Hypothetical - The "What if ........" thread

[Interloper]

Will Minson does his ACL in Round 1 next season! What do you do? There are another 23(?) rounds to go and Ruck 1 is gone for the season. Who gets the gig and what impact does that have on that player and alternate structures or programs that may have been in place for him?
Does Campbell go straight into the ruck and stay there for as long as he can physically stand up to the job? Isn't he a tall forward option hoping to improve again on last season's efforts? Perhaps it should be Ayce and an opportunity for him to define a role for himself. There's always Roughie. Perhaps the one most likely to stand up to the physical demands at this stage. Austin can always fill in for him for the season. Round 2 is only 7 days away.

 

[timtamWB]

Will Minson does his ACL in Round 1 next season! What do you do?

Campbell is first cab off the rank, with support from Jones/Roughead/Williams. Hopefully one of Cordy/Roberts can emerge and help in the ruck as well.

 

[Dav1d]

What if.......I'd panic

 

[Nightowl]

Swear..

Then say...let's try Jones there..
Better still....bring back STREETY..... the unco king.

 

[Interloper]

Oh yes, and Merry xmas btw to all

 

[Fossie 32]

ATM I'd go with Campbell, with Jones giving him a chop out, bring in Cordy if all is not well. Not a great issue if we don't have him up forward if Stringer and Crameri do the job.

 

[dogwatch]

Cooney to play first ruck. Failing that, Campbell, then Cordy. Leave Roughy at FB.

 

[BRG93]

Cooney to play first ruck. Failing that, Campbell, then Cordy. Leave Roughy at FB.

Proven Track record for Coons

 

[Super Hans]

What if we won the premiership? I know I'd have about three weeks without sleep and would probably receive an ASADA infraction notice if tested.

 

[HiReception]

Will Minson does his ACL in Round 1 next season! What do you do?

Start following the NRL

 

[fitzroybowiedog]

Campbell and Cordy to take the ruck duties. Could be good for both of them. Might be the thing that Cordy needs.
Not that I want Minson to do his knee.

 

[Sharkey66]

Campbell and Cordy to take the ruck duties. Could be good for both of them. Might be the thing that Cordy needs.
Not that I want Minson to do his knee.

This. Even if they both get beaten regularly, it wouldn't hurt the mids to get some experience learning how to rove the opposition rucks. We are still developing for this year at least, and finals are just a possibility.
Next season (2015) would be a different matter.

 

[Toastman]

Will Minson does his ACL in Round 1 next season! What do you do? There are another 23(?) rounds to go and Ruck 1 is gone for the season. Who gets the gig and what impact does that have on that player and alternate structures or programs that may have been in place for him?
Does Campbell go straight into the ruck and stay there for as long as he can physically stand up to the job? Isn't he a tall forward option hoping to improve again on last season's efforts? Perhaps it should be Ayce and an opportunity for him to define a role for himself. There's always Roughie. Perhaps the one most likely to stand up to the physical demands at this stage. Austin can always fill in for him for the season. Round 2 is only 7 days away.

Rather it happens round 1 next year than in the final round in the following year when we're going into the finals. We definitely need some development in the backup rucks so it may be good for the team if he recovers well. Also, it's not a position we want to be shallow in when we are heading in to a finals where we are legitimate contenders so one way or another the kids are going to have to start carrying more of the ruck load.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

these what if threads are silly, there is no point, having that kinda negative mindset.

 

[Interloper]

these what if threads are silly, there is no point, having that kinda negative mindset.

Couldn't disagree more. Look at it from the coaches point of view. You need to have multiple what if scenarios to combat/counter events that are outside your control. In the case of Minson, it's not a matter of wishing it to happen, but as unpleasant as the scenario may be, it has to at least be considered as a possibility and a remedy contemplated or allowed for well ahead of time if you want to be prepared. If you don't consider it and even practice it to some degree you're likely to be under-prepared for such an eventuality. In rugby union and league, the better teams practice playing with 14 or 12 men so that when one of their players is sin-binned or sent off in a match the team is already accustomed to defending one man down and structures for that scenario are in place and have been practiced.
In the case of season ending injuries, a number of scenarios might be considered for key players with key roles. Griff and Roughie for example.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

Couldn't disagree more. Look at it from the coaches point of view. You need to have multiple what if scenarios to combat/counter events that are outside your control. In the case of Minson, it's not a matter of wishing it to happen, but as unpleasant as the scenario may be, it has to at least be considered as a possibility and a remedy contemplated or allowed for well ahead of time if you want to be prepared. If you don't consider it and even practice it to some degree you're likely to be under-prepared for such an eventuality. In rugby union and league, the better teams practice playing with 14 or 12 men so that when one of their players is sin-binned or sent off in a match the team is already accustomed to defending one man down and structures for that scenario are in place and have been practiced.
In the case of season ending injuries, a number of scenarios might be considered for key players with key roles. Griff and Roughie for example.

no coach would think like that imo once they do, thats when they are thinking about losing football.

now yes as a coach you would be developing your side to best cope with these kinda set backs, that comes down to adding depth to your list.

 

[Toastman]

no coach would think like that imo once they do, thats when they are thinking about losing football.

now yes as a coach you would be developing your side to best cope with these kinda set backs, that comes down to adding depth to your list.

Are you Rodney Eade? He took that approach and left us with such a shallow team that we had to put in guys who'd never played a game at AFL level in the finals.
"Hope for the best and prepare for the worst" is the approach a sensible coach should take.

 

[doggies ftw]

I think you'd just bring in Cordy to play in the forward role Campbell was playing late in the year and put Campbell in the ruck and just let them rotate.

 

[murphy2bedabest]

Are you Rodney Eade? He took that approach and left us with such a shallow team that we had to put in guys who'd never played a game at AFL level in the finals.
"Hope for the best and prepare for the worst" is the approach a sensible coach should take.

isn't that what i said? develop and add depth to your list?

this is why i think having the VFL side is important for us, someone like Cordy can now play just in the Ruck instead of playing in and out of the 1st and 2nd of willy

 

[VitalDread]

Coons to take ruck roles agasinst Dean cox

 

[True Dog]

Campbell and Cordy to swap up forward I would think. Unless we can move Roughie I don't see any other way.... That's why I'd like to see another defender (Austin/Roberts/Redpath) step up?