Future Full-Back?

[RichosGuns]

Who will be our Future Fullback?

- Luke McGuane: 8 Games, 20y/o, 191cm, 86kgs*

- Will Thurstfield: 7 Games, 21y/o, 191cm, 83kgs*

- Graham Polak: 79 Games, 22y/o, 194cm, 93kgs

- Future draftee?

- Mature aged pick-up through trade or PSD


*Thursty and McGuane are both fairly slender and smallish for fullbacks considering at their ages they probably won't grow more then a couple of cm

 

[RichosGuns]

Just posed the question because Im not sure if any of our current crop (bar Polak) could go with the Gurillas of the competition which Bowden normally takes. Polak is best suited to CHF

 

[mad_doggy911]

None of the current crop strike me as future stay at home full backs.. if I were to choose one it would be Thursty from what I've seen so far. These 2 are likely to take on the next 2 tall/dangerous forwards.

 

[kainokaino]

Who will be our Future Fullback?

- Luke McGuane: 8 Games, 20y/o, 191cm, 86kgs*

- Will Thurstfield: 7 Games, 21y/o, 191cm, 83kgs*

- Graham Polak: 79 Games, 22y/o, 194cm, 93kgs

- Future draftee?

- Mature aged pick-up through trade or PSD


*Thursty and McGuane are both fairly slender and smallish for fullbacks considering at their ages they probably won't grow more then a couple of cm

a coupe of other boys were thrown into it aswell

including jackson and moore

i think none, polak will be alot better at chf or chb

next year i think we will be looking for a full back in the draft

 

[kainokaino]

but we could try schulz there

and ray hall isnt that bad and could play there at peak fitness

 

[RichosGuns]

but we could try schulz there

and ray hall isnt that bad and could play there at peak fitness

Clearly you don't remmeber the St Kilda game from last year then?

Ill fill you in. Schultz played CHB. Hall FB... We were killed!

to the tune of 103 points

 

[kainokaino]

Clearly you don't remmeber the St Kilda game from last year then?

like i said PEAK FITNESS

ray hall still has reached no were near hes best

and he hasnt been 100% for the last few years

hes had injurys here and there

he looks alot better there then the other boys mentioned

adleast hes got a bit of meat on him

 

[jezza]

Glass 192, 95
Rutten 191, 101
Scarlett 192, 95

Height isn't really an issue. Our guys simply need to keep bulking up but maintaining their agility and pace.

 

[RichosGuns]

like i said PEAK FITNESS

ray hall still has reached no were near hes best

and he hasnt been 100% for the last few years

hes had injurys here and there

he looks alot better there then the other boys mentioned

adleast hes got a bit of meat on him

I'll admit he's a pretty good size for a fullback. But at 26 i just don't think he has the talent.

Btw: Fraser kicked 10 on him that day

 

[kainokaino]

I'll admit he's a pretty good size for a fullback. But at 26 i just don't think he has the talent.

Btw: Fraser kicked 10 on him that day

yeah id like to see what the inside 50 count was that day

i remember the game now

seemed like the ball was in there half of the ground for about 90% of the game

i dont think anyone would of kept gherig under 6 on a day like that

 

[kainokaino]

and if someone like thursfield or mcguane was on him

he probably would of kicked about 15

 

[krustyman]

Its not only them that is too lightweight, so are all of the other younger players. I dont know who is in-charge of physical training but they havent gained much bulk since joining the club.

 

[kainokaino]

i agree

we have the skinniest team in the league

the likes of

shane edwarks- 179cm - 68kg
tasman clingan- 183 cm - 70 kg
travis casserly 187cm- 76kg
andrew collins 184cm- 71kg
danny meyer- 184cm - 70kg
luke mcgaune - 191cm- 76kg
carl petterson - 183cm- 70kg
JON- 188cm - 74kg
richare tambling - 181cm- 74kg
will thursfield 190cm- 76cm

all of those blokes could put on a good 5 kgs

it looks scary seeing that as the future of richmond

 

[RichosGuns]

i agree

we have the skinniest team in the league

the likes of

shane edwarks- 179cm - 68kg
tasman clingan- 183 cm - 70 kg
travis casserly 187cm- 76kg
andrew collins 184cm- 71kg
danny meyer- 184cm - 70kg
luke mcgaune - 191cm- 76kg
carl petterson - 183cm- 70kg
JON- 188cm - 74kg
richare tambling - 181cm- 74kg
will thursfield 190cm- 76cm

all of those blokes could put on a good 5 kgs

it looks scary seeing that as the future of richmond

These aren't there weights. dont trust them

look at footywire, much more accurate i believe

 

[PHX]

Edwards is 71-72kg already. 68kg was his draft camp weight.

McGuane does need to bulk up even more tho.


But anyway THursty is our future FB.

