Hows Nathan Brown training

[Embers]

Seeing as there both twins im curious to know how similiar they are in there development. Mitch Brown over here is built like a tank already and is gonna be a real power forward when hes done. Even though hes added so much bulk he still hasnt lost any pace either. How about the other Brown (the less talented one )

 

[Red Karl]

Seeing as there both twins im curious to know how similiar they are in there development. Mitch Brown over here is built like a tank already and is gonna be a real power forward when hes done. Even though hes added so much bulk he still hasnt lost any pace either. How about the other Brown (the less talented one )

The Melbourne one or the Richmond one

 

[FIGJAM]

Ya can see Nate Monster in some of these images:

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/so...|0|0|72999625|0|0|0|0|0|||0|0|0|0|0&p=7&tag=5

The boys are looking fit!

 

[goalpie]

Brown and Dawes look like big kids. How come there arnt any of Ben Reid.

 

[Embers]

Ya can see Nate Monster in some of these images:

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/so...|0|0|72999625|0|0|0|0|0|||0|0|0|0|0&p=7&tag=5

The boys are looking fit!

Yeh Mitch Brown has a pretty similar physique. Both monsters already it seems. Nathan looks taller though. Both are gonna be powerhouses in a few years time I think. THere bodies were built to put muscle on

 

[FIGJAM]

Brown and Dawes look like big kids. How come there arnt any of Ben Reid.

I dunno. The photographer seems to have some homo-erotic infatuation with Mcaffer, Cookie and Nichols!

 

[Coin_Toss]

Seeing as there both twins im curious to know how similiar they are in there development. Mitch Brown over here is built like a tank already and is gonna be a real power forward when hes done. Even though hes added so much bulk he still hasnt lost any pace either. How about the other Brown (the less talented one )

Nathan is a defender from what I've seen, we may well see (N) Brown V (M) Brown... if you get my drift. He's mobile enough to play back and forward, so I guess that's a positive. And he doesn't shirk in the contests.

 

[Soups]

I dunno. The photographer seems to have some homo-erotic infatuation with Mcaffer, Cookie and Nichols!

Exactly what i thought when i was looking at the pics There was like 3 in a row of Mcaffer with his shirt off i was like wtf is this go on???

 

[FIGJAM]

I'd like to have Mcaff's body fat %ge, but a little too many photos would mean I'd want his body.....and it ain't that kinda party!

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Seeing as there both twins im curious to know how similiar they are in there development. Mitch Brown over here is built like a tank already and is gonna be a real power forward when hes done. Even though hes added so much bulk he still hasnt lost any pace either. How about the other Brown (the less talented one )

20m Sprint:
Nathan Brown - 3rd at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - Didn't make Top 10

Repeat Sprints:
Nathan Brown - 6th at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - 9th at Draft Camp

U/18 All-Australian Selection
Nathan Brown - Named at Full Back
Mitch Brown - Not selected

Sorry, but the best thing Mitch Brown has going for him is that he has the potential to eventually be as good as Nathan

 

[Magik]

20m Sprint:
Nathan Brown - 3rd at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - Didn't make Top 10

Repeat Sprints:
Nathan Brown - 6th at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - 9th at Draft Camp

U/18 All-Australian Selection
Nathan Brown - Named at Full Back
Mitch Brown - Not selected

Sorry, but the best thing Mitch Brown has going for him is that he has the potential to eventually be as good as Nathan

Interesting stats... More often than not, twins tend to match each other in every aspect and its really only their mind set that seperates them. CLearly the Brown boys have many differences and the Pies got their hands on the better one I feel. Only time will tell....

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Usually one twin is slightly better than the other.

Ryan Lonie is slightly better than Nathan, Adam Selwood is slightly better than Troy, Darryl Wakelin is slightly better than Shane (although I know I'll get howled down for that one).

It's not a significant gap, but it exists - Despite the fact that they are identical twins, most, if not all recruiters would have had Nathan slightly ahead of Mitch on their draft boards.

I was actually just thinking to myself that if we had done a Pick #16 + Rosa/Fletcher deal with West Coast for Tarrant, we could have ended up with Mitch AND Nathan... Interesting to think about - You could say we wouldn't take both because they're too similar, but one's a forward and one's a backman, so they could probably play together without much fuss.

 

[Jabso]

The draft picks would suggest Nathan Lonie was rated higher than Ryan at that stage.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

How do you figure?

Ryan Lonie went at pick #34, and Nathan Lonie went at pick #58.

 

[Jabso]

Oh ok I always thought it was the other way around.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Oh ok I always thought it was the other way around.

You're probably thinking of early career form. Nathan definitely started off better than Ryan in the first year or two.

 

[Lynch takes a mark]

20m Sprint:
Nathan Brown - 3rd at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - Didn't make Top 10

Repeat Sprints:
Nathan Brown - 6th at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - 9th at Draft Camp

U/18 All-Australian Selection
Nathan Brown - Named at Full Back
Mitch Brown - Not selected

Sorry, but the best thing Mitch Brown has going for him is that he has the potential to eventually be as good as Nathan

maybe mitch just didnt excel at the 20m time, nathan had been chasing down a lead from full back most of the year.

