Jared Polec

[OneGreatClub]

If that's the case then my view is he won't end up at North via a trade. He's a good player and the type we need, but he isn't Robert Flower.

There'll be other suitors for our 8-10 pick.

Our 2019 1 st round pick is going to be needed for the best young player in the comp (Kelly), so there's no chance in hell we are going to risk blowing it.



It's neither here nor there at the end of the day for us mate.

If you can prise a top 5 pick out of a club for a bloke that didn't crack the top 10 of your B&F last year despite playing 22 matches, then Port will have pulled off the trade of the century.

Lol

 

[Malibu#27]

So, to answer your question, if we could snag Polec, Hall, Thomas & Scott and only forfeit the 2019 2nd round pick, then I wouldn't be too fussed about that.

So you want to trade in 2 players, one of which is quality, and bring in two father sons, at least one rated very highly (potential mid first round) and give up nothing but a 2019 second rounder ?

 

[Snake_Baker]

So you want to trade in 2 players, one of which is quality, and bring in two father sons, at least one rated very highly (potential mid first round) and give up nothing but a 2019 second rounder ?

Is there some miraculous aspect to this which currently escapes me?

What North do with it trades and draft is no issue for Port to be concerned about.

If you manage to bundle up our 1st round pick and some of your picks to land Lukosious, then I would applaud your club for it's ingenuity. It's not my business to get resentful about it.

 

[OneGreatClub]

If you flip this logic, Port can't offer a 3rd tier contract to a player and expect a sheep station in return.

This logic is not any ultimate truth, it depends on which seat you are seated.

Port haven’t offered him a ‘third tier’ contract mate.
North are desperate and will pay accordingly.
We are not asking for the sheep farm but if you are offering what is reported and other clubs are after him you need to pay his fair worth.
He is coming into his prime and will be up there with our b&f.
His style of play is exactly what your club needs on the quick Ethiad surface, in fact with the potential rule changes he would be prized in any club.
Now the word is out, true or not, that he will consider moving to Victoria other clubs might come into the equation too.
He is good at playing one off against the other. He did that with us and the Crows when he moved here from Brisbane. We won.
He isn’t a RFA

 

[Malibu#27]

Is there some miraculous aspect to this which currently escapes me?

What North do with it trades and draft is no issue for Port to be concerned about.

If you manage to bundle up our 1st round pick and some of your picks to land Lukosious, then I would applaud your club for it's ingenuity. It's not my business to get resentful about it.

I'm more laughing at your lunacy.
You've suggested you can trade in Polec and Hall, and match 2 FS bids for nothing but a 2019 second rounder. I'm asking how you manage that ?

 

[PepeSilvia]

Is there some miraculous aspect to this which currently escapes me?

What North do with it trades and draft is no issue for Port to be concerned about.

If you manage to bundle up our 1st round pick and some of your picks to land Lukosious, then I would applaud your club for it's ingenuity. It's not my business to get resentful about it.

Wow. Imagine being this much of a sanctimonious dickhead and supporting Norf.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

If they rate a bloke enough to pay a million in his first year they'll be parting with their first draft pick plain and simple with added steak knife shuffling.

 

[Tredrea_Wanganeen_Gray]

Since a move would be about money (whilst getting to Melbourne for his other half), he’d be better off going to Carlton if they were in the ball park. All those games on the wide open spaces of the MCG, rather then the concrete of Etihad would suit him perfectly. Not to mention be much less likely to cause issues with his foot. If (and I’d rather keep him), if Carlton get a priority pick after their first, that’d be awfully tasty compensation).

I don’t expect it to happen for numerous reasons, but the apocalyptic mouth frothing if we somehow turned Polec + our first into 2 and grabbed Lukosius would see Adelaide’s, Seven Adelaide and the Advertisers ranks all thin markedly as they give themselves a stroke from the raving.

Carlton's home is Etihad not MCG

 

[Snake_Baker]

Port haven’t offering him a ‘third tier’ contract mate.

3 x $500K is just "good player" territory OGC.

$700-$900K is top shelf and $900K & over is gun territory.

3 x $500K is basically $50K over what we are paying Shaun Atley.

 

[RossFC]

3 x $500K is just "good player" territory OGC.

$700-$900K is top shelf and $900K & over is gun territory.

3 x $500K is basically $50K over what we are paying Shaun Atley.

We are definitely lowballing Polec. We should offer 100k more. If he's not cooked in 3 years time then he'll get another deal and probably even more money.

 

[OneGreatClub]

3 x $500K is just "good player" territory OGC.

$700-$900K is top shelf and $900K & over is gun territory.

3 x $500K is basically $50K over what we are paying Shaun Atley.

Yes 700 to 900 is top shelf which is what you are offering.
What a w***er to come on here wanting to give Port peanuts for a non free agent player you are desperate to lure to your pathetic club.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

3 x $500K is just "good player" territory OGC.

