Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

2025 AFL Draft and Trade Dates:​

Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

 

[CatRiot]

Any good speedy outside midfielders with good footskills that we can get with our 2nd pick?

 

[Tony Barber]

Average wage in Australia is $105k pa - that means there are a lot of people out there on a lot less than that to make $105k the average - particularly considering minimum full-time wage is something like $50k.

If they weren't kicking a footy around, at 19 years old, they'd be living at home, going to uni (and then hoping to get a grad job paying likely less than average wage - depending), learning a trade, or back-packing through Europe on a shoestring budget. They wouldn't be looking to buy property anyway.

In the grand scheme of things, I doubt they're complaining by hanging on to an AFL list - even as rookies.

Mate, you can join the Army. Not pay for food, electricity, gas, water, get 17% super and take home $86k on the most basic job.

Add that up.

 

[Tony Barber]

Well, Stevens was out of contract so he's dropped nothing

While KM-F has a contract for next year and that will still be paid out to him in 2026; it hasn't simply been ripped up and paid out this year

Just need to look at other clubs around the league who've delisted senior listed players that have "retired" with a year to go on their contracts, but to balance out the clubs TPP, the player will be delisted before being re-selected via the rookie draft to allow their final year of salary payments to fall in the correct year - while also opening up a senior list spot. That's exactly what's happened with the likes of

2023
Sydney - Sam Reid
GWS - Adam Kennedy

2022
GWS - Phil Davis
Adelaide - Paul Seedsman

2020
Adelaide - Bryce Gibbs

Proof on this please.

 

[cats_09]

Proof on this please.

Basic knowledge of how things work

 

[Tony Barber]

Basic knowledge of how things work

That stacks up.

 

[cats_09]

That stacks up.

Here you go then since you conveniently ignored it on the previous post


Just need to look at other clubs around the league who've delisted senior listed players that have "retired" with a year to go on their contracts, but to balance out the clubs TPP, the player will be delisted before being re-selected via the rookie draft to allow their final year of salary payments to fall in the correct year - while also opening up a senior list spot. That's exactly what's happened with the likes of

2023
Sydney - Sam Reid
GWS - Adam Kennedy

2022
GWS - Phil Davis
Adelaide - Paul Seedsman

2020
Adelaide - Bryce Gibbs

 

[Tony Barber]

Here you go then since you conveniently ignored it on the previous post


Just need to look at other clubs around the league who've delisted senior listed players that have "retired" with a year to go on their contracts, but to balance out the clubs TPP, the player will be delisted before being re-selected via the rookie draft to allow their final year of salary payments to fall in the correct year - while also opening up a senior list spot. That's exactly what's happened with the likes of

2023
Sydney - Sam Reid
GWS - Adam Kennedy

2022
GWS - Phil Davis
Adelaide - Paul Seedsman

2020
Adelaide - Bryce Gibbs

I didn't ignore it. I read it.
I asked for proof.

 

[jnrburger]

Mate, you can join the Army. Not pay for food, electricity, gas, water, get 17% super and take home $86k on the most basic job.

Add that up.

Yeah - but you've got to join the army to get it - and there are a number of trade-offs in that decision.

(Strayed off topic a little bit!)

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yes/No

If someone else picked up KM-F we'd have to fork out the difference between his rookie salary at this new club and the 2nd year salary owed to him as a national drafted player - I remember that issue being raised back when we delisted Oscar Brownless & Ryan Abbott

St Kilda picked up Abbott as a DFA, so not sure what happened in regards to his salary but we were able to re-draft Brownless and didn't take a hit, but it was mentioned it another club drafted them that they'd only need to offer a rookie contract and we'd need to pay the difference with what was owed

Not sure if things have changed on that front

Yeah true

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I didn't ignore it. I read it.
I asked for proof.

This is a waste of everyone's time tony. Let's just forget it

 

[jnrburger]

Here you go then since you conveniently ignored it on the previous post


Just need to look at other clubs around the league who've delisted senior listed players that have "retired" with a year to go on their contracts, but to balance out the clubs TPP, the player will be delisted before being re-selected via the rookie draft to allow their final year of salary payments to fall in the correct year - while also opening up a senior list spot. That's exactly what's happened with the likes of

2023
Sydney - Sam Reid
GWS - Adam Kennedy

2022
GWS - Phil Davis
Adelaide - Paul Seedsman

2020
Adelaide - Bryce Gibbs

Just building on this - the existing contract isn't torn up and paid out. Two things can happen - he nominates for national draft, and then if a club picks him up on the senior list, they pick up his second contract year and we don't have to pay it. If nobody drafts him in the national draft, then he goes to our rookie list under our pre-commitment, and we still pay him what he was owed under his second year of the original contract. If we didn't commit to putting him on the rookie list, then we would have to pay him out once all player movement windows are completed and before start of next season. (Termination provisions are under clause 11 of the CBA).

