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Funny that a few years ago a couple of clubs didnt want Steve Johnson because they thought his ankle were stuffed. Looked what happened there. Maybe JWS could be in the same boat.
 
Funny that a few years ago a couple of clubs didnt want Steve Johnson because they thought his ankle were stuffed. Looked what happened there. Maybe JWS could be in the same boat.

Difference is that JWS hasn't played in two years and has never managed to string an uninjured season together.

We've invested so much hope in this kid it's very hard to be objective about him, but if I make the effort eventually it will have to be better to have a player than a heap of potential in the injury room. And if after all the club has tried he thinks he's worth more than a one year contract with conditions, good luck to him getting it somewhere else and nothing much we can do. No other club would have waited for him this long.
 

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I believe Brisbane is the likely destination with Geelong in the mix. I was told on the weekend he was keen to get to Geelong or Collingwood due to their Medical teams.
 
He's like Rusling really (but better), an obvious talent but unfortunately hasn't ever been able to get his body right. FWIW we gave Rus a 1 year deal this year so you never know, but some people just aren't up for the game body wise..
 
I believe Brisbane is the likely destination with Geelong in the mix. I was told on the weekend he was keen to get to Geelong or Collingwood due to their Medical teams.
You make it sound like the Cats and Pies have their own world leading hospitals on site that are filled with specialists from every field just waiting to cure any footy ailment.

Fact is that Con Mitropolous would likely have access to the same range of specialists that Chris Bradshaw has.
 
Fact is that Con Mitropolous would likely have access to the same range of specialists that Chris Bradshaw has.

But the Cats have the means and they spend a massive amount on their medical team. FFS they sent Rooke to Germany for a hamstring tear. They spare no expense. Same can't be said for the Roos.
 
But the Cats have the means and they spend a massive amount on their medical team. FFS they sent Rooke to Germany for a hamstring tear. They spare no expense. Same can't be said for the Roos.

How do you know we haven't gone to all means necessary to help Smith? If it was as simple as a trip to Germany, it would have been done, but it's different. It's a chronic ankle problem.

Michael Owen, now with Man U, has been constantly injured throughout his career... do you think this is due to a lack of medical treatment over his years at Real and Liverpool? I think not, his body is simply not up to it, it's the same with Smith.
 
Id love to get him, get him through some medical tests and fly in an expert from somewhere to have a look at him first of course. If they gave him better then a 60-70% chance to fully recover id pull the trigger, especially considering he wouldnt cost much.
 
You make it sound like the Cats and Pies have their own world leading hospitals on site that are filled with specialists from every field just waiting to cure any footy ailment.

Fact is that Con Mitropolous would likely have access to the same range of specialists that Chris Bradshaw has.

Think of it from a player's point of view though. Smith has broken down time and time again, then he sees Max Rooke and Steve Johnson play vital roles in a premiership after having their careers in doubt a few years ago through hamstring and ankle troubles.

Easy to be tempted by that.
 
On the cheap he would be worth a punt. I'd only trade for him whatever we will be giving 'free to a good home' again this year though.
 

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Think of it from a player's point of view though. Smith has broken down time and time again, then he sees Max Rooke and Steve Johnson play vital roles in a premiership after having their careers in doubt a few years ago through hamstring and ankle troubles.

Easy to be tempted by that.

Good to see a North supporter seeing the big picture, no doubt all players with injury setbacks would assess where they are at and assess if there other options out there.

No doubt most clubs would have access to similar medical expertise and technology the difference lies with what clubs can afford to engage these options.

People are kidding themselves if they don’t think the likes of Collingwood and West coast don’t have a lot more money to spend on these type of options.
 
Good to see a North supporter seeing the big picture, no doubt all players with injury setbacks would assess where they are at and assess if there other options out there.

No doubt most clubs would have access to similar medical expertise and technology the difference lies with what clubs can afford to engage these options.

People are kidding themselves if they don’t think the likes of Collingwood and West coast don’t have a lot more money to spend on these type of options.

They don't always get it right though. Didn't Collingwood reject Steve Johnson because of their own medical assessment?
 
Good to see a North supporter seeing the big picture, no doubt all players with injury setbacks would assess where they are at and assess if there other options out there.

No doubt most clubs would have access to similar medical expertise and technology the difference lies with what clubs can afford to engage these options.

People are kidding themselves if they don’t think the likes of Collingwood and West coast don’t have a lot more money to spend on these type of options.

Exactly, it's one thing having the cattle, it's another making sure they keep producing the goods. This is all outside of the cap, and it's why the richer teams are more successful, despite the same salary cap constraints as the poorer clubs.
 
Think of it from a player's point of view though. Smith has broken down time and time again, then he sees Max Rooke and Steve Johnson play vital roles in a premiership after having their careers in doubt a few years ago through hamstring and ankle troubles.

Easy to be tempted by that.
Well said, everyone forgets that Steve Johnson also has shocking ankles (its a risk everytime he plays at Etihad). Would love Smith and but i cant really what the Kangas would want from us, there is talk on our board of Wojak, however i think the roos would want someone a little younger. Sounds as if hes on his way to the GABBA though.

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How do you know we haven't gone to all means necessary to help Smith? If it was as simple as a trip to Germany, it would have been done, but it's different. It's a chronic ankle problem.

Do I really need to outline to you why the Roos might not be able to spend as much on medical/fitness services compared to some other clubs?

The most recent posts clearly spell out the situation.
 

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Do I really need to outline to you why the Roos might not be able to spend as much on medical/fitness services compared to some other clubs?

The most recent posts clearly spell out the situation.

North are poor, right? The fact is we'd have taken Jesse to see as many specialists as any club would. Funny how you disregard the rest of my post.
 
They don't always get it right though.

Very true, you only need to look at Matty Egan for proof of that.

I'm merely looking at it from JWS's point of view however, and, rightly or wrongly, he probably doesn't have a lot of trust in our medical staff and is probably adopting a 'grass is greener' approach to other clubs.
 
North are poor, right? The fact is we'd have taken Jesse to see as many specialists as any club would. Funny how you disregard the rest of my post.

The rest of your post was irrelevant. Has nothing to do with M. Owen or the EPL.

It appears that J. Smith wants to move on and one of his caveats is that he is off-loaded to a club, with what he perceives to be, an accomplished medical department. Why wouldn't he want to get the best help (as he sees it) available? It's not just about visiting specialists.

And yes, in relative terms, your club is poor.
 
The rest of your post was irrelevant. Has nothing to do with M. Owen or the EPL.

It appears that J. Smith wants to move on and one of his caveats is that he is off-loaded to a club, with what he perceives to be, an accomplished medical department. Why wouldn't he want to get the best help (as he sees it) available? It's not just about visiting specialists.

And yes, in relative terms, your club is poor.

Owen was relevant. It's an example that even if you have the best medical treatment available to you, it doesn't mean you will suddenly have your injuries cured and be fit to play a professional sport.

I understand if Smith wants to move on, but if people are saying it's because he'll get better medical treatment elsewhere, well that's just bullshit.
 
If a "Joel MacDonald" is the market rate for Jess Smith then I reckon the Crows (which would fit the bill re well resourced medical staff) should throw an offer out there.

Any one of Richard Douglas, Jon Griffin or Brent Reilly would have similar or better credentials to JM and would get more opportunities presumably with North.

Feel for the Roos though if they are seeing a potential gun sliding away.
 

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