Henderson moving back forward?

[kreuze_missile]

Structural move due to Podsiadily being out of the side? Or should we expect to see more of him in the coming weeks?

From here I think we should be persisting with him playing forward. We don't have any lead up forwards which as a role Lachie can definitely play. I also don't think we can rely on Waite to be suiting up again anytime soon.

With Laidler on the way back and Watson/Duigan looking solid, perhaps we can get by without him.

 

[goreds]

Nope, send him back as soon as we can get a gorilla to play forward...

Love his attack on the ball coming out of defence...

 

[Kramer1]

Should never have been put forward tonight and no idea why this argumet persists. Is one of the best emerging KPDs in the game but quite an average forward...dropped a number of simple marks tonight

 

[Wickzki]

The dilemma, and it's a nice one to have, is what do you do with Watson, Jamo and Henderson when teams play small forward lines and there isn't a match for all three? Watson will prove to be too good to be sitting in the Northern Blues and needs game time to develop to the next level. That leaves Henderson going forward, especially with Waite unlikely to play again anytime soon.

Nice dilemma to have as I cannot remember the last time we had such good key position depth down back. For the past decade teams have been flogging us due to an inept backline. I remember all of the beatings Thornton took when he was the only average key defender that we had for years.

 

[koutamarto]

We need to build a premiership team around a strong spine. I say play watson for the rest of the year and let him develop into the CHB we drafted him to be. We have a gun FB in Jammo. This leaves the 2 forward posts. Even tho Lachie has played better footy @ CHB, he is also the only player beside waite who has shown he might be a CHF's areshole in the last 8 years. he took 6 marks tonight and did some nice things. he is only 22. not many 22CHF's play better than that consistently, and he has had no continuity in the position. I say keep him there and as soon as Mitchel is fit enough bring him in and let them develop into a damaging Duo, the same as Watto and Jammo down back.. We have tried to win a premiership by buying midfielders (judd, Mclean) and drafting them (the list is endless) the simple fact is midfielders are generally dime a dozen and we need to develop out young KPP's.

 

[gbatman]

Thought we got it wrong with hampson playing up the ground and henderson deep. Don't mind seeing players shifted around that are young or when we are going poorly.

 

[koutamarto]

Nope, send him back as soon as we can get a gorilla to play forward...

Love his attack on the ball coming out of defence...

When being the key word. I think he is the "Gorilla"

 

[koutamarto]

Should never have been put forward tonight and no idea why this argumet persists. Is one of the best emerging KPDs in the game but quite an average forward...dropped a number of simple marks tonight

Does not make him a bad CHF if he dropped a couple of marks tonight, has shown in recent times he is more than capable of clunking a good mark.
The argument persists because its sticks out like a dogs nuts that we need a CHF and @ 22 Lachie has shown plenty of potential in the position, even though he has shown more down back, we have other options down there.

 

[Jeremias]

Should never have been put forward tonight and no idea why this argumet persists. Is one of the best emerging KPDs in the game but quite an average forward...dropped a number of simple marks tonight

Seriously?

Ratten and the MC have given plenty of reasons to be critical, but moving Henderson forward tonight isn't one of them.

In no way does moving him forward mean they don't believe his future lies at CHB.

The fact is that we've been killed in the forward line due to a lack of a consistently competent tall target since Waite went down. Hammer can provide an option at times but nowhere near enough at this stage.

Henderson forward provided that option, that target we needed, and I thought he played quite well. Obviously didn't get into the game as much as he probably would have if he was down back, but he played a role which was structurally vital for us.

Moving Hendo into the forward line also enabled Watto to take on a little more responsibility which he did and did well.

Can't possibly be overly critical with that move.

 

[mikeythemoocow]

Hendo forward was the one good thing from tonight. Works hard, if we didn't alway kick to Betts leading to the pockets we could have kicked to the free Hendo in the goal square a few times, but its heaps better to have 5 ft 3 pockets than a CHF.

