I hate to say it, but Goddard will not be a huge loss. His body language during a game is terrible, he gets fired up, but he often takes it out on his teammates and the umps. Great player, but needs to sort out his attitude.
... A foreign poster suggested he will not be a huge loss. This guy is an ignorant fool or a troll.
I considered banning him, but realised that you cannot go around banning posters for their obvious lack of intelligence. Just accept that life has already dealt him a far worse punishment than I could ever impose on him.
I'm allowed to have an opinion
As you can see, I am a "bigfooty newbie" so maybe I'm a little ignorant about how forums are supposed to work. Nevertheless, I have a problem with all of this threatened banning and blacklisting etc. I don't know why a guy should be accused of trolling for daring to say that he doesn't think Goddard will be a big loss. You can see from my earlier post how much I disagree with the statement but I always find that such statements bring out very enjoyable hearts-on-the-sleeves responses from Saints supporters.
Also, if you remember a couple of weeks back, we had Danielz (I think) claiming that the sky was falling in and the Saints were crap. I don't remember anyone calling him a troll, presumably because he was a Saints fan (sure, he copped it, but no one spoke about banning him, I'm pretty sure). So, if we are judging someone's opinion on the basis of the club they barrack for, frankly I find that puerile.
So if someone comes onto our board and says something stupid, can we just call him stupid and not threaten to ban him?
The club boards are moderated in a different way to the main football boards.
This board is meant for St Kilda supporters to discuss St Kilda related issues. Opposition supporters are welcome to post here but they have to respect the views and opinions of our supporters. If they don't, they are more than welcome to post on the main board or bay 13.
Even if what he said wasn't that bad, the problem with it is that our own supporters will respond and suddenly it turns into a slanging match which is precisely what we don't need on this board.
Thanks Sainter.
Just to sort things out. This forum is not a clone of Saintsational, nor is it a smaller version of the main board here at Big Footy.
Check out the post / thread entitled "Visitors" this was posted so that there would be communication of what this board is about.
I read almost every post posted on this board.
I have been doing so for at least 3 years.
In that time there have been numerous trolls and numerous junk threads.
When I became a moderator, it gave me the power to clean up this board.
Sainter and I have made the board cleaner. We have independantly discovered that it is better to be proactive, rather than let things go.
Things become more complex when you allow some poster to post stuff that another poster gets pinged for. People become aggrieved and private messages flow back and forth. So we try to be fair and consistent.
We have kept a pretty hard line for foreign posters.
They simply are not welcome to troll here.
Saints posters are welcome here. Even if what they are posting irritates or offends me. As long as I believe their heart is in the right place, they are welcome. I get narky sometimes because a poster with a message he needs heard will post it in several threads, rather than keeping it in one or two.
Some Saint posters push the bubble with respect to swearing and personal insults. These are usually in response to foreign posters (non-Saints).
I have found that being lenient and allowing a slanging match to occur does little for the decorum of the board.
So I tend to clean up the swearing Saint, and warn the visitor to be more respectful.
My threat of banning (above) was part of a very real process I practice.
Each time a foreign poster posts something contrary here, I try and decide whether the poster is genuine or a troll. A troll has his post deleted and is sent a warning or an infraction notice (judgement call). A contrary post with some genuine merit is retained. Sometimes these can rally the Saints fans, sometimes they might even be right.
There is a different standard for Sainters as there is for other club supporters.
But the same applies on every other club board here - how different the standard is dependant on the individual club board's moderators.