Prediction Gold Coast Suns Best 22 for 2018

[17er]

Here's Michael Whiting's Best 22 published on afl.com.au

B: Kade Kolodjashnij, Steven May, Jesse Joyce
HB: Lachie Weller, Jack Leslie, Jarrod Harbrow
C: Alex Sexton, Jarryd Lyons, Pearce Hanley
HF: Aaron Young, Tom Lynch, Jack Martin
F: Ben Ainsworth, Peter Wright, Callum Ah Chee
Foll: Jarrod Witts, David Swallow, Aaron Hall
I/C: Jack Bowes, Touk Miller, Michael Barlow, Brayden Fiorini

I think an NFL style Depth Chart would be more beneficial

General defenders: Jarrod Harbrow, Pearce Hanley, Kade Kolodjashnij***, Jesse Joyce, Sean Lemmens***, Jack Scrimshaw, Mackenzie Willis, Connor Nutting
Key defenders: Steven May, Jack Leslie, Rory Thompson, Max Spencer, Josh Jaska
Midfielders: Lachie Weller, Touk Miller, Michael Barlow, Brayden Fiorini, Michael Rischitelli, Matt Rosa, Jack Bowes, Will Brodie, Alex Sexton, Nic Holman^, Jesse Lonergan, Josh Schoenfeld, Harrison Wigg, Charlie Ballard, Jacob Dawson, Jacob Heron
General forwards: Jack Martin*, Jarryd Lyons*, Ben Ainsworth, Callum Ah Chee, Aaron Young, Darcy Macpherson, Brad Scheer, Wil Powell
Key forwards: Tom Lynch, Sam Day, Peter Wright
Ruckmen: Jarrod Witts, Tom Nicholls, Brayden Crossley**

*Martin and Lyons could easily rotate through the midfield,
**Crossley likely to play forward and share ruck duties in NEAFL
***KK and Lemmens most likely to play forward
^Holman a speculative forward line prospect

 

[Scotty_222]

Here's Michael Whiting's Best 22 published on afl.com.au

B: Kade Kolodjashnij, Steven May, Jesse Joyce
HB: Lachie Weller, Jack Leslie, Jarrod Harbrow
C: Alex Sexton, Jarryd Lyons, Pearce Hanley
HF: Aaron Young, Tom Lynch, Jack Martin
F: Ben Ainsworth, Peter Wright, Callum Ah Chee
Foll: Jarrod Witts, David Swallow, Aaron Hall
I/C: Jack Bowes, Touk Miller, Michael Barlow, Brayden Fiorini

I think an NFL style Depth Chart would be more beneficial

General defenders: Jarrod Harbrow, Pearce Hanley, Kade Kolodjashnij***, Jesse Joyce, Sean Lemmens***, Jack Scrimshaw, Mackenzie Willis, Connor Nutting
Key defenders: Steven May, Jack Leslie, Rory Thompson, Max Spencer, Josh Jaska
Midfielders: Lachie Weller, Touk Miller, Michael Barlow, Brayden Fiorini, Michael Rischitelli, Matt Rosa, Jack Bowes, Will Brodie, Alex Sexton, Nic Holman^, Jesse Lonergan, Josh Schoenfeld, Harrison Wigg, Charlie Ballard, Jacob Dawson, Jacob Heron
General forwards: Jack Martin*, Jarryd Lyons*, Ben Ainsworth, Callum Ah Chee, Aaron Young, Darcy Macpherson, Brad Scheer, Wil Powell
Key forwards: Tom Lynch, Sam Day, Peter Wright
Ruckmen: Jarrod Witts, Tom Nicholls, Brayden Crossley**

*Martin and Lyons could easily rotate through the midfield,
**Crossley likely to play forward and share ruck duties in NEAFL
***KK and Lemmens most likely to play forward
^Holman a speculative forward line prospect

Lyons is out inside mid.

No way kk plays forward.

 

[17er]

Lyons is out inside mid.

No way kk plays forward.

