News Hawthorn AGM 2022

[MrPremiership]

Just looked at this. Again - the man is so heavily conflicted it's not funny. I think all ex-leaders of all sides need to take a page out of Gillard's book in how to graciously shut the * up about politics once done with it and representing other interests/organisations.

A night at home on the reds........and he's just spent a few hours replying to a lot on twitter......as the current President of Hawthorn.....

 

[wahawk]

Fresh and ethical? Think the existing board members might throw up his lack of nomination understanding speaks to his competence levels as 2 others had no issues and understood timelines. Apparently a fair bit of detail coming back about his time as footy director, hawks for change probably prepared but want to be.

When does the nomination period usually close ?
How long before the AGM ?

 

[Linda CRS]

When does the nomination period usually close ?
How long before the AGM ?

I’m not sure.

 

[wahawk]

I’m not sure.

Ok so how do you know Gowers had a lack of understanding the nomination process ?

As I posted earlier, closing the nominations 8 weeks out from the AGM does not sound normal to me. I’ve always thought it was 21days or thereabouts.

I can not find anywhere in the constitution that gives a timeline

 

[wahawk]

Further to that, of course the existing board knew about the timeline, they decided it

 

[MrPremiership]

Ok so how do you know Gowers had a lack of understanding the nomination process ?

As I posted earlier, closing the nominations 8 weeks out from the AGM does not sound normal to me. I’ve always thought it was 21days or thereabouts.

I can not find anywhere in the constitution that gives a timeline

Gowers has said on an interview in the last few days that he always wanted to nominate but wasn't aware of the deadline. He was holidaying in Paris when someone advised him of the upcoming deadline, so he rushed the paperwork to get in before deadline.

 

[wahawk]

Gowers has said on an interview in the last few days that he always wanted to nominate but wasn't aware of the deadline. He was holidaying in Paris when someone advised him of the upcoming deadline, so he rushed the paperwork to get in before deadline.

Yes I know that but as I said 8 weeks out does not sound normal.
He would know there’s a deadline but it seems the board kept that date relatively quiet.

 

[MrPremiership]

Yes I know that but as I said 8 weeks out does not sound normal.
He would know there’s a deadline but it seems the board kept that date relatively quiet.

The implication from a few parties is that a few individuals at the club have kept all this quite vague and secret on purpose to ensure "their man" gets the gig

 

[wahawk]

The implication from a few parties is that a few individuals at the club have kept all this quite vague and secret on purpose to ensure "their man" gets the gig

Yes, that’s been my point.

Let’s make the date sooner rather than later, but don’t tell anyone. Let this be our little secret.

That Gowers bloke won’t know what happened.

 

[MrPremiership]

Yes, that’s been my point.

Let’s make the date sooner rather than later, but don’t tell anyone. Let this be our little secret.

That Gowers bloke won’t know what happened.

It obviously hasn't worked. Gowers nominated has put the pressure on Nankervill/Kennett

Ed Sill would be a Dicker man, so not sure Jeff would be too pleased about that.

It sounds like Merlino is in the Gowers camp, despite best efforts from Nankervill and Kennett.


God bless the Hawks 4 Change movement

 

[Linda CRS]

Ok so how do you know Gowers had a lack of understanding the nomination process ?

As I posted earlier, closing the nominations 8 weeks out from the AGM does not sound normal to me. I’ve always thought it was 21days or thereabouts.

I can not find anywhere in the constitution that gives a timeline

It’s the same timeline as it was last year when Ian Silk nominated for the board and I presume the same for a fair while. Undoubtedly clouded or shrouded in secrecy but it hasn’t altered.

 

[Mississippi]

If you ever want to discourage pesky members from nominating as a director or president of a footy club, you should have a clause in the constitution that requires the nomination to be made not less than 37 business days before the applicable AGM. (Calculating 37 business days in itself is a task because you have to work back and exclude weekends and public holidays)

And then the club secretary (and current directors) can ensure that notice of the AGM is not given to members until after that deadline.

The result is that many pesky aspiring directors will miss their chance to nominate for the board because by the time they know when the AGM is to be held, they've missed the 37 business day deadline!!
But because the current directors and president of the footy club know in advance when the AGM and election is to be held (bearing in mind that they actually set that date), they can ensure that their (non-pesky) mates can put in their nominations in time.

That's our constitution.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Dare say your opinion would change if it was your non verbal child coming home with unexplained injuries

It may, but we’re talking about two completely different scenarios to be fair.

On one hand your saying that a minister covered something up, which apart from anecdotes, we don’t actually know for sure if it happened - maybe it was in those links you posted? I didn’t open them as I didn’t want to do a deep dive on whether your allegations we’re true or not. You’ve made your call on that, and fair enough.

On the other hand we have a president with a very real, lengthy and public record of doing and saying the wrong thing as both a politician and as our president. This is something that to my knowledge doesn’t attach itself to Merlino.

 

[tommyk72]

Just looked at this. Again - the man is so heavily conflicted it's not funny. I think all ex-leaders of all sides need to take a page out of Gillard's book in how to graciously shut the * up about politics once done with it and representing other interests/organisations.

