Hentschel sinks to a new low

[just maybe]

Arguably his worst game for the club? You thought he might fire up and turn in a good performance after all the flak he's copped. Shows some character. Instead he racked up 4 possessions and 1 mark. Stunning.

Watts has mongrel, dump Hentschel and play Watts. At least you know he will put in.

Trent's potential is going down the bloody drain, he is soft as butter. Doughty is soft? Sorry, but Hentschel has him beaten hands down on that one. He and McLeod last night pulled out of the hard contests, refused to chase and generally did sweet f-a.

This is probably why Trent was left to a club to rookie. He seems to lack ticker, for all his potential... (Ben Marsh...?)

 

[mickyj]

Arguably his worst game for the club? You thought he might fire up and turn in a good performance after all the flak he's copped. Shows some character. Instead he racked up 4 possessions and 1 mark. Stunning.

Watts has mongrel, dump Hentschel and play Watts. At least you know he will put in.

Trent's potential is going down the bloody drain, he is soft as butter. Doughty is soft? Sorry, but Hentschel has him beaten hands down on that one. He and McLeod last night pulled out of the hard contests, refused to chase and generally did sweet f-a.

This is probably why Trent was left to a club to rookie. He seems to lack ticker, for all his potential... (Ben Marsh...?)

Ok so we should drop trent and macleod next week ?

 

[just maybe]

Yes.

 

[Gets!]

No we should trade Macca.

 

[just maybe]

Who would take him and what would we get?

 

[Macca19]

Would be a Ronnie Burns situation. Youd be lucky to get a 2nd round draft pick for him and youd have to pay 3/4 of his salary still.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This is probably why Trent was left to a club to rookie. He seems to lack ticker, for all his potential... (Ben Marsh...?)

I'm of the same opinion until he starts to attack the ball as if his life depended on it - until now no evidence of this occurring

 

[outback jack]

Who would take him and what would we get?

Plenty of clubs would take him. Just cause he looks like he isnt trying doesnt mean he isnt. I agree with trent though, bit of agression wouldnt hurt. I like the attitude and commitment i see from bock better. Acually, going on tredreas preformances lately, he actually could be the next WT in a couple of seasons time. BTW, Ferg is no where near AFL CHF material atm.

 

[just maybe]

Would be a Ronnie Burns situation. Youd be lucky to get a 2nd round draft pick for him and youd have to pay 3/4 of his salary still.

Load of crap. McLeod is not comparable to bloody Ronnie Burns. Uusually you're thougtful but that's crap.

McLeod is still a marquee player and would command AT LEAST a top 10 pick.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Plenty of clubs would take him. Just cause he looks like he isnt trying doesnt mean he isnt. I agree with trent though, bit of agression wouldnt hurt. I like the attitude and commitment i see from bock better. Acually, going on tredreas preformances lately, he actually could be the next WT in a couple of seasons time. BTW, Ferg is no where near AFL CHF material atm.

I agree...But would it hurt to sit Watts in a FP??

 

[Gets!]

The power would need Macca, we'll have Chad Cornes and Damon White.

 

[Portmanteau]

McLeod is still a marquee player and would command AT LEAST a top 10 pick.

No he wouldn't. Not when he's what... 28 now? And can't replicate his form of previous years.

 

[Macca19]

Load of crap. McLeod is not comparable to bloody Ronnie Burns. Uusually you're thougtful but that's crap.

McLeod is still a marquee player and would command AT LEAST a top 10 pick.

Its not year 2000 anymore mate. Mcleods Marquee status has been on a steady decline over the past 2 and a half seasons and hes not in the top 50 players in the league anymore, let alone in the marquee top 10-20 status.

He'll be 29 at trade time, has a dodgy attitude, publicly made it known he sulks when moved from the midfield, alledged suspect knees, has played one good game this year, wouldnt be in the top 10 of your best and fairest, everyone on this board has given him numerous rockets over the past 2 years for not putting in anymore, would demand a 350-400k salary.

Please tell me what team in their right mind would give up a top 10 pick for that UNLESS a Ronnie Burns situation (im not comparing the players, just the situation that would occur) happens where the Crows would end up paying most of his salary.

Now look at the bottom 8 at the moment and who would trade a pick for him

Collingwood need young blood in the midfield, ditto Essendon, Hawthorn are going young and have plenty of midfielders, doubt he would suit Pagans Blues very well, Port need young in and unders not old recievers, he would be lost at Sydney with the way they play, Brisbane need young blood and the Bulldogs wouldnt suit him either.

Carlton and Bulldogs are the only chance there that would give up something for him and then I dont think they would give up a top 10 pick for him at the moment.

