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Hit the Rhode Jack!
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- Wizard Cup, lets wait till the real season.
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Practice Game
- Apr 14, 2003
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QUOTE]Originally posted by sleek the elite
Peter Rohde is not the coach the Bulldogs need.I would be very interested to see others' opinions on this matter however please don't make this a slanging match. [/QUOTE]
I’m in trouble and have been censored by the authorities so I’m no longer able to express my views.
My best mates sisters second cousin agrees with the above though, but then again she new it was "BLEEDING" obvious that an assistant to an assistant coach should have never coached an AFL side.
Once again they are her views and under the big footy copyright law 2098877 wish to express that they are not my views.
I think she also believes that our fans have to round 7 to make up our mind, by then we will have 15000 members and to quote somebody be a very "WEAK CLUB"
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In the first seven games of the season, which is about a third of the season the Bulldogs play West Coast,Collingwood, Melbourne, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Kangaroos and Essendon.
If the Bulldogs are zero wins and seven losses or no better than one win and six losses, it's definitely time for a change of coach, since the season will be over for us by then anyway.
Someone else has two thirds of a season to try and get the team playing aggressve, accountable football, so that 2005 is not wasted as well.
If the Bulldogs are zero wins and seven losses or no better than one win and six losses, it's definitely time for a change of coach, since the season will be over for us by then anyway.
Someone else has two thirds of a season to try and get the team playing aggressve, accountable football, so that 2005 is not wasted as well.
God this is getting boring.
It's a practice match which, under normal rules, we lost by 15 points yet you're already calling for his head.
Last year, Port lost every pre-season game they played (including one against us) yet they won the minor premiership.
In 2000, when Essendon won every game bar one, they lost every pre-season game.
Last year, we were absolutely flogged by Geelong first up, yet they were one of two teams we beat in the season proper...and we did it twice!!!
It wasn't that impressive, but there were clear positives to come from the match. If we lose the first seven matches, then fine, call for Rohde's head then. It is absolutely pointless to do it now. We've heard it 100 times and if we sack a coach now then we'll ruin a perfectly positive pre-season (news wise) and destroy our membership drive. Give it a rest for god's sake.
It's a practice match which, under normal rules, we lost by 15 points yet you're already calling for his head.
Last year, Port lost every pre-season game they played (including one against us) yet they won the minor premiership.
In 2000, when Essendon won every game bar one, they lost every pre-season game.
Last year, we were absolutely flogged by Geelong first up, yet they were one of two teams we beat in the season proper...and we did it twice!!!
It wasn't that impressive, but there were clear positives to come from the match. If we lose the first seven matches, then fine, call for Rohde's head then. It is absolutely pointless to do it now. We've heard it 100 times and if we sack a coach now then we'll ruin a perfectly positive pre-season (news wise) and destroy our membership drive. Give it a rest for god's sake.
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I think that is a fair call, after about a 3rd of season with the improved playing list he has available to him is about the right time to pass judgement on his performance.
If the team is three wins and four losses then you would probably have to review it again mid season.
If the team is one win and six losses then a hard decision might have to be made.
I don't want to see us in a crisis again and the news that this sort of thing would generate could undo all the progress we have made off the field over the last two seasons. Equally I don't want to go through another season like last and if the coach is the primary cause then we may have to suffer the embarrassment of installing an interim coach before reviewing it again at the end of the season.
OldSchool
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Agreed
Well said, it seems a number of people are trying to preempt another club crisis but are failing to acknowledge the possible impacts.
- Apr 14, 2003
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Yeah our membeship drive
The same membeship drive that sees a side which finised 14th last year have 60% more members than us.The roos have 40% members than the dogs we cant wreck it because unless we win games or show some improvement we wont have "Jack" members.
Its simple people sign up when sides "WIN"
QUOTE]Originally posted by OldSchool
Agreed
Well said, it seems a number of people are trying to preempt another club crisis but are failing to acknowledge the possible impacts. [/QUOTE]
You want impact oldschool try this
1-6 and 15k members
Now thats impact
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My god gnome, if people did what you say "sign up when sides win" do you think we would still have a club to support? No didnt think so.
