- May 5, 2014
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I believe to determine what Pick 5 would need for a trade, we should look for equivalent trades made in prior years that come close to the Pick value:
- 2016: Dion Prestia (24yo) to Richmond for Pick 6 (and swap of 2nds)
- 2017: Charlie Cameron (23yo) to Brisbane for Pick 12 (what a bloody steal)
- 2017: Lachie Weller (22yo) (plus 3rd rounder) to Gold Coast for Pick 2
- 2018: Lachie Neale (25yo) to Brisbane for Pick 6 (plus 2nd rounder & swap of 3rds)
- 2020: Adam Saad (25yo) to Carlton for Pick 8 (plus couple of later picks swapped).
Can't remember any other recent examples, and of course, each deal was squeezed one way or the other due to circumstances (i.e. Dion wanted to leave GCS, Weller was vocal about joining GCS so they were desperate to do the deal, Saad wanted to leave badly etc.).
However, there are some trends for each of them:
- 25yo or younger;
- Most were either elite in one or two areas, or showed they were close to tipping into elite territory for certain categories (speed, disposals, etc.). Most were hitting or verging on elite status, but were still developing;
- Most were between 50 - 100 games;
- Most were still desired by their club and who's hands were forced (except maybe Weller, where Freo bent GCS over a barrel);
- Most seemed to fill a role of either high accumulator midfielder or high impact/high speed foward/backman.
I would imagine, for Pick 5, you would need to entertain a similar type of profile.
There are only two factors I can see, that may change:
- [Need for experience] GCS have cited a need for experience & leadership which would push the desired age closer to 25, rather than 21. So that may push the age up to 24-26?
- [Difficulty Bargaining] GCS have low bargaining power as players are resistant to moving up there and clubs know it. They will likely have to pay overs as compared to a Melbourne club (see Weller for example).
Pulling some random players from those age ranges who would fit that quota (obviously ignoring contract status, desire to move) to get an idea for player profile: Toby McLean, Matt Crouch, Brayden Maynard, Charlie Curnow, Ben Keays. It's hard - trying to find players on the verge, but not completely elite (moreso, as with experience, less potential and more proven talent - so might be giving too valuable players).
Again, names above are not indicitative of likely transfers. More trying to carve a picture/feel of what it COULD look like. Up to you guys to figure out what trade from the profile above would be realistic.
- 2016: Dion Prestia (24yo) to Richmond for Pick 6 (and swap of 2nds)
- 2017: Charlie Cameron (23yo) to Brisbane for Pick 12 (what a bloody steal)
- 2017: Lachie Weller (22yo) (plus 3rd rounder) to Gold Coast for Pick 2
- 2018: Lachie Neale (25yo) to Brisbane for Pick 6 (plus 2nd rounder & swap of 3rds)
- 2020: Adam Saad (25yo) to Carlton for Pick 8 (plus couple of later picks swapped).
Can't remember any other recent examples, and of course, each deal was squeezed one way or the other due to circumstances (i.e. Dion wanted to leave GCS, Weller was vocal about joining GCS so they were desperate to do the deal, Saad wanted to leave badly etc.).
However, there are some trends for each of them:
- 25yo or younger;
- Most were either elite in one or two areas, or showed they were close to tipping into elite territory for certain categories (speed, disposals, etc.). Most were hitting or verging on elite status, but were still developing;
- Most were between 50 - 100 games;
- Most were still desired by their club and who's hands were forced (except maybe Weller, where Freo bent GCS over a barrel);
- Most seemed to fill a role of either high accumulator midfielder or high impact/high speed foward/backman.
I would imagine, for Pick 5, you would need to entertain a similar type of profile.
There are only two factors I can see, that may change:
- [Need for experience] GCS have cited a need for experience & leadership which would push the desired age closer to 25, rather than 21. So that may push the age up to 24-26?
- [Difficulty Bargaining] GCS have low bargaining power as players are resistant to moving up there and clubs know it. They will likely have to pay overs as compared to a Melbourne club (see Weller for example).
Pulling some random players from those age ranges who would fit that quota (obviously ignoring contract status, desire to move) to get an idea for player profile: Toby McLean, Matt Crouch, Brayden Maynard, Charlie Curnow, Ben Keays. It's hard - trying to find players on the verge, but not completely elite (moreso, as with experience, less potential and more proven talent - so might be giving too valuable players).
Again, names above are not indicitative of likely transfers. More trying to carve a picture/feel of what it COULD look like. Up to you guys to figure out what trade from the profile above would be realistic.
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