Genesis

[don vito of fitzroy]

I have been listening to them recently but I've mostly been listening to the post-Peter Gabriel stuff, when Phil Collins made them a pop act. "Follow You, Follow Me", "Abacab" and "Turn It On Again" are probably my faves from the poppy Genesis and "Jesus He Knows Me" has a funny clip.

I've only heard probably three or four Peter Gabriel-era songs. "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" isn't a bad song but I find the chorus annoying. It was in this era that Genesis got most of their critical acclaim but which songs are worth listening? Watcher of the Skies? Supper's Ready?

 

[xamol]

Love the band post Gabriel. Saw Phil Collins back in '89. Great, great concert. They copped it pre Collins. More accolades after.

 

[don vito of fitzroy]

There's plenty of live stuff on YouTube but I've only seen some of it. I also listened to Watcher of the Skies today and it's pretty good. If I was some electro/doof-doof producer, I probably would have used the keyboards or the bass line in the song. With all seriousness, Rutherford's bass work is excellent and it also shows that Collins is a really good drummer.

Before Collins, they were nothing but Phil joined on the drums and Steve Hackett joined on guitar. Critics loved the albums with Hackett on guitar (1970-76) but as we all know, Collins on vocals brought Genesis commerical success. The thing that interests me is that despite Collins' solo work, Gabriel's solo songs and Genesis' album sales, I don't think Genesis were big in Oz. Even on Gold FM and Triple M in Melbourne, I would have only heard "Invisible Touch", "Follow You, Follow Me" and "Land of Confusion". I might have heard "Abacab" once or twice on radio.

 

[bunsen burner]

but which songs are worth listening?

None. They suck bawls. Phil Collins sucks bawls. Peter Gabriel sucks bawls. Mike and the Mechanics especially suck bawls. They are just a big bunch of bawl suckers. Tea baggers the lot of em.

 

[smasha]

Gabriel era Genesis probably the best music on the planet.


Nothing touches 70s prog rock.


My fav Gabriel era Genesis album is The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.

I have 2 cd copies and the Vinyl double album which I just about wore out.


For post Gabriel,A Trick Of The Tail is a brilliant slab of vinyl.

Get into prog mate.

You'll never go backwards again.


P.S. if you want the Genesis sound but something recent,check out Swedish band Unifaun.


They write their own tunes but the sound is unmistakable Genesis and their music stands up alongside Genesis's material.



Anyone who reckons the pop era Genesis is better needs to get their ears cleaned out-maybe prog metal is for you if you are tone deaf and have NFI about music in general.

If you like your prog symphonic like me,check out alot of the Italian bands that were numerous in the 70s.

Premiata Forneria Marconi,Museo Rosenbach,Area,Le Orme,Alphataurus,Goblin.

Brilliant stuff even though the lyrics are Italian.

 

[smasha]

Love the band post Gabriel. Saw Phil Collins back in '89. Great, great concert. They copped it pre Collins. More accolades after.

I went to the Invisible Touch tour at Olympic Park in the mid 80s.


The dopey crowd all went ape droppings when they played the pop hits and all the die hards went crazy when they did their big old proggy numbers.

In The Cage and Dance On a Volcano=**** yeah!!!!!!

 

[smasha]

There's plenty of live stuff on YouTube but I've only seen some of it. I also listened to Watcher of the Skies today and it's pretty good. If I was some electro/doof-doof producer, I probably would have used the keyboards or the bass line in the song. With all seriousness, Rutherford's bass work is excellent and it also shows that Collins is a really good drummer.

Before Collins, they were nothing but Phil joined on the drums and Steve Hackett joined on guitar. Critics loved the albums with Hackett on guitar (1970-76) but as we all know, Collins on vocals brought Genesis commerical success. The thing that interests me is that despite Collins' solo work, Gabriel's solo songs and Genesis' album sales, I don't think Genesis were big in Oz. Even on Gold FM and Triple M in Melbourne, I would have only heard "Invisible Touch", "Follow You, Follow Me" and "Land of Confusion". I might have heard "Abacab" once or twice on radio.

Australia is the only country on the planet that despises Genesis.

They are fecking huuuuge in the US,UK,STH America and Europe.

Mention the band Genesis here and you get a load of vitriol same with Jethro Tull.

There are many Genesis tribute bands selling out venues overseas.

I was thinking of starting a 70s prog tribute band here doing Yes,Genesis,Crimson covers but noone is ever interested because a),there is no market here because most people here have mud ears /and or pull themselves to tired old metal.

Look ,I love alot of metal but to me it's 2 dimensional compared to prog rock,from the 70s and early 80s.

Plus to get a keyboardist with classical training is rarer than hens teeth.


It's way easier to play metal,because metal guitarists are like seagulls or sparrows.

They are everywhere so it's too easy to start a metal band.


It's takes a rare breed of guitarist to play prog.


Makes you ****in laugh when people wet themselves over b grade bands like Muse then bag masters like Genesis in the same sentence.

Funny people.

 

[Schism]

 

[mr_cellotape]

I'm convinced smasha isn't even an actual poster. Someone has made an elaborate bot that tracks prog-related threads and adds sycophantic nonsense to them.