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Garbage, last season we were 1-6 with or close to our record membership, Our fans aren't like that
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In all fairness, since 2001 onwards, they have never really set out to win the preseason, a fact that Sheady has made known before most Pre Season comps.
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Anth / Gnome etc
I am a Freo supporter and have been since inception.
You may not know it but you are creating a self-fufiling prophecy of doom.
Your club has done the right thing taking Cooney and Ray is akin to us taking Pavlich and Haselby .....you have taken a step forward.
You have lost 1 (I repeat) 1 wizard cup game and you have your most influential player to come back into the team in grant and a few class running players.
Why put pressure on the club now, be disappointed yes but in all honesty do you think setting a timeframe on when the coach should be sacked is being a supporter or a knocker?
Shaun McManus gave a telling interview last year where he stated in the dark days he could feel the fans literally waiting for him to stuff up ....miss kick and the groans would come. He was almost hoping not to get the ball ...now with the sun shining and the fan abse behind him, he is consistently able to hit a target.
You have to rally behind your club ....in my view Carlton are in a worse position. Go for it, encourage the club to make the hard decisions if the season isnt a success.
However as a West Aussie in Ray you got a kid who can play, sounds like Cooney is class (but they wont do it for you for another 2 - 3 years). Grant will help a lot.
Even if you had lost 7 games, the negativity that is portrayed in parts of this post will hurt you as it hurt us. Recruit young and support hard.
Good luck and to those guys showing the positivity and constructive side of criticism ....keep it up, you will get there.
I am a Freo supporter and have been since inception.
You may not know it but you are creating a self-fufiling prophecy of doom.
Your club has done the right thing taking Cooney and Ray is akin to us taking Pavlich and Haselby .....you have taken a step forward.
You have lost 1 (I repeat) 1 wizard cup game and you have your most influential player to come back into the team in grant and a few class running players.
Why put pressure on the club now, be disappointed yes but in all honesty do you think setting a timeframe on when the coach should be sacked is being a supporter or a knocker?
Shaun McManus gave a telling interview last year where he stated in the dark days he could feel the fans literally waiting for him to stuff up ....miss kick and the groans would come. He was almost hoping not to get the ball ...now with the sun shining and the fan abse behind him, he is consistently able to hit a target.
You have to rally behind your club ....in my view Carlton are in a worse position. Go for it, encourage the club to make the hard decisions if the season isnt a success.
However as a West Aussie in Ray you got a kid who can play, sounds like Cooney is class (but they wont do it for you for another 2 - 3 years). Grant will help a lot.
Even if you had lost 7 games, the negativity that is portrayed in parts of this post will hurt you as it hurt us. Recruit young and support hard.
Good luck and to those guys showing the positivity and constructive side of criticism ....keep it up, you will get there.
same game plan? in what way?
I dont think we lacked endevour, the impression I got was more of confusion.
no acountability whatsoever? dont agree. they got some easy goals through disgraceful turnovers, but its a simple fact that a defender cant be making a forward move in one part of the ground, and be minding his man simultaneously. if the ball comes screaming back the other way 3 seconds after he has disposed, due to a midfield turnover, he will be caught out.
- Apr 14, 2003
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We had a new coach and supposedly a new beginning and weren’t that bad the year before.
The media also got on our bandwagon, the footy show gave us a great run and we required a new sponsor.
We have played those cards what do we do this year
The reality is that Richmond has 19000 members this year (only had 2000 members more than us last year) North have 15000 we had about the same as them last year.
We have 9000 members, its is obvious that our fans have had enough
I do think the Dogs will improve in the H&A but IMO it was huge mistake signing Rhode to a three year deal. Proven players are finding it hard to get these and yet an unproven coach was handed one.
Signing Rhode to an automatic three year deal means that even if he fails this year and is sacked, he will still have to be paid out the rest of his contract. For a team that is struggling financially, this doesn't exactly seem a smart move.
Signing Rhode to an automatic three year deal means that even if he fails this year and is sacked, he will still have to be paid out the rest of his contract. For a team that is struggling financially, this doesn't exactly seem a smart move.
