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jules101

Norm Smith Medallist
Jun 3, 2005
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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20487155-2722,00.html

TWO-TIME Essendon best-and-fairest winner Jason Johnson could walk away from Windy Hill if his dispute with the Bombers is not resolved.

Melbourne yesterday emerged as his potential new club after the Demons indicated their willingness to discuss the future of the 28-year-old midfielder.

It is believed the Demons not only have room to manoeuvre within their salary cap, but would be prepared to offer Johnson a contract for at least two years.

Johnson, who is out of contract, has only been offered a one-year deal by the Bombers which has caused friction between the player and club.

His manager Michael Quinlan sent Johnson's demands to Essendon on Tuesday, but is yet to hear from the club.

"He won't be signing a one-year deal, I can tell you that much," Quinlan said yesterday. "It's totally unacceptable.

"We put our position to the Bombers and we're waiting for their response.

"The key is the term in the deal we have sought from Essendon and I would have thought Bombers supporters would want him for at least two more seasons."

Quinlan denied he had given Essendon an ultimatum, but was adamant Johnson would not stay at Windy Hill unless he was offered a contract over a longer period.

"I'm not going to be drawn on the interest shown from other clubs at this stage," Quinlan said.

The Bombers have a number of players out of contract, including Dean Solomon, who has also been offered a one-year deal, Adam McPhee and Jason Laycock.

Essendon general manager of media Simon Matthews said yesterday the club was in negotiations with the management of Johnson, Solomon, McPhee and Laycock.

"They've all got offers from the club in front of them, but as a club policy, specifics are not anything we talk about," Matthews said.

A nagging pre-season injury severely restricted Johnson in the first half of the year but despite his sluggish start, he managed 19 games with his best performance coming in round 15 against St Kilda when he had 41 possessions.

The 2001 and 2005 best-and-fairest winner has played 170 games since making his debut in 1997.

Meanwhile, Carlton is confident of retaining its required players, including Brad Fisher and Bret Thornton, who are both out of contract.

Blues general manager of football operations Grant Williams said he expected the pair, and another 10 uncontracted players, to agree to terms in the near future.

Richmond confirmed its interest in Fremantle key-position player Graham Polak, but football director Greg Miller said the Tigers would not start to lobby for a trade until he had spoken to Polak, which he said was likely to happen within a week.

Polak, who has also been linked to the Western Bulldogs, played 11 games this season for a career tally of 73 in five years. But he played just once since round 13 and was overlooked in Fremantle's three finals appearances.

Richmond, which will add at least one additional assistant coach for next season, has interviewed Craig McRae, the recently retired Blake Caracella, who played under Kevin Sheedy, Leigh Matthews and Mick Malthouse, and Ashley Prescott, who has been coaching Claremont in the WAFL in recent seasons after a playing career with Richmond and Fremantle.

Adelaide will start 2007 with a completely new ruck division than the one it finished with in 2006.

Rhett Biglands will miss next year after last night undergoing a reconstruction to his left knee after rupturing the anterior cruciate ligament early against West Coast last Saturday.

And veteran big man Matthew Clarke is expected to announce his retirement after 14 seasons with Brisbane and the Crows.
 
It does indeed desrerve its own thread, the draft/trade thread is getting way to long and teadious to look through now lol
It was interesting to hear Lloyd comments on WLF , said that McPhee would stay as he was a big priority but JJ was the heartbreaker beacause the club sees him as being worth a 1 year deal only. I know the club wont say anything about it but i suspect that they are still concerned about his foot injury.There where concerns that his surgery didnt go as well as expected early this year. His form was great in the last half of the year but is there still concern as to weather he can stand up? Particualry over pre season .
 

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****ing disgraceful if he leaves. The way I see it, is that all the smart cookies have got together and gone " Ohh, JJ is struggling this year, let`s play hard ball, ****, let`s drop him, ha, let`s offer him one year. Disgraceful. He turned it on in the last third of the the season, back to his best. I don`t blame him assesing his options, one year is ****ing insulting.
 
Just emailed the club about this. Thinks it's the second email i've ever sent them (and **** all good it'll do). It's a disgusting display of loyalty by our club - and i can't think of how they can possibly justify it based on what he's done and what he's shown he's capable of still doing.
 
Darealrath said:
Just emailed the club about this. Thinks it's the second email i've ever sent them (and **** all good it'll do). It's a disgusting display of loyalty by our club - and i can't think of how they can possibly justify it based on what he's done and what he's shown he's capable of still doing.
Suggest you write a letter rather than email. An email will just be stored in memory somewhere. Someone has to open a letter, allocate it to someone to deal with, open a file or add it to a file. Not that it will do much good, clubs don't care about supporters views, only their patronage.