I feel the repeated sprint times are much closer represented to actual game speed. When do you ever see a forward or defender only make a single lead and give up (apart from Rocca ) and in that test i think there was less than 1% between them - nothing.

Mitch at training last Friday was marginally faster than Hunter, lynch and Mackenzie in speed work so I think that his straight line pace is definitely not an issue add that to his 14.5 beep test (Lynch 13.9) and you have a very athletic and physical key forward

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

maybe mitch just didnt excel at the 20m time, nathan had been chasing down a lead from full back most of the year.

I feel the repeated sprint times are much closer represented to actual game speed. When do you ever see a forward or defender only make a single lead and give up (apart from Rocca ) and in that test i think there was less than 1% between them - nothing.

Mitch at training last Friday was marginally faster than Hunter, lynch and Mackenzie in speed work so I think that his straight line pace is definitely not an issue add that to his 14.5 beep test (Lynch 13.9) and you have a very athletic and physical key forward

I am in no way suggesting that Mitch isn't talented, but if you'll notice the OP suggested that Nathan was the less talented one, when documented evidence would suggest that exactly the opposite is true if anything.

 

[toommy]

You're probably thinking of early career form. Nathan definitely started off better than Ryan in the first year or two.

no way ryan was buy far the better of the two early on and still is

 

[Lynch takes a mark]

Ya can see Nate Monster in some of these images:

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/so...|0|0|72999625|0|0|0|0|0|||0|0|0|0|0&p=7&tag=5

The boys are looking fit!

here's a photo of Mich at training last friday.

both going to be very decent sized units when they finish growing !

 

[Bay Pie]

here's a photo of Mich at training last friday.

both going to be very decent sized units when they finish growing !

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Yeh, good work Weagles.

Keep him in good nick for his return home in 2 years to join his brother.

 

[didaka]

From what i know about the Brown's i reckon that boy will be a Pies player soon enough.

 

[TOA.]

20m Sprint:
Nathan Brown - 3rd at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - Didn't make Top 10

Repeat Sprints:
Nathan Brown - 6th at Draft Camp
Mitch Brown - 9th at Draft Camp

U/18 All-Australian Selection
Nathan Brown - Named at Full Back
Mitch Brown - Not selected

Sorry, but the best thing Mitch Brown has going for him is that he has the potential to eventually be as good as Nathan

I have a feeling this Nathan v Mitch contest might be a hot issue over the next few years

Just afew things, I know of afew scouts that rate Mitch ahead of Nathan. And alot more who did prior to the draft camp results where obviously Nathan excelled (Mitch wasnt poor either mind). Most rated them from 20-30 with them not being seperated by more than 2-3 spots (IIRC Wiz rates them at 30/31 - Nath slightly ahead).

On the DC results, apparantly there is some conjecture over both the Brown's results (I know Wiz has alluded to this aswell). The times just dont add up. Also not many would know this but Nathan's result of the 2.91 was ALOT better than his 2 other efforts which were marginally better that Mitch's (we are talking no difference in reality). Both are athletic lads but I would suggest that Mitch is a 3sec for 20m type and Mitch 3.03sec for 20m type. Thats what testing from earlier in the year would suggest aswell.

Secondly, this will be interesting for us to gauge the developing skills of the respective clubs. I am supremely confident in WC's development program. I think we bring up and nurture talent aswell as any club in the leauge. Will be interesting to see how they turn out in comparision.

Having said all that, I too would have Nathan ahead of Mitch but barely. From what I know, we did just prefer Nathan over Mitch but once again the difference was considered marginal.

FWIW, Mitch took 3-4 marks at CHF in a 15min scratch match last week (which I saw). He's looking very handy.

 

[FIGJAM]

20 metre times are the most overrated stats presented.

Granted, to be able to hit a sub 3 second run means you aren't going to have McGough-esque issues at AFL level, but it's not the be all and end all of pace on a footy field and it's always just accepting your best run which might have other influences afecting it anyway.

We want our next Wakelin and despite the fact that Mitch might end up a defender, we know Nathan will be a KP defender (barring injuries).

So long as Mitch is capable of opening a gap against the best AFL defenders, and so long as Nathan is capable of staying inches away from the best leading forwards is all that sprint results need to indicate.

I have read Wiz's report on Ben Ried (which stated that he wouldn't have drafted him) and he basically canes the fact that Ried ran such a killer time, sighting inferior results in the past. But he is capable of that time, and times thereabouts. And when you watch him on a footy field, he moves with the play as fast as any midfielder going forwards or backwards (unusual for a 196cm bloke). I can appreciate Wiz's concerns re. position at AFL level (ie. will he be the new Kepler?), but worying about Ried's genuine pace is unnecessary.

And that I think that's the crux of the issue when it comes to draft camp results; are they athletically capable for their mooted AFL role? A sub 3 second best time looks pretty, but if they are getting an average in the very low 3's, then they're quick enough (esp if 194/196 cms) and it should come back to footy ability and if even, then pick for need.

 

[Lockyer24]

From what i know about the Brown's i reckon that boy will be a Pies player soon enough.

We need to get over the Family fixation and just recruit whatever good players we can get

After the Cloke debacle some people still want to create a team of 5 families combined