I wouldnt worry about paying him out, it will cost about $3.50 on his wage,
but seriously, what are you guys expecting at this stage of the year from them? I want to see him stick to his guns with the gameplan, and I want to see incremental improvement from week to week in executing that plan from the players.
last night I saw long kicking, I saw moving the ball quickly through the corridor, I saw tackling through the midfield. I saw 2 kicks to every handball.
I also saw terrible turnovers, haphazard and predictable kicking into the forward line and a much harder midfield beating us up around the packs. OK, we work on that.
what I didnt see was the ball travelling around the boundary to a succession of guys leading to the outer wing for an easy kick. I didnt see a handball fest desperately trying to get the ball to a guy running in space before kicking the ball. I didnt see the ball carrier holding up the play, allowing the defenders to flood back because he couldnt spot up an easy option.
We have to judge last nights performance on factors other than the score, and in terms of game plan I liked what I saw. In terms of execution we sucked but at this stage of the year, thats nowhere near as importnat.
but seriously, what are you guys expecting at this stage of the year from them? I want to see him stick to his guns with the gameplan, and I want to see incremental improvement from week to week in executing that plan from the players.
last night I saw long kicking, I saw moving the ball quickly through the corridor, I saw tackling through the midfield. I saw 2 kicks to every handball.
I also saw terrible turnovers, haphazard and predictable kicking into the forward line and a much harder midfield beating us up around the packs. OK, we work on that.
what I didnt see was the ball travelling around the boundary to a succession of guys leading to the outer wing for an easy kick. I didnt see a handball fest desperately trying to get the ball to a guy running in space before kicking the ball. I didnt see the ball carrier holding up the play, allowing the defenders to flood back because he couldnt spot up an easy option.
We have to judge last nights performance on factors other than the score, and in terms of game plan I liked what I saw. In terms of execution we sucked but at this stage of the year, thats nowhere near as importnat.
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9000 members do we gnome, mmm thats news to me. For your information we have 10,000 paid up members now, 600 of these signed up last monday alone, and there is still a whole heap that are on layby(including my 4).
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In fact Gnome, we are a long way ahead of last year in terms of membership and one average performance (average...not POOR) isn't going to slow it down anywhere near as much as sacking a coach and throwing the year away. Give him till half way through the season. I still say Round 7 is still too early. Look at 2002 - we had 6 losses and 1 win and then halfway through the season we were 6-6. If it's a disaster then and there is no obvious improvement, then I'd say most on this board will agree with you.
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I agree 100% Moo. It's far too soon to be predicting doom and gloom. Give the guys a break, they still have to regain the confidence they lost last season and they need us to be behind them. We have to believe they can do it if they are to believe it too.
In spite of the loss, there were a lot of positives to come out of the game with many players showing flashes of the form we hope will become more consistent, eg my ''trifecta" of favourite players - Bubba, Sammy and Boydie.
Farren Ray is going to be an amazing player.
And what about Westy and Johnno - never less than fantastic.
OldSchool
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Yes Moo's assessment was spot on.
Ray did look good, I was sitting near Scott Clayton last night and he must have been pleased with his selection. Cooney will be good once he gets over some nerves etc.
No problems with any of the Stooges favourite players of Smith, Johnson and West. Always have a red hot go.
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Good constructive criticism, which I can handle
One point
This crap that all the clubs say they are ahead of membership is a falcy. Certain clubs including ours give away prizes and bonuses for signing up early which is a recent idea
The membership tally should read 15k current members and 3k new members as of December. Than we can have a better idea and a more honest tally
I personally believe we did a lot of harm to our membership campaign on Friday night hopefully that can be rectified.
I can fill in for Gnome i think Stefoid.
I expected us to be more accountable. I expected Nathon Brown to still be playing for us (we all know he only left because of Rhode). We should have been sticking to this so called new game plan, which we havent done ever since Rhode arrived. Also I expect Rhode to be sacked.
Wow that was hard work. ok i can stop being Gnome now. Phew.
I expected us to be more accountable. I expected Nathon Brown to still be playing for us (we all know he only left because of Rhode). We should have been sticking to this so called new game plan, which we havent done ever since Rhode arrived. Also I expect Rhode to be sacked.
Wow that was hard work. ok i can stop being Gnome now. Phew.
