Good bands gone bad

[Juicy1]

There are some other Ween fans on this forum that might agree with me in saying that Ween buck this trend.

yes indeed

 

[Damon_3388]

Totally agree with all of this with the exception of the Stones, who I thought had Tattoo You in 1981 as their last great album. It's like they simply forgot how to write great songs after this. Just looking at the cover of Dirty Work makes me dry reach.

"One Hit (To the Body)" goes alright (albeit very mid-'80s production):

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Rest of the album was pretty mediocre though, I admit.

 

[Roos4eva]

QOTSA?

Their first three were fantastic. Fourth was ok. Five was weird.

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I can understand why some people were put off by Era Vulgaris, but I thought most of it was great.

Btw, that video clip and song is taking the piss out of the superficial elements of the music industry; it's highlighting the notion that image is a bigger selling point than the music.

 

[Triple E]

The Killers own this thread.

 

[eldorado]

Red Hot Chilli Peppers have massive claims on this title,

Agreed


Their early stuff was a bit too 'busy' and silly, but they got it all together on Mother's Milk and BSSM.

It's hard to believe what they once were when you see them wandering around the stage in their undies warbling ditties about zephyrs...

 

[bunsen burner]

Totally agree with all of this with the exception of the Stones, who I thought had Tattoo You in 1981 as their last great album. It's like they simply forgot how to write great songs after this. Just looking at the cover of Dirty Work makes me dry reach.

Not sure I'd call Tattoo You great. I call it "okay". Not their best, not their worst, but on the positive side of the ledger. Emotional Rescue was a rubbish album with a couple of decent songs on it. Ditto Undercover. Dirty Work is the start of the end. Everything after is total tripe. You'd think they could write a hit every 3 or 4 years but they couldn't even do that. I remember they came out with a somg mid 90s and the opening line was "i was a butcher cutting up meat". I was like "f*** off already".

 

[ringo200]

Echoes Silence Patience and Grace is by far my favourit Foo Fighters album.

 

[The_Todd07]

Blink 182 and Offspring for similar reasons - fast paced, high energy punk songs when they first come on the scene... commercial drivel now days.

The Offspring are my favorite band and I love all their stuff but I'd agree with you on Conspiracy of One and Splinter. I like them but they are my 2 least favourite of their albums. However I loved Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace and would consider it one of my favourites.

I much prefer Rise Against's newer stuff compared to their first 2, but I know there wouldn't be many who share that thought.

I'm the same, if I rated their albums from favourite to least favourite it would go a little like this:

Siren Song of the Counter Culture
The Sufferer and the Witness
Appeal to Reason
Revolutions per Minute
The Unravelling

I think this comes from me discovering them through Guitar Hero/Rock Band and getting all 5 albums at once. That way I didn't have nostalgia clouding my opinion like so many people when comparing a bands new stuff to their old

 

[krusden]

all the time this thread has had and the most obvious IMO has been missed.

The smashing pumpkins started off with an okay album, then a bang, then a double album rock monster and Billy corgan has spent the 14 years since MCIS diluting the sound and then the band as a whole and completely stuffing any legacy this once great band may have had. They are beyond hope and the thought of this once interesting man shagging a Veronica is disgraceful.

Foo fighters could return to form with the new album. I hope they do as I wouldn't like their legacy to be "wheels" which is the most bland shit song they have ever ever released.

 

[anti_]

totally disagree with the guy that said rise against have become a better band...they totally suck now, but the fact is their first album was great at the time. revolutions per minute was ok, but now they're just some shitty stadium punk band like green day.

 

[Madtiger2006]

I haven't read any good bands yet

 

[Paddy_Mac]

The Killers own this thread.

Disagree, haven't declined not nearly as much as some other bands. They'll be back.

 

[Coolangatta]

Muse.

Undisclosed Desires is ****ing disgrace.

Yeah, the only songs I like from The Resistance album are Uprising, Resistance, and Unnatural Selection. The rest are ordinary at best.

 

[Suspense]

I remember they came out with a somg mid 90s and the opening line was "i was a butcher cutting up meat". I was like "f*** off already".

