (Gillespie-Waugh style) with Big Clive going down for the season and the Wiz missing the next 6 games. Then the Wiz is brought back, but sulks when taken off by Cameron Schwab (CEO & Coach & Messiah) with Freo 10 points down to the underrated Eagles with 10 minutes to go. He goes back to Tambellup to be consoled by his family. Permanently.

Koops and Jones get injured. Three or four times each. And McPhee gets the second year blues and is tagged out of the game by alert opposing coaches.

With no pace in the midfield, Freo get little of the ball, except when Peter Bell creates the impossible, and Croad, frustrated by this turn of events, gets suspended three times for headbutting Matthew Lloyd (when beaten), Darren Gaspar (for not joining Freo) and Peter Schwab (on the boundary line, for letting him join Freo).

On the plus side, Woods, Cunningham and Haddrill look promising.

Such is the thin line between success and failure. In case you think I'm being extreme, the above scenario is only 6 injuries and 1 suspension. We get that many knee reconstructions in a season! Depth is the key. And luck. And discipline. And good coaching. And a few other things.

 

[jod23]

Re: bad news for 2002....

Originally posted by Voice of Reason


With no pace in the midfield, Freo get little of the ball, except when Peter Bell creates the impossible, and Croad, frustrated by this turn of events, gets suspended three times for headbutting Matthew Lloyd (when beaten), Darren Gaspar (for not joining Freo) and Peter Schwab (on the boundary line, for letting him join Freo).

LMAO, i didnt know you were funny too VOR!! Top post mate.

 

[jod23]

Re: people in glass houses ...

Originally posted by kuepper


... says the man where his own club had one midfield player that carried so many passengers they had to get him a liscence.

Jod, I understand you are a passionate eagles man, but take off the blinkers and cast an eye over your *ahem* jet midfield.

3 words: pot, kettle, black.

I not once said that WC have a gun midfield. Last season your midfield was better with Bell, Black, Fletch and Cook. But now , you have lost 2 of your best 3 midfielders.

You will have a whole lot of problems with your midfield one suspects and Bell is no Cousins, he wont be able to carry the team like Cuz did or tried to do.

 

[kuepper]

Re: Re: people in glass houses ...

Originally posted by jod23
I not once said that WC have a gun midfield.

No, you said instead ours was the worst in the comp, and I disagree - you West Coasters own that crown sir, thats my only point.

Last season your midfield was better with Bell, Black, Fletch and Cook. But now , you have lost 2 of your best 3 midfielders.

Please don't forget the 'Ghost Dog' Paul Hasleby there champ. As for Black being in out top3 middfileders? No way - he has played ONE (last year) good year, and he did play well, no doubt, but one good year does not a career make, he backs it up this year at the saints, I'll have alot more respect for the bloke.

You will have a whole lot of problems with your midfield one suspects and Bell is no Cousins, he wont be able to carry the team like Cuz did or tried to do.

No, Bell is a hack who won 2 premierships and a best and Fairest with the Roo's, whio then proceeded to come across to Freo ajnd win another - back 2 back for 2 different clubs, what a hack!

Seriously, the point is Bell won't have to - lets just wait until squads for all sides are finalised post pre-season draft, then lets make sweeping statements eh Jod?

 

[Voice of Reason]

Lest I appear churlish, I should say that I am pleased that the Freo fans have some hope for the new season. A healthy competition is where all fans have some expectation of success and I don't want to rain on Freo's parade when it's an exciting time for the club. Good luck to you. I hope you get to the GF and lose by a point to the Eagles at the MCG in front of 100,000 West Australians in the biggest boost to Australian tourism ever.

 

[Tredders#16]

jod23, what r u on about? Freo has a pretty good mid-field. I agree with kuepper and the pot, kettle, black comment.
A.Fletcher and H.Black will be missed, but u would think a ready-made mid-fielder will be picked up either in the draft, or pre-season.
Go Freo!

signing off,
Tredders#16

Port Adelaide FC

 

[jod23]

Re: Re: Re: people in glass houses ...

Originally posted by kuepper

No, you said instead ours was the worst in the comp, and I disagree - you West Coasters own that crown sir, thats my only point.

Please don't forget the 'Ghost Dog' Paul Hasleby there champ. As for Black being in out top3 middfileders? No way - he has played ONE (last year) good year, and he did play well, no doubt, but one good year does not a career make, he backs it up this year at the saints, I'll have alot more respect for the bloke.

No, Bell is a hack who won 2 premierships and a best and Fairest with the Roo's, whio then proceeded to come across to Freo ajnd win another - back 2 back for 2 different clubs, what a hack!

Seriously, the point is Bell won't have to - lets just wait until squads for all sides are finalised post pre-season draft, then lets make sweeping statements eh Jod?

Sorry Kuepper but i think you may find that Freo will have the worst midfield in the comp next year unless they pick up a ready made youngster like Kerr or a quality player like Misiti. Losing Black and Fletcher is a big blow for your midfield. Cook is handy but Haselby is having all sorts of problems.

And again you put words in my mouth, i never once said Bell was a hack! Bell is a champion but he is no Ben Cousins. Anyway its all subjecture right now with the final lists yet to be finished. BUt i hope for your sake you fix up the holes in your midfield.

 

[TheMase]

Im afraid that I will have to agree with Jod23.

Their midfield would have to be one of the, if not the weakest in the competition.

They have good players in Bell, Cook, and Haselby for the midfield.

But for the midfield to be competitive. You will need each of these players on top of their game EVERY game. Not to mention no injuries, because in midfield area you have a lack of depth.

I think that in years to come you are going to have a great side, no doubt.

But at the moment you are still building.
Next year I would say that you will move up a few spots, possibly to 12th or so.

Injuries will be a major concern. Your starting lineup with no injuries or suspensions looks great. But IMO you have severe lack of depth across the board. If someone gets injured. Your stuffed.

Thats just my opinion, and thats that ....