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Very satisfied with the ending, &
Rust's galactic vision leaves it up to the viewer to decide if he was hallucinating or if there was some 'other world' action going on, which sits well with me. I reckon he was hallucinating but who knows, might change my mind at some point

Long long wait now for season 2:(
 
Not trying to overhype the show but as a whole that was the best first season of any show I can remember. It's so far ahead of the rest of the field that I couldn't possibly think of something that would fit in #2.

Indeed. I actually described the first episode to a friend as the best first episode of any series I have ever watched.
 

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Not trying to overhype the show but as a whole that was the best first season of any show I can remember. It's so far ahead of the rest of the field that I couldn't possibly think of something that would fit in #2.

Just on this. What shows are you comparing it to? I only ask because I can only see this as a miniseries even if there are other seasons under the true Detective name. Which is why I can't compare it to the Wire, Sopranos etc. It's got the advantage of telling a complete story in one season.

Generation Kill is my favourite piece of television, yet I wouldn't call it my favourite TV series because it really wasn't one. Not that it matters, it's technically speaking at best, but something I need to separate.
 
Just on this. What shows are you comparing it to? I only ask because I can only see this as a miniseries even if there are other seasons under the true Detective name. Which is why I can't compare it to the Wire, Sopranos etc. It's got the advantage of telling a complete story in one season.

Generation Kill is my favourite piece of television, yet I wouldn't call it my favourite TV series because it really wasn't one. Not that it matters, it's technically speaking at best, but something I need to separate.

I'd consider this a TV series definitely. It's been promised as an anthology series, but that doesn't distract it from its TV series status. Same goes for shows like American Horror Story (which admittedly, I haven't seen).

If it were a miniseries, ala Band of Brothers, this would be the only version.

That's how I look at things anyway.

If we are terming it a mini-series, then my praise would still stand, except Band of Brothers would be up there, with From the Earth to the Moon trailing.
 
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They painted themselves into a corner early on with all the mythologyTBH, and probably didn't know where to go with it, so they (in essence) just dropped it and left it unresolved, and made it seem like the show was more about the characters than the case.

Was fully expecting some sort of twist in the ending; Was expecting some sort of transformation/metamorphosis from Rust when he got stabbed and was having the blade pushed deeper into him, or when they showed him sitting alone in the hospital bed looking like Jesus, but then maybe I've just seen Twin Peaks too many times, and was expecting more of a supernatural element to it all.
 
I'd consider this a TV series definitely. It's been promised as an anthology series, but that doesn't distract it from its TV series status. Same goes for shows like American Horror Story (which admittedly, I haven't seen).

Another 3 seasons like this one and it can genuinely be put in that "TV series" bracket. It'd still be 32 episodes of great storytelling, just formatted differently.

They painted themselves into a corner early on with all the mythologyTBH, and probably didn't know where to go with it, so they (in essence) just dropped it and left it unresolved, and made it seem like the show was more about the characters than the case.

They hardly painted themselves into a corner, that's the beauty of telling the whole story in one season, they ended up where they planned on ending up.
 

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They painted themselves into a corner early on with all the mythologyTBH, and probably didn't know where to go with it, so they (in essence) just dropped it and left it unresolved, and made it seem like the show was more about the characters than the case.

Was fully expecting some sort of twist in the ending; Was expecting some sort of transformation/metamorphosis from Rust when he got stabbed and was having the blade pushed deeper into him, or when they showed him sitting alone in the hospital bed looking like Jesus, but then maybe I've just seen Twin Peaks too many times, and was expecting more of a supernatural element to it all.
The show was written and filmed before all the theories came out. It was us, the viewers, who created all the mythology, not the show.
 
I'd consider this a TV series definitely. It's been promised as an anthology series, but that doesn't distract it from its TV series status. Same goes for shows like American Horror Story (which admittedly, I haven't seen).

If it were a miniseries, ala Band of Brothers, this would be the only version.

That's how I look at things anyway.

If we are terming it a mini-series, then my praise would still stand, except Band of Brothers would be up there, with From the Earth to the Moon trailing.
For me i'd put it alongside The Shadow Line as my favourite 7-8 episode show i've seen. When there is another season or 2 I will reassess.
 
They hardly painted themselves into a corner, that's the beauty of telling the whole story in one season, they ended up where they planned on ending up.

No, they didn't change the plans for the show because of some theories on the internet.

The show was written and filmed before all the theories came out. It was us, the viewers, who created all the mythology, not the show.

I'm not referring to anything people have speculated on or theorised on the internet. I've actually stayed away from all of that myself, so it hasn't influenced my expectations at all.

They presented the idea of ritual killings, a cult, and a possible "higher power", as well as a lead character who has unusual, possibly supernatural perception/abilities, and all it really resulted in was a standard "crazy killer" ending. With the way the story was built in the early episodes, it's fair to say a lot more was to be expected from the ending.
 
