Hypocrisy of The Left

[Lebbo73]

Party operations probably arent a lot different from each other. The parties themselves currently seem quite far apart. I guess this is the first Tea Party nutcase Gument we've had, so we're bound to notice the difference.

This govt is nothing like the Tea Party. I support a lot of Tea Party policies and they are miles apart really.

 

[Jiska]

Afghanistan was in direct response to a state sanctioned attack on our closest ally, and the PM invoked the ANZUS treaty. That country condoned and supported the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Despite the Rhetoric of many, the USA are our friends, and it was a heinous crime that was perpetrated on them. The actual reason for our being there got lost when Iraq started.

Agreed on the reasoning behind your stance on Iraq.

RE Afghanistan; the US went to the UN and requested permission to invade and they were knocked back. The US subsequently invaded a country's sovereignty, bombed the crap out of towns and villages and killed a stack of innocent civilians. Why?

I believe that many of the reasons for going in to Iraq hold firm in Afghanistan too. The Taliban were installed by the US in the first place as the US was worried about Communist influence in the country. Afghanistan was the scene of a less-publisised battleground for the Cold War. The United States wanted the Taliban gone for most of the 90's following the fall of the USSR as the Taliban turned against the US and didn't support US interests. It's my opinion that they used 9/11 as an excuse to remove the Taliban from power, pure and simple. It was a strategic removal of a problematic foreign Government/power/whatever you want to call it. Pakistan is hardly the greatest ally of the US and they were harbouring Bin Laden as well, but we didn't invade that country and take it over. Pakistan condone and support hundreds of terrorist acts, albeit not those the grand scale of 9/11 and they have plenty of terrorist training centres, as do Indonesia. Russia falls in to a similar category.

The US Government had to be seen by its citizens to take action following the 9/11 attacks and make someone, anyone, pay for the loss of lives on American soil. Invading Afghanistan was more about removing a problem they had in a hostile anti-US dictatorship whilst at the same time placating their own citizens and showcasing to the world America's military might.

 

[madmug]

This govt is nothing like the Tea Party. I support a lot of Tea Party policies and they are miles apart really.

Should really be called the Red Neck Nutters Party.

 

[Lebbo73]

Should really be called the Red Neck Nutters Party.

Why? Because they believe in paying back debt and living within your means, not interfering in foreign affairs unless it is a threat to the US, not propping up your favourite interest groups, lower taxes, etc etc.

 

[scon]

YGBFK

 

[B4Bear]

Why? Because they believe in paying back debt and living within your means, not interfering in foreign affairs unless it is a threat to the US, not propping up your favourite interest groups, lower taxes, etc etc.

Except if you are gay and want to get married, a Muslim who wants to wear a head covering or a student in a secular school who wants nothing to do with chaplains or in a due-facto relationship that doesn't want advice from that ******** Kevin Andrews.

Apart from that they are great, for a bunch of missing link throwbacks.

 

[madmug]

Except if you are gay and want to get married, a Muslim who wants to wear a head covering or a student in a secular school who wants nothing to do with chaplains or in a due-facto relationship that doesn't want advice from that ******** Kevin Andrews.

Apart from that they are great, for a bunch of missing link throwbacks.

Dont forget about the gun in every pocket, the US is happy with a few school massacres & thousands of drive past shootings each year. The TP want to keep those wonderful traditions going.

 

[Lebbo73]

Except if you are gay and want to get married, a Muslim who wants to wear a head covering or a student in a secular school who wants nothing to do with chaplains or in a due-facto relationship that doesn't want advice from that ******** Kevin Andrews.

Apart from that they are great, for a bunch of missing link throwbacks.

It is good to see you picked the pressing issues to criticise.

 

[B4Bear]

It is good to see you picked the pressing issues to criticise.

If you live in a society, they are important.

If you live in the LNP's version of dystopia, then they don't matter so much.

Good to see you deflect real concerns to real people. Thus do the right flourish.....look over there a unicorn.

 

[LanceRomance]

This govt is nothing like the Tea Party. I support a lot of Tea Party policies and they are miles apart really.

Agreed.

