Recommitted Jack Martin [requested a trade to Victoria, didn't get there]

[reincarnated]

Also, apparently, Brad Johnson overheard conversation between Martin and his management, where there is a lot of in fighting going on.

AFL are open to voiding the contract if GC doesn't do the appropriate deal and making him a free agent.

May and Broadie in the same boat.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Even if he is not worth 2 first round picks (Seeing him week in, week out, I think he is definitely worth that), why would the Suns give him up for anything less?

He is contracted, the Suns don't need the picks as much as they need a mature best 22 player like Martin, and he has not requested a trade as of yet. There is absolutely no point trading him under the current circumstances unless the offer is too good not to take. Obviously things can change at any time though.

Because he doesn't want to be there. If a player doesn't want to be at a club it becomes a toxic environment when they stay. They should make the correct call and move him on for fair value, which is a first round pick, pick 8 if you will.

Would be silly not to trade him this year and secure that pick, much less bargaining power next year when he's out of contract.

 

[Young_Guns]

Because he doesn't want to be there. If a player doesn't want to be at a club it becomes a toxic environment when they stay. They should make the correct call and move him on for fair value, which is a first round pick, pick 8 if you will.

Would be silly not to trade him this year and secure that pick, much less bargaining power next year when he's out of contract.

Ok, and as I said, when he requests a trade, that will change things. But as of now he has not done such meaning we have no reason to look into trading him. Not sure what’s silly about not trading a contracted player who has not demanded a trade?

And you and I both know that the suns will ask for more than pick 8 if it came down to it. What they end up with is another matter however.

 

[Peel67skin]

That was so 2013

Still if he going to use OHS and Mental health do it smartly. Supplement saga are not players leaving because they don't like the place , they actually been inject illegal substance into their body by their club and get ban by AFL for a season .

 

[Peel67skin]

Because he doesn't want to be there. If a player doesn't want to be at a club it becomes a toxic environment when they stay. They should make the correct call and move him on for fair value, which is a first round pick, pick 8 if you will.

Would be silly not to trade him this year and secure that pick, much less bargaining power next year when he's out of contract.

To be honest I will take St Kilda pick 4 and next year first round for Martin ,if they don't get Shiel and send pick 19 , 26,38 back to them .
GC get pick 4 , next year St Kilda first Rd
St Kilda get Martin , 19 ,26,38 if environment is the problem. Essendon apart from pick 8 got shit pick to swap .

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

To be honest I will take St Kilda pick 4 and next year first round for Martin ,if they don't get Shiel and send pick 19 , 26,38 back to them .
GC get pick 4 , next year St Kilda first Rd
St Kilda get Martin , 19 ,26,38 if environment is the problem. Essendon apart from pick 8 got shit pick to swap .

We've got next years first round pick too. Fact is Pick 8 should get it done if he nominates the Dons.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

We've got next years first round pick too. Fact is Pick 8 should get it done if he nominates the Dons.

And Essendon are hard to deal with lols

 

[Moist Biscuit]

We've got next years first round pick too. Fact is Pick 8 should get it done if he nominates the Dons.

Not whilst contacted it wont. Why is this so hard to understand? They aren't giving away contracted players for unders.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Not whilst contacted it wont. Why is this so hard to understand? They aren't giving away contracted players for unders.

Unfortanley contracts don’t mean much anymore.

 

[Peel67skin]

We've got next years first round pick too. Fact is Pick 8 should get it done if he nominates the Dons.

Up to you , you don't need to convince me , but GC Craig Cameron and Dew.

 

[SnusCG]

Also, apparently, Brad Johnson overheard conversation between Martin and his management, where there is a lot of in fighting going on.

AFL are open to voiding the contract if GC doesn't do the appropriate deal and making him a free agent.

May and Broadie in the same boat.

Brodies manager when questioned literally said he loves it up here and isn’t going to move. Said scrimshaw probably would in the same interview so he has no reason to lie.
May has not requested a trade. Neither has Martin. Stop making up shit. He’s not even old enough to be a free agent regardless of contract.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Up to you , you don't need to convince me , but GC Craig Cameron and Dew.

Nope, they need to convince Jack that GC is the best club for him to be at, and it's bleedingly obvious that it is anything but that. Suns are are in big trouble. Need to start again and go down the GWS route, perhaps learn a thing or two along the way...

Pick 8 will help. Good luck with the rebuild, or should I say, build.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Nope, they need to convince Jack that GC is the best club for him to be at, and it's bleedingly obvious that it is anything but that. Suns are are in big trouble. Need to start again and go down the GWS route, perhaps learn a thing or two along the way...

Pick 8 will help. Good luck with the rebuild, or should I say, build.

Pick 8 and?

 

[reload141]

Pick 8 and?

I'm moist just reading your username.

But let's be realistic here for a second, he was touted as the next big thing and with injuries/performance he hasn't lived up to expectations.

Pick 8 is fine on it's own. Why would you want to keep a player who reportedly doesn't want to be there? Only to wait a year and get even less for him.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Pick 8 and?

Next years 2nd rounder for your next years 3rd rounder.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

I'm moist just reading your username.

But let's be realistic here for a second, he was touted as the next big thing and with injuries/performance he hasn't lived up to expectations.

Pick 8 is fine on it's own. Why would you want to keep a player who reportedly doesn't want to be there? Only to wait a year and get even less for him.

Because he's worth more than pick 8 to the sun's.

 

[Bojangles17]

3rd B & F 2016, 2017. You got no idea.

And this year ?

 

[Bojangles17]

LOL . When do a discussion forum become your fantasy forum , telling GC they are either paying over for player or asking over for player . Learn not to be know it all if you want to discuss topic . Normally asking 2 X first round pick from other club is part of a tactic to be nice that he is not for sale this year , try again next year .

Touché

 

[SnusCG]

And this year ?

10th (249 votes) and only played 15 games. Maximum votes in our BnF for a round is 25 so he averaged 16.6 votes a round, or the equivalent of 10 maximum vote games

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Pick 8 shouldn't do it because GCS have too may kids and will have picks 2&3 to add more youth talent to their list anyway. They will also get picks for Scrimshaw from Hawthorn. They'd prefer to keep a more mature type who is one of their most talented players. What's wrong with that? We also haven't heard directly from Martin which is strange.

 

[Peel67skin]

Touché

Pushe

 

[Peel67skin]

And this year ?

And then .........., Keep repeating .

 

[Bojangles17]

And then .........., Keep repeating .

Humour me

 

[Bojangles17]

10th (249 votes) and only played 15 games. Maximum votes in our BnF for a round is 25 so he averaged 16.6 votes a round, or the equivalent of 10 maximum vote games

That’s not worthy of 2 xr1 , 10th placing in a side that wins 4 games ain’t gonna enhance the cv any. If a r1 is offered , take it and run like bandits

 

[SnusCG]

That’s not worthy of 2 xr1 , 10th placing in a side that wins 4 games ain’t gonna enhance the cv any. If a r1 is offered , take it and run like bandits

Why would we take that and run when we clearly value him more than that. Just because you don't doesn't mean we should move him on for less than what we rate him, or at all for that matter, considering he hasn't actually asked for a trade.