 

[JADED]

I remember they came out with a somg mid 90s and the opening line was "i was a butcher cutting up meat". I was like "f*** off already".

Same thing with LIVE & Ed Kowalczyk going all girly on the album V.
The first single "simple creed" has the words
"I'll pick you up by your puppy scruff, angry at who? me? you better back up fool"
I was like "f*** off already"

 

[Heisenberg_]

Echoes Silence Patience and Grace is by far my favourit Foo Fighters album.

It works as a very good coaster.
Thats about it

 

[Cthublhu]

The Offspring are my favorite band and I love all their stuff but I'd agree with you on Conspiracy of One and Splinter. I like them but they are my 2 least favourite of their albums. However I loved Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace and would consider it one of my favourites.

Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace is one of my favourites too. Not up there with early work but good all the same. Josh Freese's drumming helps get it there, pity he was only session working and not permanent.

 

[SugarShane]

A few spring to mind straight away, obviously Silverchair has been mentioned multiple times.

Linkin Park
A lot will argue that they were never good. But i was into Hybrid Theory in a big way. Meteora was average, some great tunes mixed among signs of things to come. And since then...

Korn
Their newest album is actually not so bad, but for a long time they lost their way in overproduced land. Head leaving definitely affected them.

Papa Roach
Hard to believe what they are now is the same band that brought us Infest (and songs like Between Angels & Insects, and Blood Brothers).

 

[Damon_3388]

Disagree, haven't declined not nearly as much as some other bands. They'll be back.

I suppose I'm in the minority by thinking that The Killers haven't declined at all, but have in fact gotten better with each album?

 

[Cats408]

Bloc Party

 

[Hodgepodge]

I can understand why some people were put off by Era Vulgaris, but I thought most of it was great.

Btw, that video clip and song is taking the piss out of the superficial elements of the music industry; it's highlighting the notion that image is a bigger selling point than the music.

lol yeah i know.

I actually don't mind the song, it's got a nice chorus, but I don't like the rap-like vocals in the verses.

Also funny to see Josh in that clip run out of new moves.

Run Pig Run was my favourite song of the EV album. Probably could've used a different range of vocals though.

 

[smasha]

Midnight Oil own this thread.

Yeah their last good album was Earth And Sun And Moon.

Redneck Wonderland was a stinker.

Most bands get worse when they get older when they run out of ideas.

The Beatles were the only band to have consistently great albums but they split up when they were still young.

 

[Oscarman]

Agreed


Their early stuff was a bit too 'busy' and silly, but they got it all together on Mother's Milk and BSSM.

It's hard to believe what they once were when you see them wandering around the stage in their undies warbling ditties about zephyrs...

It was all about the 'socks on *****' with the burning witches hats at the end of the concert though. To me, nothing else mattered. Saw them do it in Brisbane once - was awesome.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

"Our first album was just for us. Our second was to show we weren't just another Nirvana clone. Now we make music for the fans."

Misquoted, but was from a promo interview when Grohl was out here for something a year or two back.

The first album was just Dave Grohl playing everything.

It's hard to believe what they once were when you see them wandering around the stage in their undies warbling ditties about zephyrs...

They always wandered around stage in their undies or less.

 

[Bomber Bears]

I'm the same, if I rated their albums from favourite to least favourite it would go a little like this:

Siren Song of the Counter Culture
The Sufferer and the Witness
Appeal to Reason
Revolutions per Minute
The Unravelling

I think this comes from me discovering them through Guitar Hero/Rock Band and getting all 5 albums at once. That way I didn't have nostalgia clouding my opinion like so many people when comparing a bands new stuff to their old

I'd go
Revolutions per Minute (one of the best albums of the last decade)
Siren Song
Unravelling (not much between those two)

Suffer and the Witness was half good, had some very good songs eg Approaching Curve, Drones, Survive, and some average ones eg Ready to Fall, but it was clear from this album what direction they were going in, the sound had changed to a much slicker one, traces of hardcore were gone and Tim had cleaned his voice up alot.







Appeal to Reason is down here somewhere, shithouse CD