Streaming [HBO] True Detective

[vast]

Another intruging episode I thought, loved how all those years later Rust still hadn't fixed the tail light broken during his fight with Marty

Good pick up

 

[grizzlym]

Good article on the theories swirling around.

http://flavorwire.com/441484/a-brief-up-to-date-guide-to-internet-theories-about-true-detective/

The bit about Cohle is particularly good, I think.

 

[Vincent Chase]

Nic Pizzolatto doesn't want to over think it, it seems. Linked this article on his twitter.

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2014/02/true-detective-theories-misguided-opinion/

Also hinted that one or both detectives next season will be female.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Wow...just watched back to back Ep 1-4 in a row.

Ep 4...end scene in the projects....up there with one of the best filmed TV sequences of the past decade.

....astoundingly filmed.

6 minute continuous take follow shot, IIRC?

Pretty amazing. The only TV show I can remember trying something more ambitious was an episode of the X-Files titled Triangle, which used several multiple minute continuous shots to make up the episode.

 

[Elixuh]

Good article on the theories swirling around.

http://flavorwire.com/441484/a-brief-up-to-date-guide-to-internet-theories-about-true-detective/

The bit about Cohle is particularly good, I think.

Cohle could have gone to the crime scene on purpose knowing that he would be photographed in the hope that he was brought in for questioning. Allows him to see what the cops have on the case. Goes to what Hart said about Cohle getting a read on them and not the other way around.

 

[grizzlym]

Cohle could have gone to the crime scene on purpose knowing that he would be photographed in the hope that he was brought in for questioning. Allows him to see what the cops have on the case. Goes to what Hart said about Cohle getting a read on them and not the other way around.

The notion of Cohle going the long-play is a compelling one. As is the idea he's waited for his moment and is actually in control.

 

[Starburns_]

Good article on the theories swirling around.

http://flavorwire.com/441484/a-brief-up-to-date-guide-to-internet-theories-about-true-detective/

The bit about Cohle is particularly good, I think.

Really liked that theory on Cohle, the part about lawnmower man not being significant enough for a cover-up made sense too. Tuttle having died is the troublesome part though, means it needs to be someone else this time, even if he was involved to begin with.

The public nature of only two killings is interesting too, I reckon there's something to read into there. They're far more ritualistic, perhaps they signify a 'new' yellow king or something?

 

[Elixuh]

The notion of Cohle going the long-play is a compelling one. As is the idea he's waited for his moment and is actually in control.

They've really done well with the inherent dualism involved in clues/information presented to the viewer. I think that coupled with a focus on realism and literal interpretation will make for an interesting review of the season once its concluded.

 

[grizzlym]

Really liked that theory on Cohle, the part about lawnmower man not being significant enough for a cover-up made sense too. Tuttle having died is the troublesome part though, means it needs to be someone else this time, even if he was involved to begin with.

The public nature of only two killings is interesting too, I reckon there's something to read into there. They're far more ritualistic, perhaps they signify a 'new' yellow king or something?

I dunno if it's been mentioned, but the 'green ears' of spaghetti man might simply be industrial ear muff things.

 

[Vincent Chase]

 

[rumply]

Cohle could have gone to the crime scene on purpose knowing that he would be photographed in the hope that he was brought in for questioning. Allows him to see what the cops have on the case. Goes to what Hart said about Cohle getting a read on them and not the other way around.

Could well be. & interesting that at the roadside meeting with Hart, Cohle hardly looks like the run down half lunatic piss head he did during the police interview. Looked healthy & had wits about him, definitely was playing the detectives, & as had been suggested before, reckon he is undercover in one guise or another.

 

[grizzlym]

They've really done well with the inherent dualism involved in clues/information presented to the viewer. I think that coupled with a focus on realism and literal interpretation will make for an interesting review of the season once its concluded.

Yeah. I almost feel like I'm reading a really good book. It's all about the characters, the story, rather than tricks or gimmicks.

 

[grizzlym]

Wow. either a lazy art director, a cunningly planted clue, or an equally cunningly placed piece of misdirection.

I can't help but think the wife is somehow mixed up in it. Which leads you to her apple pie, god-fearing parents too.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Wow. either a lazy art director, a cunningly planted clue, or an equally cunningly placed piece of misdirection.

I can't help but think the wife is somehow mixed up in it. Which leads you to her apple pie, god-fearing parents too.

There is no way it's a lazy art director. It is either a clue or misdirection (I can never be sure which with this show), but it's now a number of troublesome pieces of art from Hart's daughter. She is seriously messed up!

