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[YellowandBlackBlood]

I assume the hysteria is all due to the fact that there is 200cm KPP that is available who can run like the wind, mark and kick well and generally can be where the ball is. These players don't grow on trees. Barring injury and with good body development, that sounds like a player that can dominate a match and would be impossible to tag out. If only a Cotchin, a Palmer, or a Masten etc were the top few choices then it wouldn't matter if you got Number 1 or Number 2 choice.

 

[HBK619]

A great point you make here Tugga. Obviously as nothing else is going on with our club, we have become obsessed by having the No. 1 pick.
FFS, say we miss Kreuzer (possibly the No. 1 pick, maybe not), are we that f****** hopeless that we can't snare a future champion at pick 2 or 3.

Dale Thomas, Daniel Wells, Jarryd Roughead, Luke Ball, Justin Koschitzke, Paul Haselby were all pick no. 2.

Chris Judd, Alan Didak, Ryan Griffen were all pick 3.

Any of these would be in the top three right now at Tigerland!

It can be done outside pick no. 1.

Although it is true that we can still pick up a superstar with Pick.2, it is just that if we don't get to choose who we want.

The universal decision it seems ATM will be that Kruezer will go No.1 and Cotchin No.2, that is all well and good for me, I will be glad that we will get one of these players who has superstar potential, the only gripe with me would be that if Kruezer were to go to Carlton and turn into the superstar we all know he will most likely turn out to be it would be another case of "WHY, GOD, WHY, Why do this to us again?" as we have already been crueled with numerous counts of poor decisions in the past, with Fiora the obvious and possibly Tambling who has been said on this website by several posters as being the "Worst Player to ever play AFL"" it would be alot better to just get the player that everyone thinks we should get and have him actually turn into a good player and not be another good player at a different team.

Although we would still get that No.2 pick to choose whoever we want, be it a Ruckman, Midfielder or otherwise, it would be better for us to have the No.1 choice in the matter and not have to go the backup option, thus possibly stuffing us up for our Second pick(No.17) who could turn out to be anybody, dud or otherwise.

 

[Kyusss]

looking at carltons run home the winable games look great

Essendon - are shite at the g not to mention the talks with melb and sheedy look to be promising, sheedy has to know more than us about this job and if his thinking ahead it would be beneficial for him to lose this game and get melbourne trent cotchin as pick 2

Melbourne - looks like they will be delisting a few players at the end of the year! may be a case of giving 4-8 blokes a goodbye game and maybe not care too highly about the result, and with carlton likely to have lappin a 200 gamer retiring might do it for him

tanking isnt the issue
supporters wanting their clubs to lose is the issue
and i am definately one of those
who cares about winning a round 20 nothing game compared to getting the best kid in the country

yes its an issue andrew

 

[Goldust]

the highlighted would not be in our top 3 at the moment, didak would be the favourite whipping boy down at tigerland for his inconsistancy, and has never reached his potential

LMAO! Didak will be damn near All Australian this year..line-ball. far more consistent than Pettifer, Tambling or Krakouer who play similar roles for us.

Roughead may not be top three, but alongside Richo, he'd be one of our two tall key forwards. Better value than Hughes, Schulz or Riewoldt and would probably relish playing alongside Richo as he does Franklin.

Griffen...he'd fill an onball role straight away and be second only to Foley!

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I assume the hysteria is all due to the fact that there is 200cm KPP that is available who can run like the wind, mark and kick well and generally can be where the ball is. These players don't grow on trees. Barring injury and with good body development, that sounds like a player that can dominate a match and would be impossible to tag out. If only a Cotchin, a Palmer, or a Masten etc were the top few choices then it wouldn't matter if you got Number 1 or Number 2 choice.

You're right, players like that don't grow on trees.

The only concern I have with Kruezer is his pace.

But a 199 cm ruckman who runs a beep test of 15+ is sensational.

 

[_RT_]

The PP can be yours for all I care. One teenager who may or may not make it won't catapult us to finals glory alone.

I want to win games of footy, and there are two possible wins. Even if we do get a PP, it won't help much if we continue to embrace losing. The most important thing is to drill into the young players that winning is everything, start to tell them that losing is OK then that is a dangerous path to take.

Agree with the sentiments put forward here. Would much rather the Tigers winning games of footy in the future than trying to win the race for a pick in the draft. As Thrawn says a teenage kid fresh out of the U/18's is not going to catapult us up the ladder to be a final contender. In fact it is safe to say that the kid/s we do pick up this year will have very little impact on the position we occupy at the end of next year. The ones that will have an influence are the players taken over the last 3-5 years that should be getting to the level that allows them to play full games in the key areas like the midfield & key position players (FF/CHF/CHB/FB). Once these players start delivering on a full time basis, not quarters here and there, then we might just might have a chance of climbing away from the bottom of the ladder.

A kid like Kruezer might be a once in a lifetime player but how many players in the past have been nominated as once in a lifetime types only to fail to live up to the hype that preceeded them?

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

LMAO! Didak will be damn near All Australian this year..line-ball. far more consistent than Pettifer, Tambling or Krakouer who play similar roles for us.

Roughead may not be top three, but alongside Richo, he'd be one of our two tall key forwards. Better value than Hughes, Schulz or Riewoldt and would probably relish playing alongside Richo as he does Franklin.

Griffen...he'd fill an onball role straight away and be second only to Foley!

What the hell are you talking about? Didak is lucky to be getting a game at the moment for Collingwood, let alone good enough to be All-Australian! He's as slow off the mark as Stan Magro at the moment.

 

[Big Punt]

Agree with the sentiments put forward here. Would much rather the Tigers winning games of footy in the future than trying to win the race for a pick in the draft. As Thrawn says a teenage kid fresh out of the U/18's is not going to catapult us up the ladder to be a final contender. In fact it is safe to say that the kid/s we do pick up this year will have very little impact on the position we occupy at the end of next year. The ones that will have an influence are the players taken over the last 3-5 years that should be getting to the level that allows them to play full games in the key areas like the midfield & key position players (FF/CHF/CHB/FB). Once these players start delivering on a full time basis, not quarters here and there, then we might just might have a chance of climbing away from the bottom of the ladder.

A kid like Kruezer might be a once in a lifetime player but how many players in the past have been nominated as once in a lifetime types only to fail to live up to the hype that preceeded them?

You seemed to have changed your tune from a couple of months ago RT.

 

[_RT_]

You seemed to have changed your tune from a couple of months ago RT.

Not quite, I think you missed the following line:

Would much rather the Tigers winning games of footy in the future than trying to win the race for a pick in the draft.

That is what I want from next year.

 

[tugga]

What the hell are you talking about? Didak is lucky to be getting a game at the moment for Collingwood, let alone good enough to be All-Australian! He's as slow off the mark as Stan Magro at the moment.

Agree. Not even close to All Australian this year.