Is Dan24's finals system right or wrong? VOTE NOW!

[Dan26]

I wouldn't say no one cares about the Grand Slam cup. Behind the 4 Grand Slasm the,selves, it is probably the 5th tournament the players would want to win.

Anyway, it only has a short history. Our Grand Final has a 100 year history.

And besides, in the Grand Slam cup, the winner doesn't automatically become the number one ranked player in thw world. Nor should they. It would be undeserving to have the title of number one totally dependent on one match.

Yet, that's what the Grand Final currently does, since the 22 weeks beforehand (which comprise 95% of the season) are irrelevant and the "premier" is found over 4 weeks.

 

[elt]

Dan,

I am not disputing whether the Grand Slam Cup winner becomes no.1 in the world. You are the one who suggested that the tennis setup was similar to your proposal. If it is so dissimilar don't use it as an analogy

You then go on to claim the reason no-one wants to win the Grand Slam Cup is because of a short history. What does that say for an untried system of splitting the season into two competitions?

BTW I know how the current system works. Don't insult my intelligence (or lack thereof) by cutting and pasting.

I thought I made it clear that the minor premier deserved more credit imho. However I don't think your proposal is the best way of implementing it. It introduces more negatives than positives, especially with an uneven draw.

 

[Dan26]

Well, the uneven draw exists with the current system.

And anyway, what is so even about the current finals series? I suppose, you think, this makes up for the inequities of the H&A do you?

In the finals, you only play 3 or 4 of the other 7 finalists, possibly avoiding the top team if you are lucky.

I just think that by having two separate things to win, means that the Home and away would cease to be the unacceptable means to an end that it currently is.

I say unacceptable, because it occupiesr 95% of the season, and anything that occupies so much of the season should count for something. After all, that's when we find out how good all the teams are over the course of the year !

Currently, the H&A is swept under the carpet when the finals start, as if it never happened.

So, effectively, it is ALREADY a separate tournament right now. I've said it before, but you can't win the flag under the current system, UNTIL the 4 week finals start. So, really, the H&A doesn't count for anything, no matter how many games you win. So, why not have that 22 weeks count towards something you can win ! If they are seperate, nothing really much changes, because to win the Grand Final will, as always, be soley dependent on the finals series.

See what I mean ??

Currently to win the GF, you have to perform in the fianls. In my system, as per usual, to win the GF you will have to perform in the 4 week finals series. In my system, the H&A becomes irrelevant when the finals begin, because it has already been won and we are starting a new tournament. In the curreny system, it become irrelevant when the finals begin, but stupidly it is all part of one big 26 weeks season. So, the 22 weeks becomes irrelevant, but there is nothing to show for it.

So, really, they are separate right now. It is just not officailly acknowledged that way. Because you currently can't win the premiership UNTIL the finals begin, effectively we are just waiting around for the finals to start, which is where the premier is determined. So, why not have the 22 weeks count as something to win in it's own right. It's better than being declared irrelevant. And it's better than beign a means to an end.

 

[elt]

Dan,

You have done it again. You took the last two words of my post and used it as an excuse to rehash your diatribe. As I have said previously you are not going to convince me your system is the best way of giving the top spot recognition.

As hard as it may be for you to comprehend, I do understand your argument. I just don't agree. Please don't take my silence to be consent.

[This message has been edited by elt (edited 14 December 2000).]

 

[joshhem]

Hey guys is there a way of sumarising everything that has been said so far, I really don't feel like reading 24 pages.

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[The Old Dark Navy's]

Originally posted by Dan24:
ODN's

Obviously you are incapable of differentiatign between what is pre-season and what is not pre-season.

The Ansett Cup is PRE f*cking SEASON. Do you hear me.......PRE-SEASON.

Do you think the FA CUP is considered some (the final is held as the last match of the season) pre-season style cup???

Of course not !

My system does NOT have the GF as some pre-season match as you seem to think. It is held at the culmination of the season. Is that too hard to understand? Is that too difficult for you to see? Obviously it is, because you don't seem to understad the differecne between the "SEASON", and the "PRE-SEASON"


Just like Roylion and ptw, you don't seem to understand the "glory' and "event" and most importantly, the "MOMENT" that the Grand Final will always give as long as it is the last match of the season.

If you are going to compare something to a "PRE-SEASON" competition, then make sure you use a pre-season comparison. Comparing my sytem to the Ansett Cup is one of the most stupid and idiotic posts I have even read, and I am being kind to you. If you can't see the difference between "SEASON" and "PRE-SEASON", then you are truly stupid.

Really, am I being too harsh on you? Think about what you just said, and you will probably realise that calling you stupid is going easy on you, when you take into account the idiotic statement which you made.

hahahahahahahaha. Is that all your feeble mind could come up with? A little too hard to understand????

If you took the Ansett cup and put it at the end of the season (with me so far), then it would be a post season competition (WOW!!!, Wanna sit down?). If you can quote FA cups and Wimbledon even though as you told Elt it is not exactly the same, don't you dare abuse me for quoting the Ansett Cup!!!! At least it is the same game! The spirit that I feel and many many others on this board feel would be lost from the finals would bring it back to a level akin to the Ansett Cup. Regardless if it is played at Midnight Christmas Eve on Mars. I have explained why I feel the GF is such an 'event'. Because their is the ultimate title riding on that last two hours of the season. Not the secondary title. Now, I know you will conveniently ignore any logic pointed out to you. Am I being too harsh in saying that you are an ignorant know-it-all bighead??? Don't take offense, what do I know, apparently I am beyond stupid!!!



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mens sana in corpore sano - a sound mind in a sound body

 

[Drakey]

I can't beleive this is still going. 355 well done dan

 

[ptw]

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you are not being too harsh.

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