Lyons lines up at half forward flank, which is the reason I'm naming him there, even though we know he's a midfielder.

I am suggesting KK play forward in the NEAFL. Kid's at the crossroads, with a lot more talent in the backline and a down 2017 season. I hope he plays with a helmet and gets back to his best form, but where exactly is that going to be because he's not setting the world on fire as a backpocket and we have about 12 halfback flankers on the list. If Sam Day was needed to go back, I could see KK playing third tall forward with his marking ability and skills.

 

[Scotty_222]

Lyons lines up at half forward flank, which is the reason I'm naming him there, even though we know he's a midfielder.

I am suggesting KK play forward in the NEAFL. Kid's at the crossroads, with a lot more talent in the backline and a down 2017 season. I hope he plays with a helmet and gets back to his best form, but where exactly is that going to be because he's not setting the world on fire as a backpocket and we have about 12 halfback flankers on the list. If Sam Day was needed to go back, I could see KK playing third tall forward with his marking ability and skills.

Disagree.

 

[17er]

Disagree.

Well, when Lyons get named at HFF every week, it is only logical to name there until Dew starts naming teams.

You might disagree about KK, but somebody has to play there for NEAFL so how about some suggestions?

 

[Scotty_222]

Well, when Lyons get named at HFF every week, it is only logical to name there until Dew starts naming teams.

You might disagree about KK, but somebody has to play there for NEAFL so how about some suggestions?

Who cares about the neafl team. I want the best picked in the firsts.
Someone has to fill the spot that gaz leaving has created. Hopefully swallow can become more of an accumulator

 

[17er]

Who cares about the neafl team. I want the best picked in the firsts.
Someone has to fill the spot that gaz leaving has created. Hopefully swallow can become more of an accumulator

I expect several players to contribute on that score. Lyons is one of them, Barlow another. Swallow can do it and so can Hall. Rischa might even return to vintage form , who knows. I don't see Dew as caring about uncontested possessions that loose players rack up. He'll be looking for 1%ers, tackling, intercepts, and contested possessions. Whatever his game plan is, it has to be an improvement on Eade's hit and miss management.

If KK made a successful transition to Half Forward in the NEAFL he could become an option for the firsts. I really like Kade and want to see him succeed, but I don't know that he makes the 22 if he plays like he did this year. That's all. I also expect to see Martin playing more in the middle now that he's achieved a level of toughness and durability.

 

[LynchysMob]

Playing your best half back as a forward in the NEAFL is bizarre.

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[Sunraysia]

Here's Michael Whiting's Best 22 published on afl.com.au

B: Kade Kolodjashnij, Steven May, Jesse Joyce
HB: Lachie Weller, Jack Leslie, Jarrod Harbrow
C: Alex Sexton, Jarryd Lyons, Pearce Hanley
HF: Aaron Young, Tom Lynch, Jack Martin
F: Ben Ainsworth, Peter Wright, Callum Ah Chee
Foll: Jarrod Witts, David Swallow, Aaron Hall
I/C: Jack Bowes, Touk Miller, Michael Barlow, Brayden Fiorini

I think an NFL style Depth Chart would be more beneficial

General defenders: Jarrod Harbrow, Pearce Hanley, Kade Kolodjashnij***, Jesse Joyce, Sean Lemmens***, Jack Scrimshaw, Mackenzie Willis, Connor Nutting
Key defenders: Steven May, Jack Leslie, Rory Thompson, Max Spencer, Josh Jaska
Midfielders: Lachie Weller, Touk Miller, Michael Barlow, Brayden Fiorini, Michael Rischitelli, Matt Rosa, Jack Bowes, Will Brodie, Alex Sexton, Nic Holman^, Jesse Lonergan, Josh Schoenfeld, Harrison Wigg, Charlie Ballard, Jacob Dawson, Jacob Heron
General forwards: Jack Martin*, Jarryd Lyons*, Ben Ainsworth, Callum Ah Chee, Aaron Young, Darcy Macpherson, Brad Scheer, Wil Powell
Key forwards: Tom Lynch, Sam Day, Peter Wright
Ruckmen: Jarrod Witts, Tom Nicholls, Brayden Crossley**

*Martin and Lyons could easily rotate through the midfield,
**Crossley likely to play forward and share ruck duties in NEAFL
***KK and Lemmens most likely to play forward
^Holman a speculative forward line prospect

Like the Depth chart idea.
Revising it - I've found we lack forwards and have hundred million mid- half backs !
Even the two general forwards named could easily be Mid (Ainsworth ) or Half back (Ah Chee)
Todays game isn't about specialist scoring anymore ...