Loyalty is marketing department speak. Footballers are expensive and the club has to find the money to pay them. Even well heeled clubs have to get value for money, that's management and Essendon has a reputation for being well managed. The club will know a lot about Johnson's injury, state of mind, club needs etc. Essendon has had to carry Hird through his injury woes but he's a champion and has marketing cache, Johnson is and has neither to anywhere near that extent so the club needs to be careful about him. If he's ok, then he'll be offered a deal at the end of 2007.

It's none of my business and I only watch Essendon on Friday nights when it's on TV and when it plays my mob but I reckon Johnson is over rated, especially this year. I'd be behind the club on this one.
 

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Rodgerramjet said:
I've always had a lot of respect for Jason Johnson down there at bomberland, I'm really surprised that he is being treated this way. Has he fallen out with Sheedy?

I think there is more to it than is being said. Dont be surprised if it has more to do with injury risk rather than the man himself.;)
 
The "injured foot and concerns about it's ability to hold up over the coming season" scenario is the only one that makes sense.
 
JJ has been a very consistant player for us over the years. He had a slow start this year but he did have an interupted pre-season. I value him to our club and believe he deserves a 2 year deal. It would be ashame to see him finish his career at another club. He is after all a 3 time best & fairest winner.
 
I agree it's insulting that JJ has only been offered a 1 year deal, but I think people are getting a little carried away.

If you read the article, his manager states that they have explained their position to the club and are waiting for a response.

It sounds very much to me like Essendon has offered a 1 year deal, JJ and his manager has said no and the ball is now in the clubs court. It doesn't really sound like Essendon are playing hardball, perhaps just sending a message that we can't afford to tolerate down years from senior players?

I'd be stunned if he wasn't offered a two year deal.
 
JJ should look somewhere else then... serves us right for playing hardball with one of our best...
If he was asking for 3 years, i would say he was being greedy, but i think 2 years is more then reasonable, and that he will have a great year next year if he gets 2 years. If essendon don't offer it, well all the best to Johnson in the future, whereever he goes will become my number 2 team.... unless it's the wobbles. :p
 
How old his JJ?

He did have a very slow start to the year and his year wasn't as good as his last few years have been. So I agree with what Longy said about Essendon making a statement to their players "Your not guaranteed your spot whoever you are"

I would be shocked if he wasn't given that 2 year deal, he has been a great player and deserves more time.

-Mav
 

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D Mitchell said:
Loyalty is marketing department speak. Footballers are expensive and the club has to find the money to pay them. Even well heeled clubs have to get value for money, that's management and Essendon has a reputation for being well managed. The club will know a lot about Johnson's injury, state of mind, club needs etc. Essendon has had to carry Hird through his injury woes but he's a champion and has marketing cache, Johnson is and has neither to anywhere near that extent so the club needs to be careful about him. If he's ok, then he'll be offered a deal at the end of 2007..

So what of Sheedy with Rioli? A construct of the marketing department? The redrafting of Heffernan? Keeping Ramma on the senior list for 06? Loyalty still seems to hold some sway around Windy Hill..
 
why cant they offered a performance based contract that gives jj the option for the second year if he plays 15-16 games minimum in 2007 its rediculous really.

What i think there doing is putting him out on the market to see what they can get for him, if something warants a trade they'll think about it, if not they will sign him for 2 years the moment trade week finishes. Its what hapened to soloman last time and he nearly walked when the club made an offer that was at the time too late.
 
JJ has been a great of our club and alway's will be, regardless where he plays next season. It shouldn't be taken into account when his new deal is offered. Good clubman won't win us a flag.
 
Barnsey3150 said:
JJ has been a very consistant player for us over the years. He had a slow start this year but he did have an interupted pre-season. I value him to our club and believe he deserves a 2 year deal. It would be ashame to see him finish his career at another club. He is after all a 3 time best & fairest winner.

He should be a one club player- if he's good enough to go to another club, he's good enough for EFC because lets face it, we did finish second last.
 
JJ, the new Misiti and Mercuri of Essendon.

Years of loyal service, premierships - then shipped around like a whore.

We are good.

Having said that, someone else mentioned what I think we shoudl do is offer 1 that has a 2nd year with clauses.

Geez, Rioli got 2 last year and had to call it quits, why could that not happen with J if it goes bad?????
 
Pevers-Legend said:
Geez, Rioli got 2 last year and had to call it quits, why could that not happen with J if it goes bad?????

Learnt our lesson perhaps?

He'll get two in the end and I don't think we've whored him around. Not yet anyway.
 

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