Geelong rorting the system

[Pistol Night]

How is it always, and I literally mean ALWAYS Geelong? This is an honest question. Do they pay these players $100,000 a season or something?

You guys got Owies

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Geelong grass > Qld straw

We can fire our groundsmen and just let Matty graze all year long.
There's some footy department soft cap clawed back (pun intended) #SavingFootball

 

[Wojcinski]

How is it always, and I literally mean ALWAYS Geelong? This is an honest question. Do they pay these players $100,000 a season or something?

Because Geelong is the best AFL club

 

[Footy Smarts]

Red heads have been excluded from any kind of fashion and style too long now i applaud the move

Perfect model for Cotton On's Cameron Ling collection.

 

[voorhees]

How is it always, and I literally mean ALWAYS Geelong? This is an honest question. Do they pay these players $100,000 a season or something?

just a small wif of player movement..
and it's Geelong, year after year.
the media darlings!

 

[WillHayward]

I still don't understand how Geelong got pick 7 plus Bowes for free.

How was that deal ticked off?

Lower clubs (North, Bombers, Eagles, Tigers) would have taken Bowes and his salary.. Pick 7 was never required.

 

[STPer18]

I still don't understand how Geelong got pick 7 plus Bowes for free.

How was that deal ticked off?

Lower clubs (North, Bombers, Eagles, Tigers) would have taken Bowes and his salary.. Pick 7 was never required.

Hocking demanded it.

 

[Sttew]

Hocking demanded it.

And Gillon’s brother, a Cats supporter, told Hil to make it happen

 

[FootyLad0]

And Gillon’s brother, a Cats supporter, told Hil to make it happen

And the #GeelongMediaMafia collaborating with the #cfl to ensure it went down smoothly.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I still don't understand how Geelong got pick 7 plus Bowes for free.

How was that deal ticked off?

Lower clubs (North, Bombers, Eagles, Tigers) would have taken Bowes and his salary.. Pick 7 was never required.

He chose the Cats.

Pick 7 was to take his whole salary off their books. The Suns don’t give a **** about draft picks, they have their academy. Happy to give them away.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

None of the player stuff really adds up to much being wrong imo.

The only ridiculous deal is Scott being paid by a club sponsor outside of the soft cap. That is absolutely scandalous and how on earth that was ticked off, who would know.

 

[FootyLad0]

How is it always, and I literally mean ALWAYS Geelong? This is an honest question. Do they pay these players $100,000 a season or something?

Not overpaying “good” players “elite” player money is an excellent starting point.
Been that way since the 00’s Premiership years. Very strict salary structure in place.

Guys know if they value money most they can walk…just saw Holmes and Stengle turn down more money to stay.
Players know that Cats will not bottom out and will do whatever they can to put them in a position to succeed during their career and after it.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Added to Geelong's list from other clubs last 10 off-seasons:

Scott Selwood
Patrick Dangerfield
Lachie Henderson
Sam Menegola
Zac Smith
Aaron Black
Zac Touhy
Gary Ablett
Stewart Crameri
Luke Dahlhaus
Nathan Kreuger
Gary Rohan
Josh Jenkins
Isaac Smith
Shaun Higgins
Jeremy Cameron
Tyson Stengle
Jack Steven
Jonathan Ceglar
Tanner Bruhn
Oliver Henry
Jack Bowes
Emerson Jeka
Jack Martin
Bailey Smith

25 pre-loved players in 10 years. 3 dudes just named Smith alone. Another 3 named Jack. Cats are the garbage collectors of the AFL.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Not overpaying “good” players “elite” player money is an excellent starting point.
Been that way since the 00’s Premiership years. Very strict salary structure in place.

Guys know if they value money most they can walk…just saw Holmes and Stengle turn down more money to stay.
Players know that Cats will not bottom out and will do whatever they can to put them in a position to succeed during their career and after it.

Funny how Cats players turn down aparently better offers from other clubs to stay.

 

[STPer18]

The first rort of many for the year. Long may we rort.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Prestia
Nankervis
Lynch
Caddy
Houli
Taranto
Chaplin
Grigg
Hunt
Miles
Moore
Townsend
Weller
Koschitzke
Hopper
Dow

I couldn't be bothered searching them all but you get the picture.

9 in the last 10 years. Probably the least in the AFL V (at least) 25 for Cats, probably the most in the AFL. If you wanted to go back further than 10 years as you have done here for Richmond, the likes of Mitch Clark, Rhys Stanley, Cam Delaney, Jared Rivers, Hamish McIntosh, Josh Caddy, James Podsiadly, Jesse Stringer are in play.

By the way, what other club did Thomson Dow ever play for?

 

[FootyLad0]

9 in the last 10 years. Probably the least in the AFL V (at least) 25 for Cats, probably the most in the AFL. If you wanted to go back further than 10 years as you have done here for Richmond, the likes of Mitch Clark, Rhys Stanley, Cam Delaney, Jared Rivers, Hamish McIntosh, Josh Caddy, James Podsiadly, Jesse Stringer are in play.