General defenders: Jarrod Harbrow, Pearce Hanley, Kade Kolodjashnij, Jesse Joyce, Sean Lemmens, Jack Scrimshaw, Mackenzie Willis, Connor Nutting, Max Spencer, Harrison Wigg.
Key defenders: Steven May, Jack Leslie, Rory Thompson, Josh Jaska
Midfielders: Dave Swallow , Jarryd Lyons, Jack Martin, Lachie Weller, Aaron Hall , Touk Miller, Michael Barlow, Brayden Fiorini, Darcy MacPherson , Michael Rischitelli, Matt Rosa, Jack Bowes, Will Brodie, Brad Scheer, Alex Sexton, Aaron Young , Nic Holman, Jesse Lonergan, Charlie Ballard, Jacob Dawson, Jacob Heron, Josh Schoenfeld , Will Powell.
General forwards: Ben Ainsworth, Callum Ah Chee
Key forwards: Tom Lynch, Sam Day, Peter Wright
Ruckmen: Jarrod Witts, Tom Nicholls, Brayden Crossley.

 

[SunsBhoy]

When you look in depth at stats etc , one of dews biggest issues is to find clearance players , with gaz gone that’s 8 clearances on average gone next best swallow and Lyons with and average of 5 then a drop to Barlow with 3 , big issue , with how things stand we are going to be belted on first possession .


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[SunsBhoy]

Well, when Lyons get named at HFF every week, it is only logical to name there until Dew starts naming teams.

You might disagree about KK, but somebody has to play there for NEAFL so how about some suggestions?

Not sure why it’s logical to name Lyon in forward line , the guy is a bonafide midfielder , we are inundated with flanker types , the area we are going to struggle in this year is midfield and he is one of our best.


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[TheSunGod]

They’re just names on a piece of paper when we line them up in the traditional format.
Lyons is a mid who can play forward. KK may or may not make it back to his best with those concussion issues. Doesn’t mean much any more when they come out to play. The team boards they show to the players have positions like “Keeper”, “Sweeper 1”, “Hunter” etc.
The depth chart is what interests me. Our depth isn’t as bad as I first thought after looking at the above list but a lack of A+ stars in the midfield is a concern too.This is where Dew and his coaching staff will need to earn their money, and develop a superstar or two - don’t think Dewy has much of a choice other than to get more midfield time into players like Ainsworth, Ah Chee, Brodie, Bowes, Scheer and Martin. We need to find match winners. We might continue to get a few poundings from the better more mature midfields in the meantime.

 

[Mini GF]

Give me the 22 with the biggest heart muscles next season and I’ll be happy

 

[Fat Pizza]

Whiting's 22 is pretty much spot on. The worry is that there are not many blokes outside that 22, who look like they're ready to get in. We'll either need a very good run with injuries or some of the reserves will need to show massive improvement.

I can't see KK playing anywhere but defence.

 

[17er]

Whiting's 22 is pretty much spot on. The worry is that there are not many blokes outside that 22, who look like they're ready to get in. We'll either need a very good run with injuries or some of the reserves will need to show massive improvement.

I can't see KK playing anywhere but defence.

Everybody seems firm about KK playing in defence, but who plays forward if injuries mount up? Disagree if you feel that way, but at least make a suggestion!

