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dav3 said:
It's Bittorrent, it seeds even when you haven't got the complete download. Sounds like it's targeted at people who had it active over certain dates, most likely from one or two public trackers. I got it off a small private tracker so in theory I should be fine, but I think it's time to look at VPN or a seedbox :(
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So it be better to go back to Warez and have sites like Megaupload and Rapidshare as you are just downloading?
 
TradeDraft said:
Well - Looks like everyone in Australia will be looking to get VPN’s then.

I think they go after IINET as they are the only ones that have told the Government they are not going to bend to there Will.

Dosen’t TPG own IINET now?
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They're probably going after iiNet because they're the biggest and would have the most people who use things like Bittorrent, Telstra is huge but their primary market would be older people who don't care about it............ plus they're probably a bit of a protected species in this country.

I don't know if it's gone through yet but yes, TPG are buying iiNet.
 
dav3 said:
They're probably going after iiNet because they're the biggest and would have the most people who use things like Bittorrent, Telstra is huge but their primary market would be older people who don't care about it............ plus they're probably a bit of a protected species in this country.

I don't know if it's gone through yet but yes, TPG are buying iiNet.
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So, Better get BigPond Internet then and Give IINET the ASS?
 
TradeDraft said:
So it be better to go back to Warez and have sites like Megaupload and Rapidshare as you are just downloading?
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Won't happen, centralizing the content makes it easier for the owners to be prosecuted (just look at Kim Dotcom). To be fair I'm not too fussed about "better", downloading things has become too dumbed down which has made people focus on it more.
 

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dav3 said:
Won't happen, centralizing the content makes it easier for the owners to be prosecuted (just look at Kim Dotcom). To be fair I'm not too fussed about "better", downloading things has become too dumbed down which has made people focus on it more.
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Well, With Torrents really getting Stamped down this season.

I won’t be Surprise someone is working on something new or Improved Torrents way of doing it Without getting Traced
 
TradeDraft said:
So, Better get BigPond Internet then and Give IINET the ASS?
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The precedent has been set now, unless an appeal is successful they'll be able to go after anyone.

TradeDraft said:
Well, With Torrents really getting Stamped down this season.

I won’t be Surprise someone is working on something new or Improved Torrents way of doing it Without getting Traced
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Alternatives will already be out there, making them well known makes them a target for getting shutdown. It's like most things, popularity ends up destroying them.
 
The precedent has been set now, unless an appeal is successful they'll be able to go after anyone
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So we go from No One being Chased in Australia to know thanks to Bandt and Turnball that anyone can be Chased?

Alternatives will already be out there, making them well known makes them a target for getting shutdown. It's like most things, popularity ends up destroying them.
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I have heard about USERNET but I have heard that is Very Expensive to get on with.

Yeah, Agree like how Napster and Kazza everyone started using them and then the Big Business wanted it taken down ASAP
 
Blue Red and Gold said:
So for arguments sake, if I was an internode customer who downloaded this movie off pirate bay using utorrent should I be expecting a letter?

Not that I would of, it's illegal and all.
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That is Illegal and you could get a Letter but Not 100% Sure
 
Blue Red and Gold said:
So for arguments sake, if I was an internode customer who downloaded this movie off pirate bay using utorrent should I be expecting a letter?

Not that I would of, it's illegal and all.
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You MAY get one, it depends on what they class as distributing the file. It was also for a certain period of time, so if it was outside of that you might be safe...... for now.

I ended up pulling the trigger and grabbing an offshore box, may as well minimize the risk.
 
dav3 said:
You MAY get one, it depends on what they class as distributing the file. It was also for a certain period of time, so if it was outside of that you might be safe...... for now.

I ended up pulling the trigger and grabbing an offshore box, may as well minimize the risk.
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My Family Heard of this and We are talking about getting one as just to make it bit safer then just leaving it as the Government is really Cracking down on it.

Bloody Turnball and Brandt getting Bribed by MPAA and US Government. Where they should be fixing why people Pirate and not fining People for it
 

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Mighty P said:
So how far back can they back-date fines etc to? If I downloaded something 2 years ago can they do anything?
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Not Sure but Sadly I think there is a Good Chance they can see and look at all the MetaData that has been help by the IP and could be used against you.

Though don’t quote me on that
 
I imagine Netflix will get a spike in subs after this. Also, this kind of leaves room for other companies that stream content to pop up; I guess the capital needed is gonna be huge though so we'll probably see already established corporations dip their toes into streaming services.
 
Mighty P said:
So how far back can they back-date fines etc to? If I downloaded something 2 years ago can they do anything?
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Unlikely, Dallas Buyers Club LLC hired people to actively track people downloading/seeding the movie, I don't think other licence holders would have bothered with it back then, but now that the precedent has been set it may become more common. Data retention has also been standardized across Australia which gives them a set period where they KNOW they'll be able to get customer details and take action, if you're using public trackers I'd suggest you look at other solutions.

If you do get busted it shouldn't be the end of the world, this guy got away with a $500 fine after getting chased for $5000 initially. I think companies have learnt that chasing the public for thousands and thousands of dollars over this kind of shit just isn't going to happen, even if they win they'll never see the money.
 

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Mighty P said:
I imagine Netflix will get a spike in subs after this. Also, this kind of leaves room for other companies that stream content to pop up; I guess the capital needed is gonna be huge though so we'll probably see already established corporations dip their toes into streaming services.
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We don't need more companies who stream data, we really need the existing ones to consolidate and expand. No one is going to buy 5 or 6 $10-$20 subscriptions so that they have all their favourite shows available, bringing in more services who will all have their own exclusive content is counter-productive.
 
dav3 said:
We don't need more companies who stream data, we really need the existing ones to consolidate and expand. No one is going to buy 5 or 6 $10-$20 subscriptions so that they have all their favourite shows available, bringing in more services who will all have their own exclusive content is counter-productive.
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I agree with you to a point, but as it is a new field you can pretty much guarantee there will be others entering the arena.
 

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