Goodwin Penalty - confirmed

[Jerome]

Goodwin fined $40,000
March 01, 2007 01:50pm
from news.com.au


ADELAIDE midfielder Simon Goodwin has been fined $40,000 for placing four bets - totalling $16,000 - on AFL matches.

Half of Goodwin's fine was suspended by the AFL, pending any future breach of the gambling laws.

Melbourne midfielder Daniel Ward and Kangaroos ruck-forward David Hale were also fined for breaching the league's gambling code, while Sydney youngster Kieren Jack was reprimanded for placing two bets totalling $10.

Ward was fined $10,000, half of which was suspended.

He also volunteered to do 100 hours of community service.

Hale received a $5000 suspended fine and was told to undergo counselling.

AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson warned that any players caught betting on AFL matches in future faced suspension.

 

[AC07]

Goodwin fined $40,000
March 01, 2007 01:50pm
from news.com.au


ADELAIDE midfielder Simon Goodwin has been fined $40,000 for placing four bets - totalling $16,000 - on AFL matches.

Half of Goodwin's fine was suspended by the AFL, pending any future breach of the gambling laws.

Melbourne midfielder Daniel Ward and Kangaroos ruck-forward David Hale were also fined for breaching the league's gambling code, while Sydney youngster Kieren Jack was reprimanded for placing two bets totalling $10.

Ward was fined $10,000, half of which was suspended.

He also volunteered to do 100 hours of community service.

Hale received a $5000 suspended fine and was told to undergo counselling.

AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson warned that any players caught betting on AFL matches in future faced suspension.

Very nice. I am very happy this is over more than anything.

 

[Cap]

looking forward to the howls of prtoest from our "friends" down the road

oh and the article in the newspaper tommorrow should be gold

are there any more port power players who haven't commented yet ?

 

[Mad Dog]

....and to think I had actually booked tickets to the Public stoning.....









hopefully Goody had a big enough win to cover the fine.....and has a good read of his contract over the weekend......




I wonder what The Trigginator has in store.......

 

[ExpectToWin]

looking forward to the howls of prtoest from our "friends" down the road

oh and the article in the newspaper tommorrow should be gold

are there any more port power players who haven't commented yet ?

Anderson is soft.

Goodwin should have been banned from playing AFL again for what he did



















Just kidding

Common sense prevailed

 

[PHX]

Honestly, did any of you think he was going to get away without match suspensions?

And good times for Goodwin, if he bet well he's only back to square one!

 

[Alex99]

Very nice. I am very happy this is over more than anything.

Me 2 – the monetary component is irrelevant because that doesn’t affect us as supporters. Being given zero games does and is huge as now he can just concentrate on the begging of the season.

 

[Gets!]

I will take that thankyou very much

 

[bus24]

Should have enough under his couch to pay it.

 

[TheFridge]

looking forward to the howls of prtoest from our "friends" down the road

oh and the article in the newspaper tommorrow should be gold

are there any more port power players who haven't commented yet ?

Happy to howl - only problem is that I think a fine is a fair outcome...

I have posted before and will again, I think all players were in breach of their contracts and should all have known better. However, I think the AFL have not demonstrated previously that they were serious regarding the issue of gambling, other than a single paragraph in the player contract.

These cases have highlighted their position and hopefully, in conjunction with the implementation of some relatively simply governance processes, will ensure all players in the future are crystal clear of their responsibilities and the gravity of any transgressions of those responsibilities.

By the way - minor point, but was interested that Ward got a lesser punishment... He bet less, but did apparently bet on matches involving Melbourne. (Maybe that part was a rumour/media beat-up).

 

[birdmanptr]

Goodwin fined $40,000
March 01, 2007 01:50pm
from news.com.au


ADELAIDE midfielder Simon Goodwin has been fined $40,000 for placing four bets - totalling $16,000 - on AFL matches.

Half of Goodwin's fine was suspended by the AFL, pending any future breach of the gambling laws.

Melbourne midfielder Daniel Ward and Kangaroos ruck-forward David Hale were also fined for breaching the league's gambling code, while Sydney youngster Kieren Jack was reprimanded for placing two bets totalling $10.

Ward was fined $10,000, half of which was suspended.

He also volunteered to do 100 hours of community service.

Hale received a $5000 suspended fine and was told to undergo counselling.

AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson warned that any players caught betting on AFL matches in future faced suspension.

Thats easy fixed if he like to ring me i have a couple of good things going around this weekend

 

[TheFridge]

Forgot to add - it will be more interesting for mine to see how the Neil Craig and the AFC will deal with Goodwin now the AFL investigation is over.

As I said, the AFL fine is fair enough, but I think his bigger issue is his behaviour as a team leader and role model for the AFC.

 

[Paralowiepower]

looking forward to the howls of prtoest from our "friends" down the road

Why always bring up about us down the road?, I don't know many Port supporters who thought Goodwin should of got games. I know I didn't.

 

[Cap]

Why always bring up about us down the road?, I don't know many Port supporters who thought Goodwin should of got games. I know I didn't.

I was counting Rucci and a port supporter

actually a heap of them at work ATM are crying a river about the lack of suspension, but i'll take it back if proven incorrect

 

[Cap]

Forgot to add - it will be more interesting for mine to see how the Neil Craig and the AFC will deal with Goodwin now the AFL investigation is over.

As I said, the AFL fine is fair enough, but I think his bigger issue is his behaviour as a team leader and role model for the AFC.

This will be interesting - I'm not sure there is anything they can do.

 

[Truck Rutten]

For once with the AFL common sense has prevailed.

 

[Macca19]

Sounds about right.

 

[Truck Rutten]

Happy to howl - only problem is that I think a fine is a fair outcome...