As for players outside the 22, I think you are dead wrong. Thompson, Scrimshaw and Spencer provide depth in the backline. One of our key forwards could find themselves in the NEAFL if Dew decides against 3 tall forwards, although Lynch and Day have been good in combo previously and Wright is a great ruck-forward. Nicholls could come in for Witts or even beat him out in the pre-season, with Crossley a potential debutant this year. In the midfield, we have a good kind of selection headache for the coaches because if Rischa, Rosa, Brodie, Holman, Scheer, Schoenfeld, Lonergan and Wigg are playing good footy in the NEAFL then the competition for spots will be fierce.

The list is stronger than ever, despite losing Ablett. The rebuild is almost done and the team's potential is exciting.

 

[Fat Pizza]

Everybody seems firm about KK playing in defence, but who plays forward if injuries mount up? Disagree if you feel that way, but at least make a suggestion!

As for players outside the 22, I think you are dead wrong. Thompson, Scrimshaw and Spencer provide depth in the backline. One of our key forwards could find themselves in the NEAFL if Dew decides against 3 tall forwards, although Lynch and Day have been good in combo previously and Wright is a great ruck-forward. Nicholls could come in for Witts or even beat him out in the pre-season, with Crossley a potential debutant this year. In the midfield, we have a good kind of selection headache for the coaches because if Rischa, Rosa, Brodie, Holman, Scheer, Schoenfeld, Lonergan and Wigg are playing good footy in the NEAFL then the competition for spots will be fierce.

The list is stronger than ever, despite losing Ablett. The rebuild is almost done and the team's potential is exciting.

 

[SandyToes]

We haven't had Ablett for 3 years
Been paying him heaps but

 

[OB11]

We haven't had Ablett for 3 years
Been paying him heaps but

Apparently now that he is back at Geelong it is all about premierships, family is just a bonus.

 

[Fat Pizza]

I enjoy reading your posts, but out of Thompson, Scrimshaw, Spencer, Day, Nicholls, Crossley, Rischa, Rosa, Brodie, Holman, Scheer, Schoenfeld, Lonergan and Wigg, I can't remember any of them playing a good game in the AFL last year. Maybe Rosa had a couple? Thompson? I honestly can't remember any.

They've all got potential & I think most of them have the drive & want to succeed. I'm excited to see how they go, but it is a big jump to come from not even playing AFL in 2017 to being a good player in 2018.

I agree that all the Key Forwards & General Forwards you have listed can play forward, although I also expect Lyons & Martin to be needed in the midfield quite a bit, especially Lyons. I also agree Lemmens can play forward, although he'd need to improve his kicking to actually contribute on the scoreboard.

Of the other Defenders you have listed, Thompson, May, Harbrow & Nutting could all go forward if required. Harbrow is the most likely in my opinion & if Lynch & Wright stand up, there'd be no reason to move May or Thompson forward. I just don't think Kolodjashnij is suited to the forward line. He even looked lost when played through the middle of the ground. However he can deliver the ball well from the backline, when fit. That's his strength.

Most of the onballers can play forward, although probably not as well as the 6 forwards Mick Whiting has named. If we get injuries, I'd be looking for help from Barlow, Miller, Bowes, Sexton & Schoenfeld to help the guys you have listed as Forwards.

I do agree with most of what you've said. I just don't think KK is a forward & I think the blokes outside Whiting's 22 need to show massive improvement to be key contributors in the seniors.

 

[17er]

Playing your best half back as a forward in the NEAFL is bizarre.

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Are you suggesting KK is our best Half Back Flanker?

Jarrod Harbrow, Pearce Hanley, Jack Scrimshaw, Harrison Wigg, Lachie Weller, Jesse Joyce and Will Brodie will all be competing for 4 roles with KK. 6 or 7 of those guys, including KK, will get a game and I don't even think he will even make that unless there is a major turnaround in his form.

 

[OB11]

Everybody seems firm about KK playing in defence, but who plays forward if injuries mount up? Disagree if you feel that way, but at least make a suggestion!