Unless some clubs are deluded and still think he is the most damaging game breaker in the league like he was 4 years ago then I doubt anyone would give up a 1st round pick for him...even more so if his current lack of form continues for the rest of the season.

You obviously disagree tho. So why would a club pay a top 10 pick for a player that turns 30 halfway thru next year and would demand a huge salary and hasnt performed in two seasons.

 

[Jerome]

I'm of the same opinion until he starts to attack the ball as if his life depended on it - until now no evidence of this occurring

I'm with you. I have never been a Henstchel fan. I have had concerns with Trent in regards to his intensity at the ball and the way he backs out of physical contests since the start of last year.

This element of his game has not improved - its gotten worse. I sit in the members up the north end around the 50 line. In the past two home games I have been frustrated by Trent because he does not support his teammates.

I keep seeing a Crows player make an effort to get the ball in a one on one contest at the wing/half forward and Trent just takes his time going in to help his mate.

He looks like he is about to jog past the contest but then gets there at the last moment before the ump blows the whistle. By the time TH gets there, his teammate has had two opponents to fend off. He is spared having to get in and get his hands dirty.

Why he is jogging in to help a team mate and not running in hard, I don't know. What I do know, is that it is unacceptable and it has to be addressed.

 

[just maybe]

You're right in some senses but there is a difference between what is demanded and whether any club will actually pay that. A second-round pick for Andrew McLeod is far too little.

Thing is, past performance still does carry a huge weight, as does name brand...even though we paid too much for Carey, he still would have commanded a high price wherever he went, despite sitting out one season and having a poor season before it. And despite all his own attitude and 'loyalty' issues.

Trade time is a funny thing, and McLeod would still command a high price despite relative (and it genunely is relative) lack of performance.

 

[Jerome]

You obviously disagree tho. So why would a club pay a top 10 pick for a player that turns 30 halfway thru next year and would demand a huge salary and hasnt performed in two seasons.

I agree with you Macca. And even if we did trade McLeod, I suspect we would still have to pay him. I think the Cats were paying for Ronnie while he was AFC (I could be wrong on that).

 

[outback jack]

I agree...But would it hurt to sit Watts in a FP??

definitely not i'd get him in a pocket straight away, or even a HHF he is far more agile than he was last yr (from the game i saw on the weekend). Basically need to leave perrie at CHF to have that strong body. Ferg cant play CHF for a long while i'm thinking. Ideally, if we had a strong forwards line i'd say he is two yrs off.

 

[just maybe]

He is not a FP though. He is a CHF. I think you're wrong about him not being able to play there. We've seen young players with skinny frames play CHF in recent years. Just depends on the player.

 

[outback jack]

He is not a FP though. He is a CHF. I think you're wrong about him not being able to play there. We've seen young players with skinny frames play CHF in recent years. Just depends on the player.

he could play a HHF very well, he did alot of work up the ground yesterday. That way Perrie or trent can play a little closer to goal. He isnt a strong contested mark so if we play him at CHF he will be murdered with he way we deliver it in. Theres no way NC will put him to CHF if hes going to be played at all.

 

[just maybe]

he could play a HHF very well, he did alot of work up the ground yesterday. That way Perrie or trent can play a little closer to goal. He isnt a strong contested mark so if we play him at CHF he will be murdered with he way we deliver it in. Theres no way NC will put him to CHF if hes going to be played at all.

Actually contested marking is his strength.

And what is a HHF?

 

[outback jack]

Actually contested marking is his strength.

And what is a HHF?

Did you watch him yesterday?? His agility for a man of his size was extremely good. He didnt present a strong marking target the numerous times it went in his direction, so he will struggle at afl level to present at all. This will improve as he gets bigger though.

and HHF is short for HFF .

 

[mickyj]

Well if we are talking youngsters knights has impressed me at wwt. So can i ask a dumb question ,why has Bock been playing in the backlines at SANFL level (playing some ok footy does have problems below his knees)and when he goes to the crows is played as a forward (i know he was drafted playing as a forward)? Fergus has been playing mainly in the backs as well tho yesterday at CHF in both spots he's been doing ok .

 

[Stiffy_18]

Apparently Knights copped a hit on the knee and thats why he didn't come back on for the Eagles. I am not sure how serious it is.

If Knights continues to play like he has in recent times, he will get a game sooner rather than later.

 

[F/D]

Hentschel for Petrie?

Thank you very much

 

[macca23]

I like the attitude and commitment i see from bock better. Acually, going on tredreas preformances lately, he actually could be the next WT in a couple of seasons time.

The abbreviation for Water Closet is WC, jack.

Get it right son.