I have posted before and will again, I think all players were in breach of their contracts and should all have known better. However, I think the AFL have not demonstrated previously that they were serious regarding the issue of gambling, other than a single paragraph in the player contract.

These cases have highlighted their position and hopefully, in conjunction with the implementation of some relatively simply governance processes, will ensure all players in the future are crystal clear of their responsibilities and the gravity of any transgressions of those responsibilities.

By the way - minor point, but was interested that Ward got a lesser punishment... He bet less, but did apparently bet on matches involving Melbourne. (Maybe that part was a rumour/media beat-up).

Good post TF. That's pretty much how I feel about the issue.

 

[BockPorplyziaFC]

Fair punishment. Im relieved, I was affraid the afl would go over the top with it.


I personally think that betting on your own team is worse than the amount of money that was bet but am not concerned with that after seeing what the penalty is.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Phew!!!!!! Goody should go buy himself a lottery ticket

$20K fine and a suspended fine of $20K, plus no matches. Much better than I expected.

 

[Alex99]

Why did Ward only get $10,000? Wasn't he betting on Melbourne games? Or does it have something to do with the amount they were betting? (I haven't actually read much on the details, so I have no idea how much Ward was betting in comparison to Goody and the others).

He bet on them to 'win' not 'lose'.

 

[AC07]

Well it would've been unfair to hit them hard just to set an example when it hasn't been an issue before.

I would say 100's have bet on games.

The AFL have now issued a hard warning that if any bet on the AFL from now they will be facing definite suspension.

Absolutely the right and logical thing to do.

 

[birdmanptr]

Why always bring up about us down the road?, I don't know many Port supporters who thought Goodwin should of got games. I know I didn't.

This makes you the odd man out i would say good to hear though

 

[AAMI]

Forgot to add - it will be more interesting for mine to see how the Neil Craig and the AFC will deal with Goodwin now the AFL investigation is over.

As I said, the AFL fine is fair enough, but I think his bigger issue is his behaviour as a team leader and role model for the AFC.

That's a fair comment but the Crows have already indicated they would be prepared to stand by him by appointing him captain last Friday night. So, don't expect him to be dropped from the leadership group (and IMO neither should he).

It has been publicised that Simon's bets equalled $16k but what hasn't been revealed is how much he won or lost with those bets. Who knows, he may still be in front even after paying the fine!

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Well it would've been unfair to hit them hard just to set an example when it hasn't been an issue before.

I would say 100's have bet on games.

The AFL have now issued a hard warning that if any bet on the AFL from now they will be facing definite suspension.

Absolutely the right and logical thing to do.

I reckon that's a fair enough comment. I don't think the first caught out in this case should have been made an example of ... but anyone who does the same now ... well they're just asking for a kicking (a relevant, AFL approved one of course )

And $40K ($20K upfront) is still a fair slab of cash, even if he did sprinkle $16K on bets.

Don't know if anyone caught Caro's article in The Age, but it might explain the leniency shown Ward.

AFL has less room to punish punters

Caroline Wilson
March 1, 2007

DANIEL Kerr's somewhat compromised punishment of a heavy fine but no immediate match suspension has just made Adrian Anderson's job in judging the AFL's gambling quartet that much tougher.

Having chosen yesterday not to intervene and seek further punishment for the serial-offending Eagle, the AFL's football operations general manager will today reach a conclusion on the four players who gambled with radically varying wallets and agendas on AFL games.

Some clubs — certainly the Kangaroos, Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide — would argue that David Hale, Kieren Jack, Daniel Ward and Simon Goodwin have already been punished enough. For two weeks now, the spectre of their "crime" has hung over them publicly, along with the pressure of a potential penalty.

The league has taken too long to reach its decision. In fairness to Anderson, he lost several days because of the birth of his first child, a boy called Charlie, but given the investigators had finished their job a week earlier, it must be said that the handling of this issue has been far from perfect.

Now the football community has the comparison of Kerr, again charged with assault, again drunk, again in court. While the West Coast directors were tougher than coach John Worsfold wanted, they handed out the fine the coach recommended but shied away from suspending their champion midfielder.

The Eagles are nothing if not consistent. Yet again, they have demonstrated that winning is pretty much everything.

Even the suspended sentence hanging over Kerr for two years appears largely influenced by the AFL, whose chief executive Andrew Demetriou as good as told The Age three days ago that if West Coast was soft on Kerr, the AFL would step in as it did several years ago during the James Hird umpiring controversy.

It was suggested on radio yesterday that Ward and Goodwin — who gambled in three and four-figure sums, with Ward backing his own team in a multiple bet — faced 12-week suspensions. That is surely a ridiculous claim.

Consider the case of Ward, a self-confessed compulsive gambler who remains financially crippled. Melbourne's club psychologist, along with a psychologist provided by the AFL Players' Association, has placed submissions with Anderson pleading for community-based punishment and compulsory counselling for the troubled player.

It would seem difficult to justify suspending Ward, who is existing largely on match payments and who would be savagely hit by financial penalties as well as missed games.

Ward has stood up before his teammates and admitted he has a problem. His wife, Mel, reportedly stood beside him and now the couple continue to seek help. The AFL resent such comparisons, but if Ward had a drug habit, his name would not even be publicly known under its drug code unless he had been caught three times.

You could argue that players gambling on football games affects the community at large in a way that illegal drug abuse does not. You could also argue that illegal drug use could be far more damaging to a football club than gambling.

When Anderson hands down his decision today, or tomorrow at the latest, he will be aware that to suspend the punters — none of whom bet against their own sides — would be to concede that within AFL rules, their crimes were worse than that of a violent drunk.