JLT Series Discussion Thread

[TheOz]

Mid range cash cows are fraught with danger.

For example:
I'm grappling over my own more expensive mid rangers with Bob Murphy (or I am to use Macmillan), Hvorat, Higgins, and JOM.

34 year old coming back from an acl, not sure of that one.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

34 year old coming back from an acl, not sure of that one.

Point well taken, now feeling a bit stupid, I suppose I was hopeful he would still be capable of getting a mid 90 average.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Point well taken, now feeling a bit stupid, I suppose I was hopeful he would still be capable of getting a mid 90 average.

Has gone 95+ in 2 of his 12 years, and one of those years was only 3 games. Avoid.

 

[JustInsideFifty]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...n/news-story/6eb50d6571aa6d494f54dc6d68f6403c

1. Nat Fyfe ($573,500, Mid) Fremantle

Ownership: 50.8%. Previous: 1 (54.4%)

The Dockers superstar remains the No. 1 pick after two rounds of the JLT Community Series. Fyfe posted a promising 93 in his first hit-out in 84 per cent ground time against West Coast.


2. Patrick Dangerfield ($716,900, Mid) Geelong

Ownership: 49.0%. Previous: 3 (48.9%)

The Brownlow Medallist moves up one position after a strong start to his pre-season campaign, scoring 117 in 82 per cent time on ground in Week 1.

3. Max Gawn ($645,000, Ruck) Melbourne

Ownership: 47.0%. Previous: 4 (45.7%)

Gawn has been sharing ruck duties with Jake Spencer during the JLT Series, seeing him underwhelm with scores of 94 and 78. We don’t expect that to continue come Round 1.

4. Luke Dahlhaus ($520,700, Fwd-Mid) W. Bulldogs

Ownership: 40.6%. Previous: 8 (38.5%)

The most popular forward after a massive 143 in his only pre-season appearance so far. A SuperCoach gun that can win possessions, loves to tackle and kicks goals.

5. David Swallow ($280,200, Mid) Gold Coast

Ownership: 39.5%. Previous: 7 (39.0%)

Early signs are positive for Swallow with scores of 80 (53 per cent game time) and 82 (70% TOG) in his two JLT games. Due to a lack of obvious midfield cash cows, he looms as a must-have.

6. Hugh McCluggage ($202,800, Mid-Fwd) Brisbane

Ownership: 38.3%. Previous: 6 (41.2%)

The No. 3 draft pick has had one game this pre-season, scoring 67, which is enough to suggest he’s firmly in the frame for Round 1. That price tag is off-putting but midfield cash cows look hard to find at this point.

7. Jarryd Roughead ($367,100, Fwd) Hawthorn

Ownership: 39.7%. Previous: 11 (32.0%)

The new Hawks skipper looks back to his best after scores of 63 in 83 per cent time on ground and 95 (85% TOG)


8. Sam Powell-Pepper ($135,300, Mid) Port Adelaide

Ownership: 36.4%. Previous: 12 (31.8%)

Port’s top draft pick’s first outing was full of promising moments. In his 67 per cent game time, SPP managed 56 points. We’ll hopefully have two more looks at him before Round 1.

9. Jaeger O’Meara ($318,900, Mid) Hawthorn

Ownership: 33.4%. Previous: N/A

The boom Hawks recruit has certainly made a splash in his two games and has rocketed into the top 10 most popular picks. Has posted 44 (47 per cent game time) and 90 (81% TOG).

10. Andrew McGrath ($211,800, Def-Mid) Essendon

Ownership: 32.5%. Previous: 5 (43.6%)

The No. 1 draft pick has dropped sharply in popularity after two pre-season games. Perhaps due to his price or the rise of cheaper cash cow options. Scores of 35 and 54.

11. Taylor Adams ($527,800, Def-Mid) Collingwood

Ownership: 31.3%. Previous 10 (32.2%)

12. Luke Ryan ($117,300, Def) Fremantle

Ownership: 29.6%. Previous: 9 (34.5%)

13. Heath Shaw ($576,500, Def) GWS Giants

Ownership: 28.7%. Previous: 17 (30.1%)


14. Isaac Heeney ($433,400, Fwd) Sydney

Ownership: 28.1%. Previous: 18 (28.5%)

15. Mitchell Hibberd ($123,900, Def-Mid) North Melbourne

Ownership: 27.4%. Previous: N/A

16. Tom Stewart ($117,300, Def) Geelong

Ownership: 26.3%. Previous: N/A

17. Brett Eddy ($102,400, Fwd) Port Adelaide

Ownership: 25.7%. Previous: N/A

18. Jarrod Pickett ($123,900, Mid-Fwd) Carlton

Ownership: 25.4%. Previous: 20 (26.9%)

19. Nathan Freeman ($123,900, Mid) St Kilda

Ownership: 24.8%. Previous: 15 (30.5%)

20. Aaron Black ($137,100, Fwd) Geelong

Ownership: 24.3%. Previous: N/A

Says teams are getting more diverse... hold your ownership % = move up
No research, but expect this would be opposite of the usual?