$700-$900K is top shelf and $900K & over is gun territory.

3 x $500K is basically $50K over what we are paying Shaun Atley.

Stop assuming you know what’s being offered when none of us do

 

[OneGreatClub]

We are definitely lowballing Polec. We should offer 100k more. If he's not cooked in 3 years time then he'll get another deal and probably even more money.

Do you actually know what we have offered him?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

According to Stephen Trigg, Carlton have roughly $3 million in the cap to use by this year.

In that case, I couldn't see him getting passed us in the PSD

Triggy knows where the cash is lel

 

[Snake_Baker]

I'm more laughing at your lunacy.
You've suggested you can trade in Polec and Hall, and match 2 FS bids for nothing but a 2019 second rounder. I'm asking how you manage that ?

Okay. You may not have factored in the 20% discount.

Polec & pick 33 to North for pick 9.

Hall hasn't even been offered a contract by GC, so basically he will be our pick 53 at the most.

North's points = 1807 points

Thomas bids at 10, Bailey Scott bids at 30 = 1958 points - 20% F/S academy discount = 1566 points, so there is still plenty of wriggle room.

The very worst case scenario is we have to cough over some 2019 2nd round points for Bailey Scott.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Triggy knows where the cash is lel

Them clerical errors

 

[Malibu#27]

Stop assuming you know what’s being offered when none of us do

No. He is claiming he knows in other threads. Apparently the journos are all wrong, North are only offering 600K, although luckily they got it spot on with what Port are offering.

 

[Malibu#27]

Okay. You may not have factored in the 20% discount.

Of course I factored that in.

Polec & pick 33 to North for pick 9.

See - already you have paid more than the 2019 second rounder.

Hall hasn't even been offered a contract by GC, so basically he will be our pick 53 at the most.

And then you spend more again.... so basically your previous post was a chest pumping exercise.

 

[elpirate]

If you flip this logic, Port can't offer a 3rd tier contract to a player and expect a sheep station in return.

This logic is not any ultimate truth, it depends on which seat you are seated.

LoL he's already at PAFC. Also how would you know what port are offering so you can class it as "3rd tier" ?

To poach someone in any organisation, you always pay overs which is what NM are offering Polly.

It will be impossible to pay him the money and not pay what's he is worth, potentially slight overs, for him at the trade table.

It's just what will happen.

Plus, due to the many failed attempts by NM to land anyone, ide say there will be much saving of face by your club due to this so expect your club to do whatever it takes to get him.

They cannot walk away from this now, unless Polly re signs with PAFC.

 

[Peck]

3 x $500K is just "good player" territory OGC.

$700-$900K is top shelf and $900K & over is gun territory.

3 x $500K is basically $50K over what we are paying Shaun Atley.

I doubt many of our players are paid much over 500k honestly, not that I really know but Dixon and Ryder certainly aren't on 900k.

Different clubs would have different attitudes towards this, but I think those that trend more towards the "Everyone is paid about the same" attitude has shown to be the winning formula.

 

[Snake_Baker]

We are definitely lowballing Polec. We should offer 100k more. If he's not cooked in 3 years time then he'll get another deal and probably even more money.

I can understand Port walking away from the table regarding his contract, as you have a lot of very good players on your list, and Polec is no great standout. Has he ever finished in the top 10 of the B&F previously?

There's a reason we have something like $3 million to spend. We have nowhere near your depth of talent.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Of course I factored that in.

See - already you have paid more than the 2019 second rounder.

And then you spend more again.... so basically your previous post was a chest pumping exercise.

I don't know where you're going with this mate. I have been respectful on your board, and I am looking at this from a rational perspective.

 

[scottjr]

Gold Coast? Has a player ever specified that they want to play in a certain state, only for a club from another state swoop in and take them in the draft? It wouldn't make sense to do so.

You go where you are sent. Period.

Gold Coast wouldn't hesitate and we've done it to players in the past.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I doubt many of our players are paid much over 500k honestly, not that I really know but Dixon and Ryder certainly aren't on 900k.

Different clubs would have different attitudes towards this, but I think those that trend more towards the "Everyone is paid about the same" attitude has shown to be the winning formula.

I agree, and as I mentioned previously it's due to the depth of your talent.

IMO, Ports issue isn't talent, it's balance.

 

[RossFC]

Do you actually know what we have offered him?

Part of the game on here is discussing rumoured figures and contracts lengths that come out of the media. We all obviously can choose to take it as a grain of salt or just deny it.

If we've offered 3 years on 500k and North have offered either 5 years on 750k or 6 years on 600k with the first year being front loaded to a million dollars then I think we should we should raise our offer by 100k but keep the 3 years as the same.

Even if all of the above is false, it's clear from CDs comments that we are some ways apart in $ and contract length.