By the way, what other club did Thomson Dow ever play for?

Pretty sure there was an extensive article done on this and Cats weren’t even top 5 from what I can remember but it was a while ago so I’ll have to look for it.

People overreacting rather than just accepting they don’t like something so they’ll change the narrative to suit their worldview…

You wouldn’t fit that criteria right?

 

[random260]

Here comes the Manchester City cats coming after Rowell.

Manchester City cats your a disgrace.

It's very clear geelong a propped up by evil forces. Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them being funded by oil tycoons or the middle east. An audit is needed

 

[WillHayward]

He chose the Cats.

Pick 7 was to take his whole salary off their books. The Suns don’t give a **** about draft picks, they have their academy. Happy to give them away.

I'm not buying it.
He's a pretty decent player and was contracted.
Suns had a little leverage and could have got a better deal.
Still doesn't add up imo.

 

[FootyLad0]

I'm not buying it.
He's a pretty decent player and was contracted.
Suns had a little leverage and could have got a better deal.
Still doesn't add up imo.

He was playing VFL before he got to Geelong, GC didn’t want him and Jack himself said he wanted to stay being a QLD kid with a Brisbane based partner. GC pushed him out cause they needed cap space to re-sign multiple star players who came OOC at once and overpaying him thinking his potential would allow him to blossom into a superstar.
Jack always had potential (top 10 pick) he just had niggling injuries.

It’s why it’s risky drafting a lot of guys in the same draft year early (looking at you Richmond). You’re better off staggering the years so that you can manage your cap better but being it is Gold Coast……yeah not great.

They were not getting anyone to take on that bloated contract for nothing, hence it being a salary dump.
The incentive to take the bad contract is the draft pick.
Don’t believe me? Just read what Craig Cameron their General Manager said.

“Jack has had limited opportunities at AFL level behind our incumbent midfielders, so both Jack and the club agreed it would be in his best interests to explore further playing opportunities elsewhere,"

When it came time for Jack to pick where he wanted to go, about 6 teams put their hand up.
Jack’s agent knew most of them didn’t care about him and just wanted the pick, they had no initial interest eg Brisbane, Essendon, Adelaide, and can’t think of the last team…

Jack had genuine interest in him prior to that offseason by two teams. Geelong and Hawthorn.
What it came down to was that Danger was his mentor at under 18 championships so he and Danger went way back.
He and Danger also had the same agent which made it even easier.

Cats had Danger texting him trying to recruit him multiple times in years prior to the offseason but this time Jack and his agent officially met with Danger, Scotty and Steven Hocking.
They promised him game time and a midfield role. They’ve delivered on that.
The rest is history.

 

[Freomaniac]

It's over, Steve Hocking had one look at the proposed 'investigation' and just said "yeah, nah" and the AFL ended it right there and then. Geelong-based business Morris Finance are looking forward to Chris Scott providing them exceptional value in his new role as Chief of Leadership and Performance.

That's fine. Now the AFL has to have an investigation about Port Adelaide fans being violent towards Ken Hinkley LoL

 

[Freomaniac]

Same with Ablett Senior. I assume Slime Roy was alluding to Alicia Horan’s death which occurred 5 years after Ablett had retired.

Do we blame Essendon FC for what Olarenshaw was allegedly up to in Bali, and do we blame StKilda FC for what Sam Fisher’s drug dealing in 2022?

Good points.

Some of those eagles 2006 premiership players got into off Field problems after their playing days are done

 

[STPer18]

Prestia
Nankervis
Lynch
Caddy
Houli
Taranto
Chaplin
Grigg
Hunt
Miles
Moore
Townsend
Weller
Koschitzke
Hopper
Dow

I couldn't be bothered searching them all but you get the picture.

Pretty sure there was an extensive article done on this and Cats weren’t even top 5 from what I can remember but it was a while ago so I’ll have to look for it.

People overreacting rather than just accepting they don’t like something so they’ll change the narrative to suit their worldview…

You wouldn’t fit that criteria right?

The trade period gets the nuffers frothing about Geelong but what they fail to realise is that it's just a smokescreen for the real rort, the Rookie Draft/Cat B rookies where Wellsy plucks guys from obscurity ala the reigning Rising Star. It's still very much a rort, just not the rort our opposition friends think it is.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I'm not buying it.
He's a pretty decent player and was contracted.
Suns had a little leverage and could have got a better deal.
Still doesn't add up imo.

He’s a spud.

But really its not that different to any other trade.

Most players nominate the club they want to go to.

Fans hate it because we know there could quite possibly be a better deal elsewhere. But the player has to agree.

Geelong got him in and the Suns were dead keen to get him out.

 

[Sttew]

I'm not buying it.
He's a pretty decent player and was contracted.
Suns had a little leverage and could have got a better deal.
Still doesn't add up imo.

The Suns controlled this deal they needed to offload salary cap pressure