Lets take any player that we have that might be any good and play them down back. Hendo, Gibbs, Yarran, Watson, Jamo, might as well chuck Murph down there when he gets back. FFS. Is there some midget football league some where we can look to draft from? I cannot for the life of me understand some people on this sites aversion to having a CHF.

 

[blues4flag]

Lachie's already a very good CHB. Dare I say it, he's not far off AA form (an opinion that knowledgeable non-Carlton supporters share).

He's a competent CHF who presents well and could develop into a very good one in time, but he's too valuable in defence for mine. Our hands are tied a bit without Waite, Rowe and Thornton and we do perhaps need to develop another key forward. Mitchell shows promise but can't put all our eggs in that basket. I'm still a Hampson fan but feel he needs to be played closer to goal.

 

[T2B_]

Wherever he ends up playing, Lachie has shown he's a true KPP with ability and heart. He can play either forward or back and that is a great boon for us (thanks Lions).

I agree early on it seemed a bit backwards, with Lachie deep and Hampson further up. Lachie's strength, as he showed, is the lead up CHF. Basically he played the Waite lead up role and did it well. Thought he was one of the few forwards who could lead and reliably take a mark. We know what he can do in defense.

Really estatic we got him.

 

[mike ockerts]

Structural move due to Podsiadily being out of the side? Or should we expect to see more of him in the coming weeks?

From here I think we should be persisting with him playing forward. We don't have any lead up forwards which as a role Lachie can definitely play. I also don't think we can rely on Waite to be suiting up again anytime soon.

With Laidler on the way back and Watson/Duigan looking solid, perhaps we can get by without him.

I also don't think we can rely on Waite, time to start planning for jarred to not be there I feel, look Waite is a huge name at the CFC, but sometimes you have to make the tough calls in life, and the CFC did not do this by awarding him with a new three year contract, some will argue, but he is good when he plays, and, i think your writing him off to early, give him a chance to recover, the truth of the matter is, Waite is pushing 30 and injury prone, how do you plan for premiership tilt around that I ask? Injuries happen I know, that's part of the game, but for jarred they are to often and generally multiple weeks at a time.
So what do we do you say?
IMHO I would start playing Mitchell after our bye, yes he isn't ready i know, so stop your "you have no idea responses right now" :/
It's all about planning for not having Waite remember, what, if any games we get out of Waite can be played for him as a HFF.
My two cents

 

[Franc de Borges]

Prefer him in defence. Jamison and Henderson (with the appropriate support) need to become the cornerstone of our defence for the next five or so years. If we're to win a flag soon it will be with this set up.

I love Hendo, but I don't think he has the aggression and flair required for the CHF role.

 

[BlueTongue]

We need to build a premiership team around a strong spine. I say play watson for the rest of the year and let him develop into the CHB we drafted him to be. We have a gun FB in Jammo. This leaves the 2 forward posts. Even tho Lachie has played better footy @ CHB, he is also the only player beside waite who has shown he might be a CHF's areshole in the last 8 years. he took 6 marks tonight and did some nice things. he is only 22. not many 22CHF's play better than that consistently, and he has had no continuity in the position. I say keep him there and as soon as Mitchel is fit enough bring him in and let them develop into a damaging Duo, the same as Watto and Jammo down back.. We have tried to win a premiership by buying midfielders (judd, Mclean) and drafting them (the list is endless) the simple fact is midfielders are generally dime a dozen and we need to develop out young KPP's.

I say Watson is too slow to keep up with a good CHF like Reiwoldt/Cloke and they would run him into the ground. I'd like to see him at Full back and Jammo as the CHB as Jammo is a lot better at winning the ball and bringing it back into play the other direction. Having said that, Watson did pretty well last night i thought. And I agree he needs to stay in the side for the rest of the year

 

[gbatman]

Wa

I say Watson is too slow to keep up with a good CHF like Reiwoldt/Cloke and they would run him into the ground. I'd like to see him at Full back and Jammo as the CHB as Jammo is a lot better at winning the ball and bringing it back into play the other direction. Having said that, Watson did pretty well last night i thought. And I agree he needs to stay in the side for the rest of the year

Watson wouldn't play on them, Jamison would.

