I want to play a game ...

[H2F]

There has been a lot of lists that are asking, 'who are the top 10 or 20 players in the AFL?"

I think it's a bit hard to answer because you need to consider the age of the veteran's, injury problems, the big potential word etc.

So I put together a list of the 50 best players in the last three years. I did my best but imagine I have left plenty out (my apologies) ...

Please note that except for Judd I mixed up the list so it is not in order on purpose.

What I want to do is slowly remove people one at a time, until we have only 10 left.

To remove a player a poster must nominate someone off the list, then a second independent poster needs to confirm it. Then they will be removed.

Again I really do apologise if I have left anyone out.

1. Chris Judd
2. Barry Hall
3. Scott West
4. Joel Bowden
5. Matthew Pavlich
6. James Clement
7. Simon Goodwin
8. Daniel Kerr
9. Brendan Fevola
10. Sam Mitchell
11. Ben Cousins
12. Peter Everitt
13. Brett Kirk
14. Lenny Hayes
15. Chad Cornes
16. David Neitz
17. Luke Hodge
18. Simon Black
19. Mark Riccuito
20. Jonathon Brown
21. Brendan Lade
22. Nick Dal Santo
23. Luke Ball
24. Adam Goodes
25. Peter Bell
26. Dean Cox
27. Nick Reiwoldt
28. Ben Rutten
29. Nathan Buckley
30. Fraser Gherig
31. James Hird
32. Jude Bolton
33. Mark Williams
34. Tyson Edwards
35. Brad Johnson
36. Aaron Davey
37. Daniel Cross
38. Cameron Mooney
39. Jason Ackermanis
40. Warren Tredrea
41. Matthew Lloyd
42. Travis Johnstone
43. Matthew Scarlett
44. Michael Voss
45. Matthew Richardson
46. Brock McLean
47. Amon Buchanon
48. Chris Johnson
49. Nathan Thompson
50. Darren Glass

If some of you regulars can assist in providing updated lists I would really appreciate because work can often tie me up for large blocks.

I know you will feel that I have left some people off because it is harder than you think to squeeze them all in, but given we are aiming for a top 10 I don't think it matters really.

If there is someone glaringly obvious I will edit the main list.

Thanks

 

[konstas_87]

im not sure that Hird Voss or Buckley have been in the top 50 since 2004, perhaps just the lasting memories of their dominance causing a bit of bias there?

 

[RedLegs#5]

im not sure that Hird Voss or Buckley have been in the top 50 since 2004, perhaps just the lasting memories of their dominance causing a bit of bias there?

I second Hird, Buckley and Voss (chop them out).

I would like to nominate Luke Hodge.

Thanks.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I nominate Peter Bell

 

[H2F]

1. Chris Judd
2. Barry Hall
3. Scott West
4. Joel Bowden
5. Matthew Pavlich
6. James Clement
7. Simon Goodwin
8. Daniel Kerr
9. Brendan Fevola
10. Sam Mitchell
11. Ben Cousins
12. Peter Everitt
13. Brett Kirk
14. Lenny Hayes
15. Chad Cornes
16. David Neitz
17. Luke Hodge
18. Simon Black
19. Mark Riccuito
20. Jonathon Brown
21. Brendan Lade
22. Nick Dal Santo
23. Luke Ball
24. Adam Goodes
25. Peter Bell
26. Dean Cox
27. Nick Reiwoldt
28. Ben Rutten
30. Fraser Gherig
32. Jude Bolton
33. Mark Williams
34. Tyson Edwards
35. Brad Johnson
36. Aaron Davey
37. Daniel Cross
38. Cameron Mooney
39. Jason Ackermanis
40. Warren Tredrea
41. Matthew Lloyd
42. Travis Johnstone
43. Matthew Scarlett
45. Matthew Richardson
46. Brock McLean
47. Amon Buchanon
48. Chris Johnson
49. Nathan Thompson
50. Darren Glass

 

[H2F]

3 down 37 to go.

I will not comment on the ommissions, but remember the validity of this thread relies on the respondents so please think deeply before you post.

One cross against Hodge and one against Bell.

 

[tribey]

16. David Neitz
20. Jonathon Brown
27. Nick Reiwoldt
36. Aaron Davey
40. Warren Tredrea

So this is your best 50 from 2004, 2005 and 2006?

Taking the five players as a snapshot as to how opinions, perception, recent injury and hype can rightly or wrongly cloud thinking.

Neitz - 2004-2006.

Games: 60 of 70 (2 Finals)
Disposals: 536 @ 8.93 per game
Marks: 272 @ 4.53
Goalkicking: 176.96
All-Australians: 0
Best & Fairests: 0
Brownlow Medal votes: 20
Premierships: 0
Other: MFC Captain 2004-2006

Brown - 2004-2006.

Games: 41 of 69 (3 Finals)
Disposals: 701 @ 17.09 per game
Marks: 346 @ 8.43
Goalkicking: 107.58
All-Australians: 0
Best & Fairests: 0
Brownlow Medal votes: 32
Premierships: 0
Other: -

Riewoldt - 2004-2006.

