Heppell suing Essendon

[RegHickeyStand]

Well he claimed on his first AFL 360 appearance that he knew exactly what he was taking and what was on those forms so who knows.

Is fact he knew also the reason why he didn't mention what he was taking to ASADA?

 

[tigs2010]

But but but his parents were in the march and he grew up an essendon fan and those in charge are now gone.

 

[J_Moore]

You've also got way too many Buddys and Tippetts...

thank you for telling my joke back to me.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

I would imagine the insurance company would argue that it is the player's responsibility to check what goes into their bodies. No one checked what thymosin type was being used through the correct channels and so their loss of reputation has been due to being found guilty of doping and that was due to the player's own ineptitude.
I would be arguing strongly as the insurer that I don't have to pay anything.

 

[OhhhhhCyril]

So the next captain in waiting Heppell is going take Essendon to court, and what then just comes back next season? Surly this has to be a sign he wants out?

 

[Newt Hoenikker]

I would imagine the insurance company would argue that it is the player's responsibility to check what goes into their bodies. No one checked what thymosin type was being used through the correct channels and so their loss of reputation has been due to being found guilty of doping and that was due to the player's own ineptitude.
I would be arguing strongly as the insurer that I don't have to pay anything.

It's an interesting dynamic and I think those people that believe that the insurer will simply roll over at the direction of the club are fools. Ultimately, the insurer controls the litigation, not the club.

At the end of the day, it will likely come down to whether the insurer elects to defend the action with a piece of wet lettuce and potentially pays out $30m plus or decides to play hard ball (contrary to the wishes of the club) and loses the premiums moving forward.

Despite what some may believe, insurers aren't in the business of paying out claims.

 

[jenny61_99]

Fair enough as there would be significant damage to his reputation and loss of income. I'd be surprised if the other players did not follow suit. I'd also be surprised if he left the club.

How can you sue the club and stay?

 

[Muggs]

Well he claimed on his first AFL 360 appearance that he knew exactly what he was taking and what was on those forms so who knows.

I certainly don't get that impression.

Even though the question was about the DCF the way he answered it talking about how they fully cooperated with ASADA from day 1 made it seem like to me he was talking about how he cooperated with the investigation. Not the day he pissed into a cup.

It's the same feeling I get pretty much when ever this gets asked to someone in the know its like everyone's been trained to deflect to how they helped and not talk about what they did wrong.

 

[I Remember Bluey]

How can you sue the club and stay?

Hold on a minute, I will ask jenny she is the resident authority on all things Essendon.

Oh wait......

 

[compact72]

Not sure how he can sue when he is appealing his decision

 

[Sector 7G]

Why is he suing the club when according to him they didn't do anything wrong?

 

[jenny61_99]

Hold on a minute, I will ask jenny she is the resident authority on all things Essendon.

Oh wait......

I asked the question because I can't honestly see how you could do that. I'm suing the Club for loss of earnings and reputation. Now I'm going to be their captain. What the?

 

[Feerits Elf]

Always have a laugh at the fact, that all these years this has been copy and pasted around the net I still haven't seen one person fix the whole "Gorilla warfare" thing. What have Gorillas done to us?

That's part of its charm.

 

[imperial_oz]

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Seems legit

 

[jenny61_99]

Why has this come now, do you think? Could they have heard the result of their appeal?

 

[Laphroaig]

Who are the other clubs who'd pay Heppell $1 million a year? He's way too short for us to consider it.

Carlton?

I'd be very pissed off if we did.

• Priority one is to hold Cripps and Weitering - 10 year leaders of the midfield and defence. It's a near certainty that both will be high cost players moving on.
• Hold Murphy Kreuzer and Gibbs as a core for the next generation through the middle to work with. Too easy for young players to be ruined if they carry all the weight. Couple of mature defenders for the same reason.
• Keep enough money in the war chest to ramp up contracts for the young players who prove themselves.

Paying Heppel gazillions to take a a few percent off the many defeats we have in front of us does not make sense.

 

[Adz]

Essendons fans silence says it all. He's gone.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

This can't be possible. I've been assured many times that Heppell is the future captain and loves the club. He grew up supporting them and idolizes James Hird.

Anyway,

 

[compact72]

Heppell might still go back to Essendon. Essendon have said they will accept him either way

 

[coryne]

Did not think of that, very interesting.

Surely it has to. If not , who is to say that the club hasnt instructed heppell to sue in order for them to legally give him a million dollar sweetener

Surely a club which undertook a club wide doping program (and the only club to break the salary cap in a premiership year) wouldn't do such a thing......

 

[Muggs]

Why has this come now, do you think? Could they have heard the result of their appeal?

Think it's more likely that the behind the scenes discussions have hit a stalemate and pressure is being applied to break it

 

[Linda Lovelace]

The salary cap elephant in the room is another reason player payments should be made public. It's a tricky issue because I oppose drug testing in part because it is an invasion of privacy and this certainly is that. But I would argue the speculation and generally understood figures reported about players mean that it is not far beyond what they experience already. Gun-toting Yanks worried about the King of England kicking their doors down have even grasped that it is necessary transparency.

In this case, if a bunch of Essendon players 'sue' Essendon but remain at Essendon then everyone would have some indication if something fishy was going on. Not a full idea - closed door 'salary' vs 'settlement' negotiations are still a major issue - but if it became apparent that Dyson Heppell and Hurley were getting paid 400k a year from Essendon while being offered 1 million elsewhere, even if the AFL tried to sweep it under the rug the entire country would know what has gone on.

 

[ScallyWag1]

Blonde hair ... has learned to play the legal system .... future Bomber captain

Dyson wouldn't be able to spell 'MBA' let alone pass one.

 

[coryne]

At times I just think maybe the club should cut ties get whatever picks they can for the 12 and go on from there.

Why would they be entitled to picks when they can leave as dfa .....

 

[STFU Donnie]

Players need to shout Danky a shandy at the front gate, three years of not having to perform, a lazy 12 months off, and a nice little fat payout to look after your missus and mistress

Genius Danky, such a generous lad.

Ah, the Hird remuneration model.