 

[Jabba73]

Waite was in AA form as a CHB before injury got him a couple of years ago. Would not be upset with swapping Henderson forward and using Waite in defence as a support to Watson and Jamison when he returns. Henderson can be the CHF we need for the next 8 years if we let him develop in the position. If Mitchell comes good we have the KPP depth we have been craving for so long.

 

[CarltonKid07]

I like the idea of the KPD swapping over from time to time to give each other breathers. Example if Henderson goes onto a Reiwoldt or Cloke he can swap with either Watson or Jamison for a breather. Therefore, leave Henderson down back and keep 3 Tall Defenders.

 

[CarltonKid07]

Btw, Watson as a forward?

 

[The Edukator]

We need to build a premiership team around a strong spine. I say play watson for the rest of the year and let him develop into the CHB we drafted him to be. We have a gun FB in Jammo. This leaves the 2 forward posts. Even tho Lachie has played better footy @ CHB, he is also the only player beside waite who has shown he might be a CHF's areshole in the last 8 years. he took 6 marks tonight and did some nice things. he is only 22. not many 22CHF's play better than that consistently, and he has had no continuity in the position. I say keep him there and as soon as Mitchel is fit enough bring him in and let them develop into a damaging Duo, the same as Watto and Jammo down back.. We have tried to win a premiership by buying midfielders (judd, Mclean) and drafting them (the list is endless) the simple fact is midfielders are generally dime a dozen and we need to develop out young KPP's.

really share these sentiments! we have defensive depth but are severely lacking up forward and i am not the biggest believer in Hampson being able to make it. i would really liek to see lachie developed up forward. he was drafted as a forward and its not like he has no idea how to play it. Im sure he will pick it up fast enough.

let our defensive depth develop especially with laidler coming back in to support jamo and watson. If necessary we can always throw hendson back to play against a side like hawthorn with buddy and roughhead who mandate 2 big defenders

 

[dumb]

will no doubt see jamison, henderson, watson all forward at some point. bower has already played there.
bower has already demonstrated though, if you have a bit of height it doesn't automatically make you a forward. i'm happy with horses for courses, it makes sense to try and balance our lack of a forward with a defender if the opposition has a late withdrawal. just don't expect miracles, these are guys always playing and training for defence.

 

[Silvagnis]

Think Watson has shown enough that Henderson will play as a lead up CHF. We're a better side with Henderson and Gibbs hitting up targets inside 50. The rest are butchering the ball. Hopefully McCarthys develop so we have more coverage for Watson, Henderson, Laidler, Bower and Jamison. Not a bad problem to have.

 

[KnobHead]

Nope, send him back as soon as we can get a gorilla to play forward...

Love his attack on the ball coming out of defence...

Herein lies the problem

Hendo's been great down back, but it's clear we lack influential talls up forward. Sure, he wasn't sensational last night, but he does take a quality opponent and he seems our best option up there. Needs a few games to settle.

Play him down back if you want to message to the opposition that we're more scared of losing the game than winning it, play him up forward if we want to message that we're here to win the game.

Hoping Mitchell may get a few games toward's years' end.

 

[Jimthegreat]

We all like Henderson in defence but circumstances don't allow that unfortunately. Circumstances/necessity also allow us to play and develop Watson at CHB, one of the few bright things at come out of a rotten pile of injuries. Have that work then with Waite back (one day). Henderson, Watson and Jammo and we may develop a spine.

 

[CarltonKid07]

With Henderson being our number 1 defender in recent times and having Watson proving hes AFL standard, can anyone see Jamison being a lead up marking forward? Wouldnt mind it being tested, like last year VS the Hawks