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Does Geelong have a weakness?

Every team has strong and weak areas. The Eagles is obviously its forward line and kicking goals.

IMO Geelongs weakest point is the ruck now that King is gone. If you lose Ottens then the batton passes to Blake and ?????

After last years efforts what area of your list do believe is the weakest point?
 
Tall forwards. Mooney had a great season but we need to see if he keeps it up. Hawkins is yet to prove anything.

Rucks I think are OK, Blake is actually pretty good and West is ready.

That's about it really.
 
Obeanie1 said:
Does Geelong have a weakness?

Every team has strong and weak areas. The Eagles is obviously its forward line and kicking goals.

IMO Geelongs weakest point is the ruck now that King is gone. If you lose Ottens then the batton passes to Blake and ?????

After last years efforts what area of your list do believe is the weakest point?
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Given that King only played a handfull of games last year I don't see this as an area of weakness.
 

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At the moment no weak links, however a key injury could change that.

A injury to Ottens or Mooney could be a major problem as these guys would be the hardest to cover. Midfield depth means an injury or two could be covered. Backline looks good (would prefer Egan back) although would not want to lose another tall from down back.
 
RangaInTeal said:
Big blokes! Ruck is very weak and Power forwards are not far away, Me thinking Tom Hawkins too slow for AFL football ATM!
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Ottens was one of the best ruckman last year and Blake is very serviceable. We also have West pushing through and he has been developing quite well in the VFL.

Hawkins will play out of the goalsquare. Once he masters his strength, he will not need to be fast.
 
Jesus bounce the ball for round one already!
Every team would struggle losing their best ruckmen, their best forward, their best back, their best (_______Fill the blanks).........

If we can put relatively the same team on the park every week, we will go a long way towards making it back to back. in fact, it would almost even be considered a failed year if we dont! There are no weaknesses in the starting 22 - rewind and rewatch the GF tape to prove that! And more to come this year!!
 
Sttew said:
Given that King only played a handfull of games last year I don't see this as an area of weakness.
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Obviously the Cats list management feel the same way or they wouldn't have shown King the door. This is quite interesting as if Ottens is out you have a young emerging ruck in the middle and on the bench plus you will be missing a quality tall rotating forward.

Ottens and Mooney. These two are your linch pins IMHO.

Backline looks the most solid third of the side.
 
a.f.k.a.y.o.p. said:
Jesus bounce the ball for round one already!
Every team would struggle losing their best ruckmen, their best forward, their best back, their best (_______Fill the blanks).........

If we can put relatively the same team on the park every week, we will go a long way towards making it back to back. in fact, it would almost even be considered a failed year if we dont! There are no weaknesses in the starting 22 - rewind and rewatch the GF tape to prove that! And more to come this year!!
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Come on show a tad bit of humility mate! Their not supermen you know!!!

Ok, ok....IF your starting 22 are all in form and fit no weakness. But thats probably true for the top 3 sides. And how often is 22 players fully fit and in top form?

Depth in the ruck and CHF are Geelongs weakints. The hard question is;

If Ottens or Mooney have an off day who will be likely to step up in those positions without performance dropping significantly?
 
We don't have many big men that can go forward and act as target.

Mooney really does give us forward structure (and not the structure Hank gave us in 2005 - 06).

Tomma doesn't have the engine yet and Ottens has proven he is a Ruck who can kick goals not the other way around.
 
RangaInTeal said:
Big blokes! Ruck is very weak and Power forwards are not far away, Me thinking Tom Hawkins too slow for AFL football ATM!
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pwft, what would you know, you probably think the football world still revolves around
Warren "i like to bend over and cop it sweet" Tredrea:thumbsd:
 

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Obeanie1 said:
Come on show a tad bit of humility mate! Their not supermen you know!!!

Ok, ok....IF your starting 22 are all in form and fit no weakness. But thats probably true for the top 3 sides. And how often is 22 players fully fit and in top form?

Depth in the ruck and CHF are Geelongs weakints. The hard question is;

If Ottens or Mooney have an off day who will be likely to step up in those positions without performance dropping significantly?
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Humility blew off with the lid last year mate.
We have been trying to hold our excitement since about round 10 last year, and no longer need to do it! Im not making any apologies for thinking that this team this year may even prove better than last years.....lets wait and see.
Whats promising is that we have Gamble and Lonergan to come into the side if we drop a big forward, which is a big improvement on having Charlie G last year. And all indications are that West is showing better skills and ability than Blake, for whom we traded SK, so we may be ok there as well. Time will tell.
 
I think our biggest weakness is a lack of a small defender who can negate a good leading small forward. Over the last few years we've had players like Brad Johnson, Russell Robertson and Mark Williams kick bags against us. Our key defenders in Scarlett, Harley and Egan are superb, and Milburn and Mackie are excellent in rebounding off the half back line, but we don't really have a defender who can properly negate a small leading forward.