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I'm not referring to anything people have speculated on or theorised on the internet. I've actually stayed away from all of that myself, so it hasn't influenced my expectations at all.

They presented the idea of ritual killings, a cult, and a possible "higher power", as well as a lead character who has unusual, possibly supernatural perception/abilities, and all it really resulted in was a standard "crazy killer" ending. With the way the story was built in the early episodes, it's fair to say a lot more was to be expected from the ending.

I wasn't suggesting you were talking about the internet.

But they would have had the entire story mapped out before shooting, they still didn't "paint themselves into a corner", the choices in story were deliberate. They chose the ending they did because that's how they wanted the story to end, if they didn't they might have fiddled around with other aspects of the story.

They meant to arrive at the point they did, and they made references in dialogue to nothing ever being finished, etc.
 
I wasn't suggesting you were talking about the internet.

But they would have had the entire story mapped out before shooting, they still didn't "paint themselves into a corner", the choices in story were deliberate. They chose the ending they did because that's how they wanted the story to end, if they didn't they might have fiddled around with other aspects of the story.

They meant to arrive at the point they did, and they made references in dialogue to nothing ever being finished, etc.

What I mean is, they had some great broad ideas that they presented early in the piece, but it seems like they just tacked a generic ending onto it, rather than really knowing where to go with the initial ideas and going full bore with something unique and different. I understand that they referred to things never being resolved, but it just seemed like they dumbed the whole thing down so much in that final episode, and it could have been so much more.

Was a little disappointed with the last few eps.....not that it isn't a great show but I was hoping for a more supernatural David Lynch type of direction and the last ep was kind of predictable with no jaw dropping moments

Yeah if people are familiar with the Black/White Lodge story arc that closed Twin Peaks (it seemed to run for a shorter span of episodes than True Detective did, as well as being concurrent with other things going on in the series), they'll get what I mean as far as the direction goes. Along the way they hinted at something like this in True Detective, but they obviously didn't pursue it in the end, which was disappointing.
 

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What I mean is, they had some great broad ideas that they presented early in the piece, but it seems like they just tacked a generic ending onto it, rather than really knowing where to go with the initial ideas and going full bore with something unique and different. I understand that they referred to things never being resolved, but it just seemed like they dumbed the whole thing down so much in that final episode, and it could have been so much more.

They did. The writers refused to bend to the pop culture of lame twists and went with reality.

Dumbing it down would've been adding a twist.
 
What I mean is, they had some great broad ideas that they presented early in the piece, but it seems like they just tacked a generic ending onto it, rather than really knowing where to go with the initial ideas and going full bore with something unique and different. I understand that they referred to things never being resolved, but it just seemed like they dumbed the whole thing down so much in that final episode, and it could have been so much more.



Yeah if people are familiar with the Black/White Lodge story arc that closed Twin Peaks (and seemed to run for a shorter span of episodes, as well as being concurrent with other things going on in the series), they'll get what I mean as far as the direction goes. Along the way they hinted at something like this in True Detective, but they obviously didn't pursue it in the end, which was disappointing.
It never had a supernatural feel to it
The cult believed in the supernatural/religion and thus there were elements of worship and the occult but it was all real, real killings, real places, real people who believe in that stuff, the girls diary, the mentally damaged people and the carcosa cult but in the end, as it was in the show, it was just a group of men raping and killing people, and one of the key figures of that was caught, nothing more, nothing less
 
They did. The writers refused to bend to the pop culture of lame twists and went with reality.

Yeah but it just made for a generic and dull ending, that didn't capitalise on the initial story's full potential and betrayed quality that came early in the series.

It never had a supernatural feel to it
The cult believed in the supernatural/religion and thus there were elements of worship and the occult but it was all real, real killings, real places, real people who believe in that stuff, the girls diary, the mentally damaged people and the carcosa cult but in the end, as it was in the show, it was just a group of men raping and killing people, and one of the key figures of that was caught, nothing more, nothing less

Yes, but it could have been far more, that's the point, and that's what makes it disappointing. It makes a lot of what was presented in the early episodes appear to be total bluff and total fluff in hindsight.
 
Yeah but it just made for a generic and dull ending, that didn't capitalise on the initial story's full potential and betrayed quality that came early in the series.

I don't think the quality was ever in the case itself, but in the characters and quality production/direction.
 
Well yeah, but the "what does it all mean?" and "where is it all going?" kept people's interest just as strongly too I'd say.

Yeah true - some people anyway, but the end result was reality. I never suspected any super-natural involvement, and the end reinforced that this wasn't that kind of story, it was just stupid inbred that like to dress up and do what he did. Just like in real life.
 

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