Games: 64 of 72 (6 Finals)
Disposals: 1049 @ 16.39 per game
Marks: 601 @ 9.39
Goalkicking: 160.103
All-Australians: 2 - 2004, 2006
Best & Fairests: 2 - 2004, 2006
Brownlow Medal votes: 28
Premierships: 0
Other: Leigh Matthews Trophy 2004; St. KFC Captain 2005

Tredrea - 2004-2006

Games: 60 of 71 (5 Finals)
Disposals: 924 @ 15.40 per game
Marks: 487 @ 8.11
Goalkicking: 163.97
All-Australians: 1 - 2004 (vc)
Best & Fairests: 2 - 2004, 2005
Brownlow Medal votes: 27
Premierships: 1 - 2004
Other: Acting PAFC Captain 2004; PAFC Captain 2006.
__________

It's difficult to see how you can have Neitz ahead of the other three KPPs I've highlighted - let alone have Aaron Davey ahead of Tredrea.

While you can argue the respective merits and achievements of Neitz, Riewoldt, Brown and Tredrea between 2004-2006 - how can you possibly justify having Aaron Davey ahead of an All-Australian CHF?

 

[H2F]

Please note that except for Judd I mixed up the list so it is not in order on purpose.

Dyertribe ...

Sorry I rambled but I mixed up the order on purpose.

 

[tribey]

Dyertribe ...

Sorry I rambled but I mixed up the order on purpose.

Alas, the numbering got me.

Either way, Davey has no business whatsoever being amongst such esteemed company.

Thus, I nominate Davey.

 

[H2F]

Alas, the numbering got me.

Either way, Davey has no business whatsoever being amongst such esteemed company.

Thus, I nominate Davey.

Strikes...

Hodge
Bell
Davey

 

[Carnthe]

i second davey... wells has better stats and more importantly is better!

 

[H2F]

i second davey... wells has better stats and more importantly is better!

I admit I made a mistake with Wells, but he is certainly not in the top 10 so we will leave him out with a big apology...

 

[H2F]

1. Chris Judd
2. Barry Hall
3. Scott West
4. Joel Bowden
5. Matthew Pavlich
6. James Clement
7. Simon Goodwin
8. Daniel Kerr
9. Brendan Fevola
10. Sam Mitchell
11. Ben Cousins
12. Peter Everitt
13. Brett Kirk
14. Lenny Hayes
15. Chad Cornes
16. David Neitz
17. Luke Hodge
18. Simon Black
19. Mark Riccuito
20. Jonathon Brown
21. Brendan Lade
22. Nick Dal Santo
23. Luke Ball
24. Adam Goodes
25. Peter Bell
26. Dean Cox
27. Nick Reiwoldt
28. Ben Rutten
30. Fraser Gherig
32. Jude Bolton
33. Mark Williams
34. Tyson Edwards
35. Brad Johnson
37. Daniel Cross
38. Cameron Mooney
39. Jason Ackermanis
40. Warren Tredrea
41. Matthew Lloyd
42. Travis Johnstone
43. Matthew Scarlett
45. Matthew Richardson
46. Brock McLean
47. Amon Buchanon
48. Chris Johnson
49. Nathan Thompson
50. Darren Glass

Davey gawn...

36 to go.

 

[estibador]

I'll second Hodge. Good player but not top ten material.

And if we're talking top ten the other obvious nominations (for me at least) would be Cross, T. Johnstone and Buchanon.

I could name another 5 or so but this'll probably work better if everyone only nominates a few.

 

[Moo]

Sam Mitchell ...come on down

 

[H2F]

1. Chris Judd
2. Barry Hall
3. Scott West
4. Joel Bowden
5. Matthew Pavlich
6. James Clement
7. Simon Goodwin
8. Daniel Kerr
9. Brendan Fevola
10. Sam Mitchell
11. Ben Cousins
12. Peter Everitt
13. Brett Kirk
14. Lenny Hayes
15. Chad Cornes
16. David Neitz
18. Simon Black
19. Mark Riccuito
20. Jonathon Brown
21. Brendan Lade
22. Nick Dal Santo
23. Luke Ball
24. Adam Goodes
25. Peter Bell
26. Dean Cox
27. Nick Reiwoldt
28. Ben Rutten
30. Fraser Gherig
32. Jude Bolton
33. Mark Williams
34. Tyson Edwards
35. Brad Johnson
37. Daniel Cross
38. Cameron Mooney
39. Jason Ackermanis
40. Warren Tredrea
41. Matthew Lloyd
42. Travis Johnstone
43. Matthew Scarlett
45. Matthew Richardson
46. Brock McLean
47. Amon Buchanon
48. Chris Johnson
49. Nathan Thompson
50. Darren Glass

Hodge gawn...

35 to go.[/quote]

 

[H2F]

Strike

Bell
Cross
Johnstone
Buchanon
Mitchell

 

[HBK619]

I second Johnstone.

I nominate Nathan Thompson.

 

[raskolnikov]

I nominate Chris Judd.

 

[BK Eaglesfan]

I'll second Buchanon...very good player, but not top 50 in the league, and certainly not top 10.

 

[lids2004roar]

Shame there's no Troy Simmonds, I thought he was in the top 3 ruckmen. Nathan Brown was dominant over 2004-2005 and probably played more games than Jon Brown (?)

Anyway I second nathan Thompson (he's good though)

Nominate Ben Rutten.

 

[catman2006]

Nominate J Bowden

 

[tin can sam]

I second Bowden and nominate Mark Williams.

Gary Ablett and Paul Chapman seem like huge omissions to me also.

 

[Whiskers]

Daniel Cross, Chris Johnson say your prayers

 

[catman2006]

I second M Williams
nominate D Neitz