 

[smasha]

I'd get Phideaux's album Number 7 if you love quality prog also.

Absolute classic.


Turn off all the lights,wait till sunset to watch the beautiful sky,light some candles and incense,lie on a big sofa and play this album.

 

[Saint KFC]

I'm convinced smasha isn't even an actual poster. Someone has made an elaborate bot that tracks prog-related threads and adds sycophantic nonsense to them.

Summed it up perfectly. How he hasn't had his access restricted yet it is a mystery itself, much like his ignorant views on all things rock and metal.

 

[don vito of fitzroy]

Australia is the only country on the planet that despises Genesis.

They are fecking huuuuge in the US,UK,STH America and Europe.

Mention the band Genesis here and you get a load of vitriol same with Jethro Tull.

There are many Genesis tribute bands selling out venues overseas.

I was thinking of starting a 70s prog tribute band here doing Yes,Genesis,Crimson covers but noone is ever interested because a),there is no market here because most people here have mud ears /and or pull themselves to tired old metal.

Look ,I love alot of metal but to me it's 2 dimensional compared to prog rock,from the 70s and early 80s.

Plus to get a keyboardist with classical training is rarer than hens teeth.


It's way easier to play metal,because metal guitarists are like seagulls or sparrows.

They are everywhere so it's too easy to start a metal band.


It's takes a rare breed of guitarist to play prog.


Makes you ****in laugh when people wet themselves over b grade bands like Muse then bag masters like Genesis in the same sentence.

Funny people.

I don't listen to progressive rock but Genesis stand out in terms of interest due to the success of some their members as solo artists.

It seems that prog rock isn't popular amongst BigFooty posters. Having said that, I can't see how anyone could start a prog rock band in modern times anyway. It seems to be something that belongs in the 70s and it's something that wouldn't fit into the new millenium.

I went to the Esplanade Hotel and there was a psychedelic rock band performing (different genre but there's the usage of keyboards). All the people watching were people who went to my high school, waiting to watch a friend's grunge band.

 

[Schism]

I don't listen to progressive rock but Genesis stand out in terms of interest due to the success of some their members as solo artists.

It seems that prog rock isn't popular amongst BigFooty posters. Having said that, I can't see how anyone could start a prog rock band in modern times anyway. It seems to be something that belongs in the 70s and it's something that wouldn't fit into the new millenium.

I went to the Esplanade Hotel and there was a psychedelic rock band performing (different genre but there's the usage of keyboards). All the people watching were people who went to my high school, waiting to watch a friend's grunge band.

There is a million prog rock bands around.Try Riverside or Porcupine Tree,or even Tool or Dream Theater for something a tad heavier

 

[don vito of fitzroy]

Tool is classfied as prog rock? I thought they were more of an industrial rock band.

 

[Schism]

Tool is classfied as prog rock? I thought they were more of an industrial rock band.

Some people call them progressive metal,some call them progressive rock.I guess they blur the lines between the two.I've never heard them described as Industrial

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[mark73]

Australia is the only country on the planet that despises Genesis.

They are fecking huuuuge in the US,UK,STH America and Europe.

Mention the band Genesis here and you get a load of vitriol same with Jethro Tull.

There are many Genesis tribute bands selling out venues overseas.

I was thinking of starting a 70s prog tribute band here doing Yes,Genesis,Crimson covers but noone is ever interested because a),there is no market here because most people here have mud ears /and or pull themselves to tired old metal.

Look ,I love alot of metal but to me it's 2 dimensional compared to prog rock,from the 70s and early 80s.

Plus to get a keyboardist with classical training is rarer than hens teeth.


It's way easier to play metal,because metal guitarists are like seagulls or sparrows.

They are everywhere so it's too easy to start a metal band.


It's takes a rare breed of guitarist to play prog.


Makes you ****in laugh when people wet themselves over b grade bands like Muse then bag masters like Genesis in the same sentence.

Funny people.

Not exactly, especially the US. Turn It On Again was their first real big hit in America. After that the Sepps went a bit mad on Genesis and they became a bit more poppy and ditched the progressive rock angle although it was probably going to happen with Collins anyway.

It's not that people don't like the Gabriel influenced Genesis, it's just that at the time you had other prog rock bands like Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Judas Priest, King Crimson and Jethro Tull getting the bigger headlines.

 

[Ry009]

I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece.

It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument.

In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting.

Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock.

Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds.

 

[Adrian Shelton]

Now youve written that take back your video tapes!!!!!

 

[don vito of fitzroy]

Some people call them progressive metal,some call them progressive rock.I guess they blur the lines between the two.I've never heard them described as Industrial

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Prog metal would be more appropriate.

As for Genesis's lyrics, I never understood the point of the chorus for "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)". The song about a guy who mows lawns but where do the clothes come in to it? Before I heard the lyrics, I thought the song would be about either a pervert or cross-dressing.

The lyrics of "Jesus He Knows Me" were well-written and should be rated amongst their best. Collins is on the ball where those televangelists are concerned. Great satire.