Gillard has done brilliantly. Not just butting out of Aus politics, but also making a substantive contribution on the global stage.

 

[wahawk]

It’s the same timeline as it was last year when Ian Silk nominated for the board and I presume the same for a fair while. Undoubtedly clouded or shrouded in secrecy but it hasn’t altered.

Well I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
I don’t believe 8 weeks out from the AGM is the usual timeline but neither of us can prove it either way at this stage

 

[Delecate Des]

Seriously, selective moderating at play again I see!

 

[flinchfree]

It’s not critical, the afl arms race says it’s not. Whatever we build others will follow with afl assistance. One of the issues with the board is they overlooked the inability of Dingley to be commercialised. So basically zero revenue. We’ve just sold 2 strong cash streams, if you invested all of our net proceeds today from those sales you couldn’t produce near the annual cash return those businesses have. We have a short fall that when you throw in Tassy means uncharted financial waters. Dingleys a strong asset but it’s value is only high performance training, nothing else. A tips a tip.

Why can't Dingley be commercialized?
In particular, the secondary piece of land that we picked up adjacent to the area we are developing for the training grounds/center....

 

[Linda CRS]

Why can't Dingley be commercialized?
In particular, the secondary piece of land that we picked up adjacent to the area we are developing for the training grounds/center....

Council restrictions on permit I believe.

 

[Mercy Seat]

It’s not critical, the afl arms race says it’s not. Whatever we build others will follow with afl assistance. One of the issues with the board is they overlooked the inability of Dingley to be commercialised. So basically zero revenue. We’ve just sold 2 strong cash streams, if you invested all of our net proceeds today from those sales you couldn’t produce near the annual cash return those businesses have. We have a short fall that when you throw in Tassy means uncharted financial waters. Dingleys a strong asset but it’s value is only high performance training, nothing else. A tips a tip.

Bizarre if true, surely we would have known that going in? It means there can’t even be a cafe or hawks nest there?

 

[wahawk]

Bizarre if true, surely we would have known that going in? It means there can’t even be a cafe or hawks nest there?

Indoor Recreation Facility
The responsible authority may grant a permit allowing an Indoor Recreation Facility in conjunction with the outdoor leisure, recreation and sporting use of the land. The Indoor Recreation Facility may include ancillary uses such as an education space, administration offices, gymnasium, meeting rooms, coaching and media rooms.
Medical Centre
The responsible authority may grant a permit allowing Medical Consulting Rooms on the land in conjunction with the outdoor leisure, recreation and sporting use of the land.
Shop and Food and Drinks Premises (café)
The responsible authority may grant a permit allowing a shop and food and drinks premises (café).
Museum
The responsible authority may grant a permit allowing a museum that is open for more than 10 days per year

 

[HedgeFund]

I reiterate a previous post of mine. We're just about to see the back of JK who divided the supporter base. Why bring in another pollie who could potentially do the same? Not worth it IMO.

You’re making the presumption that James Merlino, who was only ever a deputy / acting Premier, actually brought people together, and worked well with the other side of the political aisle, is in someway similar to Jeff Kennett.

That’s completely incorrect.

With both the state and federal governments currently controlled by the ALP, having a well respected former ALP MP on the board would be a very shrewd move indeed.

 

[Jane Doe]

You’re making the presumption that James Merlino, who was only ever a deputy / acting Premier, actually brought people together, and worked well with the other side of the political aisle, is in someway similar to Jeff Kennett.

That’s completely incorrect.

With both the state and federal governments currently controlled by the ALP, having a well respected former ALP MP on the board would be a very shrewd move indeed.

Respected by certain posters with a leaning towards the ALP?

 

[B&GBlood]

Respected by certain posters with a leaning towards the ALP?

Well Gowers is a member of the Liberal Party and wants him on his ticket. I would suggest that indicates he is respected by Gowers. I assume he is respected by the ALP?

 

[thehardway]

You’re making the presumption that James Merlino, who was only ever a deputy / acting Premier, actually brought people together, and worked well with the other side of the political aisle, is in someway similar to Jeff Kennett.

That’s completely incorrect.

With both the state and federal governments currently controlled by the ALP, having a well respected former ALP MP on the board would be a very shrewd move indeed.

No doubt Kennett is a bigger prick than Merlino. And no doubt that Labor at both the State and Federal level will be in the ascendency for some time. Will Merlino make a difference as far as funding for Dingley goes? Maybe. I think the biggest factor in getting state funding is Kennett leaving. I just don't want another pollie on the board. My view and I stand by it. But hey, it's good that members will get to vote and we can all be happy with that.

 

[Topiary]

Respected by certain posters with a leaning towards the ALP?

Let’s keep Politics out of this. What a joke. Let’s be realistic.

Merlino appointment is what the HFC needs right now.

That said, should the Libs get up, things change, but I believe he is a quality candidate regardless of his political stripes. Much to the chagrin of Delicate Des.

The HFC needs sensible and quality stewardship. Again to the chagrin of Delicate Des.