KK's defensive stopping isn't exactly his strong suit - playing off a wing is not out of the realm of possibility

Nicholls could come in for Witts or even beat him out in the pre-season

Have you watched Nicholls career vs what Witts gave us last year? There will be no real contest for this position based on their respective career trajectories

 

[17er]

I enjoy reading your posts, but out of Thompson, Scrimshaw, Spencer, Day, Nicholls, Crossley, Rischa, Rosa, Brodie, Holman, Scheer, Schoenfeld, Lonergan and Wigg, I can't remember any of them playing a good game in the AFL last year. Maybe Rosa had a couple? Thompson? I honestly can't remember any.

They've all got potential & I think most of them have the drive & want to succeed. I'm excited to see how they go, but it is a big jump to come from not even playing AFL in 2017 to being a good player in 2018.

I agree that all the Key Forwards & General Forwards you have listed can play forward, although I also expect Lyons & Martin to be needed in the midfield quite a bit, especially Lyons. I also agree Lemmens can play forward, although he'd need to improve his kicking to actually contribute on the scoreboard.

Of the other Defenders you have listed, Thompson, May, Harbrow & Nutting could all go forward if required. Harbrow is the most likely in my opinion & if Lynch & Wright stand up, there'd be no reason to move May or Thompson forward. I just don't think Kolodjashnij is suited to the forward line. He even looked lost when played through the middle of the ground. However he can deliver the ball well from the backline, when fit. That's his strength.

Most of the onballers can play forward, although probably not as well as the 6 forwards Mick Whiting has named. If we get injuries, I'd be looking for help from Barlow, Miller, Bowes, Sexton & Schoenfeld to help the guys you have listed as Forwards.

I do agree with most of what you've said. I just don't think KK is a forward & I think the blokes outside Whiting's 22 need to show massive improvement to be key contributors in the seniors.

Rosa was a key contributor in all the Suns wins except 1 when he was concussed.
Lonergan had an awful year with injury timing, but played 9 games at inside mid and the Suns won 4 of them. Effective tagger as well.
Schoenfeld only got 3 starts, but had a great NEAFL season on the wing, going forward and kicking some bags too.
Thompson is an AFL standard key defender. He has stood on the best players and rarely disgraced himself. Injury cruelled his season.
Spencer had a great NEAFL season, rewarded with 5 AFL starts where he showed promise. Awesome to have another backup tall defender.
Nicholls was just a victim of Witts' outstanding form, then he went down with injury at a time when AFL opportunities came.
Rischitelli was coming back from and ACL reconstruction and realised his game fitness wasn't back so he requested to play out the season in NEAFL.
Brodie played outstanding football in the NEAFL and developed his skills, proving that the game isn't too fast for him. Clearance winner.
Scheer played in both losses to Port, the meltdown against the Demons and the win against the Cats. Better for the experience. May need to play forward.
Scrimshaw played his way into the senior team and didn't disappoint. Building his game in the NEAFL and is close top 22, maybe I/C or Emergency
Day missed all of this season, but played 98 games prior to that. He will make a huge difference when he gets back to his best footy.
Sexton is the Suns most under rated player, with the ability to tag, defend, score goals and make an impact. Written off too often.

 

[Scotty_222]

Aaron young will be playing forward.

 

[17er]

KK's defensive stopping isn't exactly his strong suit - playing off a wing is not out of the realm of possibility



Have you watched Nicholls career vs what Witts gave us last year? There will be no real contest for this position based on their respective career trajectories

If KK can play wing, he can play forward flank. I'd like to see him in the 22.

You are unfairly comparing Nicholls over his whole career to Witts one good season. Did you see Witts play for Collingwood? He was hot garbage and ended up 3rd on their ruck list on the bench for the reserves team. Meanwhile, Nicholls played his way to 1st ruck for the Suns until injury, and while some suggested Currie had beaten him back to 3rd choice it is obvious now that he is 2nd choice.

 

[TheSunGod]

Apparently now that he is back at Geelong it is all about premierships, family is just a bonus.

Saw him say something like that on Fox Sports. Disappointing that the family issues were just a get out mechanism for when the going got too tough. One of the greatest footballers of all time but not one of the greatest leaders.