 

[Madtiger2006]

i agree

we have the skinniest team in the league

the likes of

shane edwarks- 179cm - 68kg
tasman clingan- 183 cm - 70 kg
travis casserly 187cm- 76kg
andrew collins 184cm- 71kg
danny meyer- 184cm - 70kg
luke mcgaune - 191cm- 76kg
carl petterson - 183cm- 70kg
JON- 188cm - 74kg
richare tambling - 181cm- 74kg
will thursfield 190cm- 76cm

all of those blokes could put on a good 5 kgs

it looks scary seeing that as the future of richmond

those numbers look pretty old. Those 2nd year players would be 5kg heavier than those stats say and the 3rd year players would be 10kg heavier than those stats say. I thought Thursfield was about 92kgs now. Thursty has alot of talent and I think he could make a very good full back

 

[astro_toby]

like i said PEAK FITNESS

ray hall still has reached no were near hes best

and he hasnt been 100% for the last few years

hes had injurys here and there

he looks alot better there then the other boys mentioned

adleast hes got a bit of meat on him

mate, ray hall is not in anyway part of richmonds future backline - he is a backup and i reckon he is happy & aware of that.

at full back thursty is our best chance with the current crop, but it would be great is we could acquire a full back in the draft or trade table - and allow thursty to be the third tall with polak playing at CHB.

even better will be if, against the smaller forward lines we play player x (new backman yet to be acquired) at full back - thurst at CHB and McGuane as the third tall and let Polak be an extra tall down forward. that is where is see us having an X-factor, or a trick - much like hunter at the eagles - Polak is a very important part in any possible future success

one trade i think all of us can be happy withj



i see Mcguane as the back up third tall for our next generation - and our next important full back is still not with us.
moore, jackson, hall - i think will eventually be cut. and schulz will always be a forward now - not a backman at all




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[Madtiger2006]

mate, ray hall is not in anyway part of richmonds future backline - he is a backup and i reckon he is happy & aware of that.

at full back thursty is our best chance with the current crop, but it would be great is we could acquire a full back in the draft or trade table - and allow thursty to be the third tall with polak playing at CHB.

even better will be if, against the smaller forward lines we play player x (new backman yet to be acquired) at full back - thurst at CHB and McGuane as the third tall and let Polak be an extra tall down forward. that is where is see us having an X-factor, or a trick - much like hunter at the eagles - Polak is a very important part in any possible future success

one trade i think all of us can be happy withj



i see Mcguane as the back up third tall for our next generation - and our next important full back is still not with us.
moore, jackson, hall - i think will eventually be cut. and schulz will always be a forward now - not a backman at all




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moore has shown good signs so far this year. He and Mcguane are pretty similar

 

[kainokaino]

i agree

we have the skinniest team in the league

the likes of

shane edwarks- 179cm - 68kg
tasman clingan- 183 cm - 70 kg
travis casserly 187cm- 76kg
andrew collins 184cm- 71kg
danny meyer- 184cm - 70kg
luke mcgaune - 191cm- 76kg
carl petterson - 183cm- 70kg
JON- 188cm - 74kg
richare tambling - 181cm- 74kg
will thursfield 190cm- 76cm

all of those blokes could put on a good 5 kgs

it looks scary seeing that as the future of richmond

yep wrong info

there weights are

shane edwards - 71kgs
tasmon clingan- still the same
travis casserly- 80kg
andrew collins- 72kg
danny meyer- 76kg
luke mcguane- 85kg
carl petterson- 72kg
JON- 80kg
richard tambling- 80kg
will thursfield- 83kg

 

[lids2004roar]

Thursfield is probably not a stay at home type of player.

He did so well on Nick Riewoldt because he could run with him all day and cover the same ground.

Standing one on one Luke McGuane may be better, but I don't remember Thursfield well enough to make the call.

 

[astro_toby]

moore has shown good signs so far this year. He and Mcguane are pretty similar

exactly - thats the point

why do we need two players that can play the 3 tall, without being capable of playing FB or CHB?

Mcguane is about the equal of moore except he is 2 years younger, heavier and taller. ditch moore

 

[jezza]

exactly - thats the point

why do we need two players that can play the 3 tall, without being capable of playing FB or CHB?

Mcguane is about the equal of moore except he is 2 years younger, heavier and taller. ditch moore

And if one gets injured?

 

[Roger Dodger]

For a young guy coming back from a knee reconstruction a helluva lot of pressure is being put on poor Thursfield, what's more, before he has played a game this year.

He may be the obvious option to groom for the fullback position but we need to develop other options immediately. And not as inside-outside-ringside-blindside-broadside-flipside HFB-BP-what a load of BS. More than one player can be taught to hold down fullback and they better start now. It has been our most glaring weakness for two decades.

If we don't have the talent to mould down there - recruit it in a hurry.

 

[astro_toby]

And if one gets injured?

and if one gets injured play Jon there - he is only one cm shorter, 5 kilo's lighter but 3 years younger. don't keep more there as an injury back up, keep a younger player who is developing as those sort of "break glass incase of emergency" types.

i don't think moore is useless or anything - i think he has been ok this season - but i think mcguane is a better player and has more room and time for improvememnt

 

[Infamy]

With the new in the back rule the full back doesn't need to be a gorilla, he needs to be quick enough to keep up on the lead, if not overtake to get the punch in. You can't play from behind anymore.

Modern day defences are more of a unit rather than individual players, so with Polak, Thursfield, McGuane & Moore I think we have a pretty good structure to build around. They just need to play together as much as possible to develop and learn each other's game.