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Clay Davis

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Clay Davis said:
This week the old firm from Hawthorn said they were on the verge of greatness.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/hawthorn-on-verge-of-greatness-20120927-26o2l.html

For years we've heard about the Hawthorn threat, how they're the best team going round. Yet again, they fell short. Hubris.
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Been a few years since Chairman Jeff proclaimed a dynasty based on mental toughness .... a bit like claims of a Pie dynasty ... Di Nasty in the front office, hubris in the midfield.
 
They stole one in 2008 so this makes up for it I guess.
 
Very Essendon like 'era' from Hawthorn, not sure if 93 or 99 is the better comparator. One premiership is never a disappointment but it will feel like it in years to come.
 
I actually had two Hawthorn supporters in unrelated situations come up to me in the last week and explain what a champion side 'because we've won two flags with this side'. Yes, they were assuming they already had it won this year. :confused:

That sort of arrogance cannot make you popular. As an old Geelong supporter, I'm glad that I learned very well how it feels to lose a GF before I had to handle winning a few. Hopefully a few younger Hawks supporters learned a lesson or two today.
 
Had to laugh at Rohan Connolly's article today on the rise as Hawthorn being a power in the 'equalization' era. He failed to mention that from 1960 to 1980, they were gifted a zone 3 times the size of any in the VFL.

Just an overrated club who has entitlement issues.
 
volcboy said:
I actually had two Hawthorn supporters in unrelated situations come up to me in the last week and explain what a champion side 'because we've won two flags with this side'. Yes, they were assuming they already had it won this year. :confused:

That sort of arrogance cannot make you popular. As an old Geelong supporter, I'm glad that I learned very well how it feels to lose a GF before I had to handle winning a few. Hopefully a few younger Hawks supporters learned a lesson or two today.
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Fair point, in actuallity I agree with you.

But... in all fairness I heard a number of Geelong fans say how they were looking forward to the prelim match-up with Hawthorn this year before they played Fremantle.

I think there's always going to be a few in every crowd.
 
livnixon9 said:
Had to laugh at Rohan Connolly's article today on the rise as Hawthorn being a power in the 'equalization' era. He failed to mention that from 1960 to 1980, they were gifted a zone 3 times the size of any in the VFL.

Just an overrated club who has entitlement issues.
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yeah mostly our ****ing zone
 

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Bloodstained Bomber said:
So PavforAA is Patrick Smith.
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I'm not Pav4AA

Let's be honest. There has not been a club more in love with itself than Hawthorn these past five years. The fact they have underperformed is entirely related to their own hubris.
 
It's a consistent theme with this club.

I'll never forget 2010 when their fans were planning for the 2nd week game against Geelong as if it was a forgone conclusion before they'd even flown over here to face us.

Not just the fans either - for Clarkson to come out after we eliminated them and claim there were a lot of clubs who were relieved to see them out just smacked of a club who spends too much time drinking their own bath water.
 
volcboy said:
I actually had two Hawthorn supporters in unrelated situations come up to me in the last week and explain what a champion side 'because we've won two flags with this side'. Yes, they were assuming they already had it won this year. :confused:

That sort of arrogance cannot make you popular. As an old Geelong supporter, I'm glad that I learned very well how it feels to lose a GF before I had to handle winning a few. Hopefully a few younger Hawks supporters learned a lesson or two today.
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Speaking as a hawthorn supporter, not I, nor any hawthorn supporters that I know personally, were going into today's game confident of a victory.

There's always some supporters who will talk up their team's chances beyond a reasonable level, and hopefully they've learned something today.
 

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Cicatriz said:
1 flag in 21 seasons.
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Yes, it is disappointing and you have every right to enjoy Geelongs superior record in that time.

10 flags in 52 years is not bad though (9 in my lifetime, I am still glad I chose Hawthorn, even though Sydney were too good for us today).
 
estibador said:
It's a consistent theme with this club.

I'll never forget 2010 when their fans were planning for the 2nd week game against Geelong as if it was a forgone conclusion before they'd even flown over here to face us.

Not just the fans either - for Clarkson to come out after we eliminated them and claim there were a lot of clubs who were relieved to see them out just smacked of a club who spends too much time drinking their own bath water.
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This.

Absurdly arrogant club that deserves this loss and more losses like it.
 
Books said:
Yes, it is disappointing and you have every right to enjoy Geelongs superior record in that time.

10 flags in 52 years is not bad though (9 in my lifetime, I am still glad I chose Hawthorn, even though Sydney were too good for us today).
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isnt it funny how all fans tend to dial in, a particular time line , to suit their argument. we all do it but it does get tiresome.
 
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