 

[MC Bad Genius]

Overall I thought the episode was great, but quite unfulfilling. The bust up between them seemed destined to be with Rust sleeping with Marty's wife, but the way it played out was brilliant.

Even in such a dark show there is some great humour. Both the cracked tail-light 10 years on and Cohle's last words to Hart after he quit the Police ("Nice hook, Marty") quite tickled me!

 

[Starburns_]

I dunno if it's been mentioned, but the 'green ears' of spaghetti man might simply be industrial ear muff things.

It's mentioned in that article.

Admittedly, she does work in a hospital. It's not much of a stretch to suggest she worked at the second one.

 

[grizzlym]

It's mentioned in that article.



Admittedly, she does work in a hospital.

Ah, there you go. I was away last week and Mrs Grizzlym pointed out a guy on a ride on mower and made that observation.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

6 minute continuous take follow shot, IIRC?

Pretty amazing. The only TV show I can remember trying something more ambitious was an episode of the X-Files titled Triangle, which used several multiple minute continuous shots to make up the episode.

I was right before my edit, it wasn't just a continuous take but they shot in a single take as well.

You can see the points where they allowed themselves space to chop and edit, I think 3-4 pans between rooms where there is no person in shot, but from a brief internet search it appears they didn't have to.

Full credit to the actors, especially McConaughey, not unusual for actors, heck even serious professionals to forget their markers on a first take. To be able to navigate that whole scene like that, under pressure and filming in one take is pretty amazing. Perhaps though the nerves and jittery or raw quality of such a long shot on first take, really shines through and helps give that extra feeling of tension.

 

[Vincent Chase]

Admittedly, she does work in a hospital. It's not much of a stretch to suggest she worked at the second one.

Maybe Audrey had a brief stay at that mental hospital?

 

[Silvagnis]

Admittedly, she does work in a hospital. It's not much of a stretch to suggest she worked at the second one.

Tuttle died from taking "mixed medications".

Another article noticed that Reverend Tuttle drinking from a John Deere mug. Logo is Yellow Stag.

 

[grizzlym]

I was right before my edit, it wasn't just a continuous take but they shot in a single take as well.

You can see the points where they allowed themselves space to chop and edit, I think 3-4 pans between rooms where there is no person in shot, but from a brief internet search it appears they didn't have to.

Full credit to the actors, especially McConaughey, not unusual for actors, heck even serious professionals to forget their markers on a first take. To be able to navigate that whole scene like that, under pressure and filming in one take is pretty amazing. Perhaps though the nerves and jittery or raw quality of such a long shot on first take, really shines through and helps give that extra feeling of tension.

Yeah, that's right. It wasn't a continuous shot like in Atonement, but more a fluid sequence.

 

[Unknown Identity]

It's a combination of brilliant acting and subtle little clues/hints that makes this absolutely breathtaking.. I don't think i blink most episodes in case i miss something important. I feel like a 10 year show is about to come to an end.. 2 Ep's to go and i'm already fearing the withdrawals.

 

[Elixuh]

Overall I thought the episode was great, but quite unfulfilling. The bust up between them seemed destined to be with Rust sleeping with Marty's wife, but the way it played out was brilliant.

Even in such a dark show there is some great humour. Both the cracked tail-light 10 years on and Cohle's last words to Hart after he quit the Police ("Nice hook, Marty") quite tickled me!

Do a re-watch of the episodes. Some of the dialogue between Cohle and Hart absolutely cracked me up upon a second viewing. Especially the scenes in the car. Hart often doesn't even have to say anything in between Cohle's monologues its his WTF stares and glances that are a crack up.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Tuttle died from taking "mixed medications".

Another article noticed that Reverend Tuttle drinking from a John Deere mug. Logo is Yellow Stag.

So the wife knows the daughter was abused and she and Cohle acted in concert to mete out revenge?

Or perhaps she acted alone?

Whatever the case, the hypothesis that a person or persons, were preying on kids from the Tuttle schools as some part of a weird child abuse ring makes sense.

Going further, the spaced out killings, are probably tied to the initial assaults. Whether it is some cult fruit bags or a crazed lone wolf, who knew about the abuse is yet to be determined.

The red herrings and clues are probably obscure deliberately. A way of giving a sense of mystery or to keep people guessing, which is essential to this genre, without being too manipulative like say the Killing. However, the final mystery may be more obvious.

As long as the writing and acting stays at such a high standard, that really doesn't bother me... though I would also be fine with a plot twist.

 

[vast]

Im still thinking the younger daughter will be involved in some kind of reveal. Cant wait.
This will be the first tv show I fork out for the Blu Ray.

Also cant wait to see what McConaughey brings in interstellar.