Jeff Kennett

[Contra Mundum]

Here Here, thanks

Money cannot produce culture!

 

[DonsRule]

Kennett single handily put Victoria back on the map and got rid of debt. We owe him big time. I'd like to see anyone hear do the same.

And as for him being Hawthorn president….it’s a fantastic thing for the hawks. Very lucky.

I wasn't really around to know Vic before Kennet, but that what I though, was in charge of a debt riddled state, and did what he had to do to get it back into line. Even though it would seem alot of them were unpopular.

 

[_Ron_]

I wasn't really around to know Vic before Kennet, but that what I though, was in charge of a debt riddled state, and did what he had to do to get it back into line. Even though it would seem alot of them were unpopular.

You'll find poorer people and less educated people voted him out because all they could see was him closing things down and selling off government run business to private enterprise etc. Some people think it's ok for the government to provide everything regardless of the strain that puts on the economy.

The reality was he was streamlining things and bringing Victoria back out of the red into a financial powerhouse. That in turn brings more jobs and business etc.. A lot of people will never get this even if you explain it to them in baby talk. His problem at the time he was premier was he was to direct, not subtle enough. He didn't smile and sit on the fence like virtually every other politician does so in turn sectors of the public grew to hate him. Now we have Brax and all he does is smile, sit on the fence and spend, spend, spend and charge the public for things the government should provide free of charge.

Anyway that's how i see things.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

How do Hawks supporters and general AFL supporters think this man will go as Pres? Awesome move I would say

i don't trust him

 

[dipper86]

You'll find poorer people and less educated people voted him out because all they could see was him closing things down and selling off government run business to private enterprise etc. Some people think it's ok for the government to provide everything regardless of the strain that puts on the economy.

The reality was he was streamlining things and bringing Victoria back out of the red into a financial powerhouse. That in turn brings more jobs and business etc.. A lot of people will never get this even if you explain it to them in baby talk. His problem at the time he was premier was he was to direct, not subtle enough. He didn't smile and sit on the fence like virtually every other politician does so in turn sectors of the public grew to hate him. Now we have Brax and all he does is smile, sit on the fence and spend, spend, spend and charge the public for things the government should provide free of charge.

Anyway that's how i see things.

Hmm, from a bankrupt Victoria, the worst debt of any state in Australia to a AAA rating, what a terrible premier Kennet was. How could he do this to our State!!

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

how can you keep it AAA when you don't have any assets to keep it there than answer me that as there are no more schools to sell

 

[sir_jaycee]

i don't trust him

gone are the days when only people with intellect had internet access

 

[pazza]

You'll find poorer people and less educated people voted him out because all they could see was him closing things down and selling off government run business to private enterprise etc. Some people think it's ok for the government to provide everything regardless of the strain that puts on the economy.

The reality was he was streamlining things and bringing Victoria back out of the red into a financial powerhouse. That in turn brings more jobs and business etc.. A lot of people will never get this even if you explain it to them in baby talk. His problem at the time he was premier was he was to direct, not subtle enough. He didn't smile and sit on the fence like virtually every other politician does so in turn sectors of the public grew to hate him. Now we have Brax and all he does is smile, sit on the fence and spend, spend, spend and charge the public for things the government should provide free of charge.

Anyway that's how i see things.

Hardly. The 1999 election sweep was because of reasons more important than economic.

We're talking about leadership style. The way he would just say "this is it" and not involve the community in the decision making angered many.

The Toxic Dump debate in Werribee, then Niddrie, then Tullamarine is a classic case of that. The community down here rose as one against the proposal, which would have seen the toxic dump be within 1km of the Werribee South Market Gardens. 10000 went to the Werribee Racecourse on a bitterly cold and wet winters night, as part of the protest.

WE WON.

And the Liberal Branch in Werribee didn't exist for 4 years, as a result of the fallout.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

what is wrong with me not trusting him i will wait and see and he might grow on me so to speak he is a great hawk supporter i have to get past the political rubbish thats all

 

[Monkster]

You'll find poorer people and less educated people voted him out because all they could see was him closing things down and selling off government run business to private enterprise etc. Some people think it's ok for the government to provide everything regardless of the strain that puts on the economy.

The reality was he was streamlining things and bringing Victoria back out of the red into a financial powerhouse. That in turn brings more jobs and business etc.. A lot of people will never get this even if you explain it to them in baby talk. His problem at the time he was premier was he was to direct, not subtle enough. He didn't smile and sit on the fence like virtually every other politician does so in turn sectors of the public grew to hate him. Now we have Brax and all he does is smile, sit on the fence and spend, spend, spend and charge the public for things the government should provide free of charge.

Anyway that's how i see things.

were you one of those rich educated people who was complaining that bracks didn't do anything about the gas and electricity crisis when the government had no say in a privately run business?

 

[DonsRule]

You'll find poorer people and less educated people voted him out because all they could see was him closing things down and selling off government run business to private enterprise etc. Some people think it's ok for the government to provide everything regardless of the strain that puts on the economy.

The reality was he was streamlining things and bringing Victoria back out of the red into a financial powerhouse. That in turn brings more jobs and business etc.. A lot of people will never get this even if you explain it to them in baby talk. His problem at the time he was premier was he was to direct, not subtle enough. He didn't smile and sit on the fence like virtually every other politician does so in turn sectors of the public grew to hate him. Now we have Brax and all he does is smile, sit on the fence and spend, spend, spend and charge the public for things the government should provide free of charge.

Anyway that's how i see things.

