Game plan: 2015 vs 2016

[TheProwler]

It's not that his current game plan is wrong but our guys just can't play to it. The player comes through junior footy into the AFL system with a particular skill set and method of playing the game. No need to reprogram and wind back the clock, play the player to his strengths.

I Can't think of a club or even a player that could play Hardwicks style of football. One thing is certain, the more times you handle the ball increases the amount of times a mistake can be made. Our current style of game revolves around rapid fire kicks and handballs back and across rather than moving it forward. Houli is a great example, three years ago he looked to run and advance the ball now he looks to handpass and then call for it again before fumbling it and a turn over results. He/we didn't do this in 2013 nor 2014. 2015 we certainly started over possessing the ball and this year it has evolved into a ludicrous over possession game that players can't execute and suffer mentally as a result. Confidence in ball movement is non existent, our forwards have no idea when to present up to the ball carrier and the ball carrier has no idea when to pull the trigger. It's a flamin disaster that we watch each and every week. Six goals today in almost perfect conditions is laughable.

Our kids all look to be failures as they can't execute his game style but in fact they are not. They just can't execute his style of game.

Two choices, change every player or change the game style, seems a simple answer to me.........

 

[pebblestone]

Was listening to Cotchin being interviewed a few weeks ago and one thing he said stuck with me and really bothers me.
He was talking about how well the young guys like Short, Markov, Castagna etc. have been going and how he loves the fresh way they play. He talked for a while about how it was really inspiring that they 'still play on instinct' and take the game on. My only thought was that this will be coached out of them soon enough and we'll have the next wave of robots that underperform.

 

[TigerImposter]

Was listening to Cotchin being interviewed a few weeks ago and one thing he said stuck with me and really bothers me.
He was talking about how well the young guys like Short, Markov, Castagna etc. have been going and how he loves the fresh way they play. He talked for a while about how it was really inspiring that they 'still play on instinct' and take the game on. My only thought was that this will be coached out of them soon enough and we'll have the next wave of robots that underperform.

Great point now Markov today and he was nowhere near aggressive as his first game. It was like he was in two minds

 

[Fishtamer26]

Great point now Markov today and he was nowhere near aggressive as his first game. It was like he was in two minds

Yeh markov plays like a skinny girl. Needs to be told agression and contested footy, including spoiling need to be his focus.

 

[TigerImposter]

Yeh markov plays like a skinny girl. Needs to be told agression and contested footy, including spoiling need to be his focus.

I think more señior blokes need this instilled in them. He's lightly framed and with the right development will be 10x better than Houli. I liked his natural flare , but my worry is DH screwing him over.

 

[robin kennedy]

It's not that his current game plan is wrong but our guys just can't play to it. The player comes through junior footy into the AFL system with a particular skill set and method of playing the game. No need to reprogram and wind back the clock, play the player to his strengths.

I Can't think of a club or even a player that could play Hardwicks style of football. One thing is certain, the more times you handle the ball increases the amount of times a mistake can be made. Our current style of game revolves around rapid fire kicks and handballs back and across rather than moving it forward. Houli is a great example, three years ago he looked to run and advance the ball now he looks to handpass and then call for it again before fumbling it and a turn over results. He/we didn't do this in 2013 nor 2014. 2015 we certainly started over possessing the ball and this year it has evolved into a ludicrous over possession game that players can't execute and suffer mentally as a result. Confidence in ball movement is non existent, our forwards have no idea when to present up to the ball carrier and the ball carrier has no idea when to pull the trigger. It's a flamin disaster that we watch each and every week. Six goals today in almost perfect conditions is laughable.

Our kids all look to be failures as they can't execute his game style but in fact they are not. They just can't execute his style of game.

Two choices, change every player or change the game style, seems a simple answer to me.........

 

[robin kennedy]

and there we have it,
a precise and accurate analasis
so refreshing to read
please someone make sure the club sees this.

PS: its obvious these guys would not even get a run at an afl club
if they were not better than the many who would love to but dont.

Thanks again

 

[wegetpumped]

i prefer the way we played in '13. i recall we ran amok v West Coast in Perth & they had no answer to us at all..... did the same to the Hawks in '12 & '13 as well!

Yes but it din't stack well in the finals hence he wanted to change it. Problem is the next game plan didn't work and he let it stick. Other teams have changed their game plan we didn't and teams have woken up to us so easy it isn't funny any more.

 

[wegetpumped]

Been watching a lot of footage from 2015. Long story short, our gameplan looks pretty much the same as it does now, we just look slower, lazier and at times less skillful.

Differences:

2015: Played quickly, took risks to reap rewards
2016: Ignore the risk, hold onto it and go sideways or backwards, eventually kicking to an impossible contest. We went backwards and sideways in 2015, but we'd eventually find a leading player or someone would come close to receive and then play on to get the ball moving quickly, which brings me to my next point.

2015: Players making leads and moving all over the place
2016: Flat footed players everywhere, few sideways kick and then kick and hope down the line (should be last resort)

Feel free to add anything constructive. If you're on the sackdimma bandwagon then try not to bring it to this thread.

It's very hard to move away from what you are asking as the problems you have listed lead the way of the former.
Players have been drilled into there heads to play the game plan that even if i better option exists further up the ground the first thing they do is look backwards and by than the spot up forward which was there in the first place isn't any more. Clubs like the hawks don't stick to one plan every week they switch it. Example last year in the finals WEST COAST trounced them they meet up again in the final and we know what happen.