Dont know where the comparison came from.

Just fear mongering I guess.

 

[Floor Pie]

Agreed.

Dont know where the comparison came from.

Just fear mongering I guess.

You're right, that is where a lot of the comparison comes from.
The Liberals and the IPA do a metric shit ton of fear mongering over similar issues.

 

[LanceRomance]

You're right, that is where a lot of the comparison comes from.
The Liberals and the IPA do a metric shit ton of fear mongering over similar issues.

Such as left = must love stalin?

 

[Floor Pie]

Such as left = must love stalin?

 

[letstayunited]

Our current Government have their work cut out for them trying to fix the mess created by the hopelessly incompetent and corrupt Labour Government.

So far they have made unpopular, courageous decisions that were not based on self interest but rather than on the best interests of the Nation as a whole.

As for Gough Whitlam, he created the age of entitlement/dole bludger mentality that our current Government is still trying to fight.

 

[letstayunited]

Could the OP actually describe what a 'Leftist' is? I consider my self to be left leaning, no doubt about it, and proud of it.
Does that mean I support everything every other left leaning person says? No way.
For example:
1. I believe in a strong and well equipped ADF, including the 12.5 Billion being used for the new JSF.
2. I believe in the same rule of law being applied to everyone, including refugees and those accused of terrorism, both here and abroad.
3. I believe in the right of the sate of Israel to exist.
4. I believe the Palestinian people have the right to their own homeland.
5. I believe that Islamic Fundamentalism should be fought, root and branch, regardless of where it is found.
6. I believe that we should have gone into Afghanistan.
7. I believe we should not have gone into Iraq.
8. I believe Australia should abide by our international treaties, including those regarding refugees.
9. I believe the anti-association laws in Queensland are a blight on that state.
10. I believe in a strong safety net for the less fortunate in our country.
11. I believe in medicare and oppose the co-payment because user pays medical treatment is a model that entrenches disadvantage.
12. I believe there is a place for well-organised unions in this country, and that illegal tactics should suffer the full force of the law.
13. I believe that corruption, in all its forms, should never be condoned, regardless of who it is.
14. I believe that mining companies get a free ride with regard to the 'total' amount of tax/royalties they pay.
15. I believe in free education for all children and heavily subsidised further education.
16. I believe that companies should be forced to train apprentices in the areas where those skills are used.

Now it seems to me that the short (so to speak) list above crosses the divide of left and right issues.
Thus anyone who decides (like the OP) that all things left (or right) for that matter is bad is just a fool, who has as much depth as a sheet of A4 paper.

Good point very well made. Very few people can be categorised as either "left" or "right". You have some characteristics of both sides but I would agree you are left leaning. I have characteristics of both but consider myself to be right leaning.

I certainly don't believe in a strong and well equipped ADF or that we should have gone into Afghanistan, but I don't believe in heavily subsidised further education nor do I oppose the co-payment.

This is despite spending ten years in the military and having a law degree. Go figure mate.

 

[Jiska]

nor do I oppose the co-payment

This is despite spending ten years in the military and having a law degree. Go figure mate.

Suppose you can afford the co-payment then

 

[corbomite]

Eww, that should come with a warning.

 

[scon]

Eww, that should come with a warning.

Like life;or supporting a footy team.
Once you're in you're gaaaaawwwrrrrrnnnnn.

 

[Collingwood pro]

Each side needs each other. It would be boring if everyone agreed with each other.

 

[Floor Pie]

Each side needs each other. It would be boring if everyone agreed with each other.

No it wouldn't.

 

[Schache It Off]

Just thought it be funny for those of us to post the irrational logic the left use.
This is not a place for debate, just a bit of political humor.
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/222/958/lib.jpg

 

[Schache It Off]

To those leftists who believe capitalism and all corporations are evil but still use their services on a daily basis.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Liberal_f5864c_2703819.jpeg

 

[little graham]

To those leftists who believe capitalism and all corporations are evil but still use their services on a daily basis.

tell this to a black fellah

 

[Floor Pie]

Who are "leftists"?

 

[little graham]

Who are "leftists"?

the ones who arn't right about anything