‘Federal opposition frontbencher Andrew Leigh’, lol
The Guardian is such a garbage publication
The Guardian is such a garbage publication
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It may well be done out of altruism; even so it’s great publicity for the company.
They booked a $40.5m profit over the same period so they can afford the repayment
The subsidy is before tax so they will get a break on that, plus the good PR, plus they avoid the inevitable ATO audit
Probably a good deal for them
Great stuff Nick; now for that matter of mind altering substances entering the country.
Nick Scali to return $3.6m in jobkeeper payments after announcing record sales and profit
The company considered the wage subsidies received in the second half of 2020 ‘and decided to refund this amount’www.theguardian.com
What's this? A private company that actually has some sense of ethics and the public good? I'm quite taken aback, actually.
That's not quite a factual statement ie. They joined the communist party when it was proudly Stalinist. They could not have been members without being Stalinist.
People I've known for nearly all my adult life are members of the Liberal Party and they aren't climate change deniers, flat earthers or Supremacists who reckon they'll go to heaven for a few thousand years, and then come back down to earth and inherit all the wealth and riches from the non-supremacists and the non-supremacist's offspring will be their slaves. They find the locking up of children in detention centers abhorrent as the do the rorts, lies and corruption that is rife within the "modern" Liberal party.
There were many people who were Communists and had joined the Australian Communist Party who have now sadly passed away, but they did not know how evil that bastard Stalin was. My sister-in-law's late father was a member of the Communists Party but he and many of his friends left that organisation when they saw Stalin's daughter's wedding gown which was made out of the finest silks and held together with gold thread - I kid you not! Others still, left the party when Stalin's atrocities were exposed by those who had travelled to the USSR or had friends and relatives over there, only to rejoin the Party when Khrushchev denounced Stalin. There were others of course, who remained avowed Communists right the way through and only saw Stalin as an impediment to the cause - just like those who remain Liberal Party members even after John Howard's war crimes and Abbott, and Morrison.
People in those days were idealists and committed to causes, traits that seem to be disparaged these days in the pursuit of filthy lucre and the wholesale acceptance of the law-of the-jungle as a way of living.
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Paid a decent sized dividend and and they still keep the other half of the JobKeeper payments too
So Michael McCormack says, in relation to climate change policy that he is not concerned about what might happen in 30 years' time.
Stupid pr***. Absolutely disgusting attitude from a politician who is supposed to serve thus country and its people.
Stupid pr***. Absolutely disgusting attitude from a politician who is supposed to serve thus country and its people.
Realistically he is only expressing the private views of a large proportion of the population
Surveys and polling consistently show a big majority of Australians say all the right things about climate change. 80% think we are already experiencing the impacts, 82% link bushfires to climate change, 83% want a phase-out of coal, 68% want net zero emissions by 2050, 65% want a tax on fossil fuel exports.
The problem is, they don’t vote for it.
Where the rubber hits the road, people always prioritise other more immediate challenges and concerns over climate change.
100% agree with this.
Which brings us to the misinformation and disinformation climate fostered by the Liberal Party, National Party and the Conservative Press.
We live in a post fact world and people like Kelly, McCormack, Taylor, Wilson, Christensen and Co. constantly sprout conspiracy theories and outright fantasy to obfuscate all discussion and debate and Morrison stands to the side and watches on silently while they do it because it has short term benefits for him.
Australia has to move past this.
Don’t really understand your logic here. The fact that ~80% of people agree on all the major tenets of climate change is evidence enough that any attempt at disinformation is an irrelevancy.
We have effectively reached community consensus on the problems and solutions. The majority of people just don’t have the appetite for the costs involved in fixing things.
The cost of doing something is only less than the cost of doing nothing if you can get voters to take an intergenerational perspective, which is historically pretty difficult
Personally I don’t believe it’s possible to get a critical mass of voters to seriously value any social benefits that lie primarily beyond their own lifetimes.
Interesting conclusion.
If ~80% of people agree on climate change why doesn't Australia have a climate policy? An emissions policy? Why doesn't Australia have an energy policy?
If the majority of people "just don’t have the appetite for the costs involved in fixing things" then we have not reached a consensus on anything.
And the simple statement that "just don’t have the appetite for the costs involved in fixing things" is filled with its own disinformation. There are people who will argue that transitioning to new energy will create new jobs, will create new opportunities, will create new efficiencies and might actually lower the cost of energy long term.
We do not what the cost is because the government has no policy and has done no work on it other than to fill The Australian public with the message that it is "too expensive" which is not a statement of fact. It is disinformation.
People agree (or mostly agree) on facts, they just don’t agree on priorities
Nobody knows what the exact cost is because any estimate is based on too many unknowns
Thus the statement ‘we can’t afford to’ or ‘we can’t afford not to’ is implicitly a statement of one’s priorities, which are subjective
We are no longer in the realm of facts and disinformation, we are in the realm of personal philosophy
Most, if not all, of the State Govts have these policies in place, both Labor and Liberal, and have had for several years. It really is just the Federal LNP which is being recalcitrant.
The problem isn't due to any lack of buy-in from the public, it's almost entirely due to the Federal LNP being influenced to an unhealthy degree by the fossil fuel industry. Remember, our PM is the one who brought a lump of coal into Parliament, carefully covered in laquer so he didn't get his hands dirty.
I think you are misunderstanding me
Polls consistently show ~80% of people believe climate scientists who say we’re in deep s**t
On the other hand only 21% of voters at the 2019 election listed the environment/climate change as the most important issue in deciding their vote
The gap between the two is not about the facts or science - it’s about priorities. And that is a matter of personal philosophy, which is much harder to change
I agree. We also have big business 100% committed, we have huge parts of the mining industry 100% committed.
Yet still we cannot implement a coherent and coordinated climate change policy at Federal level.
And the whole time the Liberal party and the conservative media work incessantly to obfuscate the issues and ensure it does not happen.
I 100% disagree with the bolded. The gap is not about priorities. The gap is about propaganda and dis/misinformation.
Britain has Boris - populist conservative Tory - and the UK is moving forward with action on climate change.
Is the difference between the UK and Australia our different priorities or is the difference between the UK and Australia different messaging?
propaganda and dis/misinformation about what? The polling shows that people agree on the science of climate change, they agree on how it affects us, they agree on what steps are necessary to stop it. The debate is over, bar a few nutters on the fringe
Where it falls down is when people walk into a polling booth and they decide jobs or education or crime or tax cuts are more important to them personally - and of course the major parties are going to respond to that
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink
Labor really need to hammer the dangers of climate change at the next election.
The voters need to know the ALP will pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, crush any industry, destroy countless jobs etc to ensure the survival of the planet.
The voters need to know the ALP will pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, crush any industry, destroy countless jobs etc to ensure the survival of the planet.
Where it falls down is The Australian public is bombarded with constant misinformation and disinformation from sitting members in the Liberal Party and National party to protect the interests of their sponsors.
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theconversation.com
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These people in coal seats need to wake up and vote for someone who has a plan for them after thermal coal inevitably becomes unmarketable. As opposed to sticking their heads in the sand and pretending thermal coal jobs are going to be 'part of the mix' forever. By 2035 you won't be able to give thermal coal away.
You seem to be missing the fact that the polling indicates that these sorts of misinformation campaigns are ineffective
The task of climate change advocates is no longer to combat misinformation, it’s to convince people who believe the science to change their political priorities
‘telling the truth harder’ doesn’t work
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