Basicly what I though. It's easy to be a 'Great' Govenment when someone else laid the financial groundwork for you. Not a dig at Bracks, has done a great job, but I wonder how he'd go handel what Kennett had to handle?

 

[Hawkk]

what is wrong with me not trusting him i will wait and see and he might grow on me so to speak he is a great hawk supporter i have to get past the political rubbish thats all

He has a hatred for Essendon, thats a winner for me

He may slip something about the scum and banjo's and open a can of worms, I cant wait.

Seeing how he treated "Shawy" and Harvey its a positive sign, get ready to jump on the bandwagon if there is a man that can lead us to the ultimate glory it is he.

 

[_Ron_]

Basicly what I though. It's easy to be a 'Great' Govenment when someone else laid the financial groundwork for you. Not a dig at Bracks, has done a great job, but I wonder how he'd go handel what Kennett had to handle?

Be happy Howard is leading the nation. Notice how we have plenty of jobs and money these days. Life is good right now if you work for it..

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

He has a hatred for Essendon, thats a winner for me

He may slip something about the scum and banjo's and open a can of worms, I cant wait.

Seeing how he treated "Shawy" and Harvey its a positive sign, get ready to jump on the bandwagon if there is a man that can lead us to the ultimate glory it is he.

hope so

 

[The Wizard]

Hawthorn aren't a financial powerhouse. As stated by Scott, their Profit/Loss statements in the last few years have been largely distorted by the Waverley payout. As soon as that dripfeed stopped, they are back to posting losses.

There are about 3 financial powerhouses in Victoria & that's it.

 

[Gary Shadforth]

Jeff Kennett, having been born into an ALP family, I am diametrically opposed to his conservatism. However, let's keep out of the political aspect of his life.

I believe he will, as Hawthorn FC's president, be a huge asset. In particular in assisting to maintain and attract big corporates as sponsors adding to our existing impressive array, e.g: major naming rights sponsor HSBC a world bank, Puma, MBF, Wingara Wines, Mitsubishi Motors, Mirvac - hardly anyone bigger in Australia in property development, hotel and funds management, CUB, AGL, Australia Post a federal government enterprise, Coca Cola, Onelife and last but not least, BigPond.

Just as impressive, are our directors with whom Jeff will work. A humungas body of business gurus: Martin Jolly, our vice president and general manager of International Management Group (IMG), Ken Carnie, management roles at Bowater Scott, Elders, Nicholas and Ansell International and now Henry Jones IXL. Bruce Growcott, a finance and business development expert, Geoff Harris, a life long Hawks supporter, founding partner and substantial shareholder of Flight Centre Limited, a director and substantial shareholder of Boost Juice and a director of Reach Youth Children’s Foundation. Dennis Hogg, Chief Executive of Epworth Hospital since 1986, Greg Cook, holds a national management position with Business Travel International, Andrew Newbold, a partner at law firm Herbert Geer & Rundle, which specialises in commercial and insurance law. And of course there is Jason and Dermie. Jase is widely involved in various forms of media and Derm, well, he is an expert on football commentary and strategy.

Jeff will love being involved with them, that’s for certain!

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

it was not $1,000,000 it is only $250,000 it is not that bad

 

[Hawkk]

Hawthorn aren't a financial powerhouse. As stated by Scott, their Profit/Loss statements in the last few years have been largely distorted by the Waverley payout. As soon as that dripfeed stopped, they are back to posting losses.

There are about 3 financial powerhouses in Victoria & that's it.

No they havent, we are 14th in AFL handouts, we have a 20 000 000 dollar facility we are one of 3 clubs that own our home grounds not the council, we have 2 home bases.

Why arent we a power house, btw they havent been severly affected by the Waverely compo, how come we will only post a 250 000 dollar loss without the Waverely compo while finishing in the bottom 3 for the 2nd year in a row.

btw, who are the "Kangawho's"

 

[Hawkk]

it was not $1,000,000 it is only $250,000 it is not that bad

We will make it up through memberships and gates next year, 35 000 members and 45 000 gates here we come

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

yeah can't wait they will be firing next year

 

[Gary Shadforth]

Hawthorn aren't a financial powerhouse. As stated by Scott, their Profit/Loss statements in the last few years have been largely distorted by the Waverley payout. As soon as that dripfeed stopped, they are back to posting losses.

There are about 3 financial powerhouses in Victoria & that's it.

Absolute rubbish! $250,000 could be paid out our petty cash float. Ian Dicker actually had a smile on his face when he announced the loss, relieved it was so much smaller than expected.

If the Hawks have been posting losses who paid for the substantial real estate it owns, Glenferrie Oval and land and homes around and adjacent to it.

From memory it was announced in May that Hawthorn was the fourth most financial Victorian club. I'm checking the source and will appropriately edit this post with it when I have time.

 

[moistie]

Money cannot produce culture!

No? West Coast, Brisbane and Adelaide have the best facilities in the land (to be overtaken soon by Hawthorn and Footscray by the sounds of it) and its served them okay.

And if you're querying Hawthorns culture, nine premierships in thirty years indicates a strong one. And since the appointment of AC we haven't put a foot wrong, in my eyes. The Hawks are on the rise once more.

 

[Gary Shadforth]

It will be a happy transition!

 

[medusala]

were you one of those rich educated people who was complaining that bracks didn't do anything about the gas and electricity crisis when the government had no say in a privately run business?

The govt had no say in it when it was publicly owned, it was run by the unions just like the trams were.

 

[Flightleader]

Im thinking ed might tremble a little. he'll no longer be the most public pres in the land.

Jeff may you put the young buck in his place.

Hah I am looking forward to the next few years.