Drafted players (main list) have regulated contract values assigned in the CBA for first 2 or 3 years (depending on how high they were drafted). In contrast, rookies have minimums but not maximums - and are on one year deals - so there is flexibility for clubs to pay a rookie higher (if they want) subject to the overall salary cap constraints for the amount over the minimum contract which is then included in our cap.

So assuming things go to plan, KMF gets re-rookied by us - and then we pay him his wages according to the original senior list contract, but $105k of that is excluded out of our salary cap. The difference between his 2025 first year value of $115k, and the 2026 season min rookie contract of $105k is pretty nominal - he still gets the extra $10k, and that component still lands in under our cap. No big deal either way, and we open a list spot for use in the draft.

Just as an aside, CAT B rookie payments also have minimum contract values but no maximums, but all football payments for CAT B players are outside the salary cap regardless.

 

[foxdog50]

Any good speedy outside midfielders with good footskills that we can get with our 2nd pick?

I personally think our 2nd pick will be Mellor. As we only have 2 picks in the draft

 

[foxdog50]

I also think Stevens will get picked up from another club before Geelong

 

[year of the cat]

Wouldn’t be averse to bidding on Addinsall with pick 19. Like the cut of his jib.

 

[Mr Meow]

What does it mean for Stevens and Matofai-Forbes to be delisted from the senior list but re-selected via the rookie draft?

Think of it like returning a book to the library and then taking it out again soon after.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Twomey said on gettable that Holmes could slip all the way to a rookie pick.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Think of it like returning a book to the library and then taking it out again soon after.

Or returning the hardback and taking it out as a paperback?

How is training structured? The rookies and young draftees on the main list would mostly play VFL. Would they train with the senior squad or the VFL team? Am I right in thinking rookies can be selected for the senior team at any time?

 

[Tony Barber]

Yeah - but you've got to join the army to get it - and there are a number of trade-offs in that decision.

(Strayed off topic a little bit!)

There actually aren't trade offs. Been there, done that.
It's easy now. I went to a recruit session last year. Its a piece of piss.

 

[patience]

Yeah - but you've got to join the army to get it - and there are a number of trade-offs in that decision.

(Strayed off topic a little bit!)

Free health and dental, education.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Free health and dental, education.

The education part there seems not that easy. I think uni degrees are limited to officers. I also had someone work for me once who was in comms and instrumentation in the navy but somehow didn't walk out ticketed for anything.

 

[Tony Barber]

The education part there seems not that easy. I think uni degrees are limited to officers. I also had someone work for me once who was in comms and instrumentation in the navy but somehow didn't walk out ticketed for anything.

There was a lack of 'ticketed' degrees.
It's all changed. If you go for a higher level and leave early they actually charge you. Just like hecs.

But yes, the degrees are still done through adfa.

But let's not be stupid. It's easy to earn $100k if you want it.

And hey, ever hang out of the back of a plane on a harness taking photos?
Ever been skinny dipping for months straight with females, getting back to barracks at 6 am and then going for a run at 7:15?

You've never lived.

 

[Mr Meow]

There was a lack of 'ticketed' degrees.
It's all changed. If you go for a higher level and leave early they actually charge you. Just like hecs.

But yes, the degrees are still done through adfa.

But let's not be stupid. It's easy to earn $100k if you want it.

And hey, ever hang out of the back of a plane on a harness taking photos?
Ever been skinny dipping for months straight with females, getting back to barracks at 6 am and then going for a run at 7:15?

You've never lived.

CTTF has done all of those things in the past year, just for leisure.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

CTTF has done all of those things in the past year, just for leisure.

I've never been skinny dipping for months straight. Sounds like you'd get diptheria after 72hrs in the water

 

[MacStradbroke]

There was a lack of 'ticketed' degrees.
It's all changed. If you go for a higher level and leave early they actually charge you. Just like hecs.

But yes, the degrees are still done through adfa.

But let's not be stupid. It's easy to earn $100k if you want it.

And hey, ever hang out of the back of a plane on a harness taking photos?
Ever been skinny dipping for months straight with females, getting back to barracks at 6 am and then going for a run at 7:15?

You've never lived.

 

[cats_09]

Wouldn’t be averse to bidding on Addinsall with pick 19. Like the cut of his jib.