Hunt is OK, but in the finals he tended to struggle against the likes of Edwards, Rusling and Ebert. Luckily for him the rest of the defenders did their job admirably, and Ebert was rather inaccurate on grand final day. I have a feeling more and more opposition coaches will try and isolate Hunt's opponent this season for just this reason.
 
Obeanie1 said:
Does Geelong have a weakness?

Every team has strong and weak areas. The Eagles is obviously its forward line and kicking goals.

IMO Geelongs weakest point is the ruck now that King is gone. If you lose Ottens then the batton passes to Blake and ?????

After last years efforts what area of your list do believe is the weakest point?
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Trent West
 
Obeanie1 said:
Come on show a tad bit of humility mate! Their not supermen you know!!!

Ok, ok....IF your starting 22 are all in form and fit no weakness. But thats probably true for the top 3 sides. And how often is 22 players fully fit and in top form?

Depth in the ruck and CHF are Geelongs weakints. The hard question is;

If Ottens or Mooney have an off day who will be likely to step up in those positions without performance dropping significantly?
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From about round 6 onwards, in 2007 if my memory serves me correctly:thumbsu::thumbsu::D:D
 
winty said:
I think our biggest weakness is a lack of a small defender who can negate a good leading small forward. Over the last few years we've had players like Brad Johnson, Russell Robertson and Mark Williams kick bags against us. Our key defenders in Scarlett, Harley and Egan are superb, and Milburn and Mackie are excellent in rebounding off the half back line, but we don't really have a defender who can properly negate a small leading forward.

Hunt is OK, but in the finals he tended to struggle against the likes of Edwards, Rusling and Ebert. Luckily for him the rest of the defenders did their job admirably, and Ebert was rather inaccurate on grand final day. I have a feeling more and more opposition coaches will try and isolate Hunt's opponent this season for just this reason.
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What about DJ or Rookey?, as well as Hunt
 

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Got to be Ottens - last year in the PF whenever he took a spell Collingwood came back. Blake is ok, but Ottens is a premiership ruckman in every sense of the word.

Without doubt, the best trade we ever made.
 
Jim Boy said:
Got to be Ottens - last year in the PF whenever he took a spell Collingwood came back. Blake is ok, but Ottens is a premiership ruckman in every sense of the word.

Without doubt, the best trade we ever made.
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Some bloke who played on a wing for Hawthorn??? ;););) Gary something...
Don't know what happened to him... not strictly speaking a trade

Weak links?
Would think Mooney - purely because of his history with missing games. After him there's not too many targets. & Mark Blake
 
I agree we probably need a small defender; Hunt is good but not as capable as any of our other major defenders. Ruck not so much; sure if Ottens got injured we wouldn't be as strong, but we would still have a very strong midfield capable of winning the ball away in clearences against anything but the strongest opposition.

I think we would be okay if Mooney went down. We wouldn't be as strong, but Ottens could still play up forward if worst came to worst, and Chapman/Johnson could take turns being the lead mark as they have done so in the past.
 
winty said:
I think our biggest weakness is a lack of a small defender who can negate a good leading small forward. Over the last few years we've had players like Brad Johnson, Russell Robertson and Mark Williams kick bags against us. Our key defenders in Scarlett, Harley and Egan are superb, and Milburn and Mackie are excellent in rebounding off the half back line, but we don't really have a defender who can properly negate a small leading forward.

Hunt is OK, but in the finals he tended to struggle against the likes of Edwards, Rusling and Ebert. Luckily for him the rest of the defenders did their job admirably, and Ebert was rather inaccurate on grand final day. I have a feeling more and more opposition coaches will try and isolate Hunt's opponent this season for just this reason.
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Mackie be thy name!! He's also got the bonus of being about 193cm tall, so he can play on those athletic types (ie. Franklin).

I personally don't think the backline has any problems due to the flexible nature of it. It certainly seems that there's a continuing trend here though in Ottens and Mooney being the most important. I agree wholeheartedly that they are the most important and if we lost them we'd be a much weaker team because of it. But let's keep in mind that we need to be 20 goals weaker in order for anyone to beat us :D
 
Obviously the strength of our team is our evenness - we don't have any truly 'weak' spots, although as with any team, injuries will expose some. If Ottens goes down for an extended stretch of time then I think our rucks will be exposed to an extent. Blakey looks to be improving all the time but he is still raw, and Trent West is an unknown in my books. I haven't seen anything from him thus far to tell me he is ready.

Our forward line is not the weakness some think it is - Moons, SJ and Hawkins with some game time in him is a formidable combo, not to mention blokes like Chappy and Jr who can pinch hit very successfully. Then we have Gamble, who has shown some very good signs, waiting in the wings. I think we have plenty of depth there.
 

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