 

[JustInsideFifty]

Can Grundy go 100+ in your opinion?

Know you asked Steve, but I've had few so I'll jump in too...
Think Grundy can go 100+, but he won't have the big scores that Gawn / Goldy can have... he will give you a lot of scores 90<Grundy<110 imo...
Another thing to consider is that he hasn't played 22 games in a season yet.
My prediction: 20 games @ 103

 

[Thuggee_Cult]

FRIDAY, MARCH 3
Greater Western Sydney v Sydney, Blacktown International Sportspark, 7.40pm AEDT

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
1. Phil Davis, 3. Stephen Coniglio, 4. Toby Greene, 5. Dylan Shiel, 8. Callan Ward, 9. Tom Scully, 10. Devon Smith, 11. Will Setterfield, 12. Jonathon Patton, 14. Tim Taranto, 15. Matthew Kennedy, 16. Nathan Wilson, 17. Steve Johnson, 18. Jeremy Cameron*, 19. Nick Haynes, 20. Adam Tomlinson, 21. Matt Buntine, 22. Josh Kelly, 23. Heath Shaw, 26. Dawson Simpson, 27. Harrison Himmelberg, 29. Zac Williams, 32. Ryan Griffen, 35. Aidan Corr, 36. Harry Perryman, 37. Rory Lobb, 38. Daniel Lloyd, 40. Adam Kennedy, 41. Shane Mumford

Notable absentees: Matt de Boer, Brett Deledio, Jacob Hopper, Tim Mohr, Tendai Mzungu, Lachie Tiziani, Lachie Whitfield

SYDNEY
4. Daniel Hannebery, 6. Jordan Foote, 7. Harry Cunningham, 8. Kurt Tippett, 9. Will Hayward, 10. Zak Jones, 11. Jeremy Laidler, 12. Josh Kennedy, 13. Oliver Florent, 14. Callum Mills, 17. Darcy Cameron, 18. Callum Sinclair, 20. Sam Reid, 21. Jack Maibaum, 22. Dean Towers, 23. Lance Franklin, 24. Dane Rampe, 26. Luke Parker, 27. Daniel Robinson, 28. Nic Newman, 29. George Hewett, 31. Harrison Marsh, 35. Sam Naismith, 38. Colin O'Riordan, 39. Heath Grundy, 40. Nick Smith, 42. Robbie Fox, 43. Lewis Melican, 44. Jake Lloyd

Notable absentees: Aliir Aliir, Shaun Edwards, Isaac Heeney, Kieren Jack, Jarrad McVeigh, Tom Papley, Gary Rohan, James Rose, Michael Talia

____________________________________________________
Rookies in bold

* Players of interest for NSWCrow


Both teams look a little closer to full strength than their last JLT games. My thoughts:

- I'd be super moist if Lloyd stays in that GWS team, I reckon that he or Taranto will start in Round 1.
- Interesting that Maibaum has got a game ahead of Talia
- Cameron still in squad even with Naimsmiths inclusion
- Newman & ORiordan will play off for the same spot
- Am keen to see Hayward

 

[stevebbb]

FRIDAY, MARCH 3
Greater Western Sydney v Sydney, Blacktown International Sportspark, 7.40pm AEDT

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
1. Phil Davis, 3. Stephen Coniglio, 4. Toby Greene, 5. Dylan Shiel, 8. Callan Ward, 9. Tom Scully, 10. Devon Smith, 11. Will Setterfield, 12. Jonathon Patton, 14. Tim Taranto, 15. Matthew Kennedy, 16. Nathan Wilson, 17. Steve Johnson, 18. Jeremy Cameron*, 19. Nick Haynes, 20. Adam Tomlinson, 21. Matt Buntine, 22. Josh Kelly, 23. Heath Shaw, 26. Dawson Simpson, 27. Harrison Himmelberg, 29. Zac Williams, 32. Ryan Griffen, 35. Aidan Corr, 36. Harry Perryman, 37. Rory Lobb, 38. Daniel Lloyd, 40. Adam Kennedy, 41. Shane Mumford

Notable absentees: Matt de Boer, Brett Deledio, Jacob Hopper, Tim Mohr, Tendai Mzungu, Lachie Tiziani, Lachie Whitfield

SYDNEY
4. Daniel Hannebery, 6. Jordan Foote, 7. Harry Cunningham, 8. Kurt Tippett, 9. Will Hayward, 10. Zak Jones, 11. Jeremy Laidler, 12. Josh Kennedy, 13. Oliver Florent, 14. Callum Mills, 17. Darcy Cameron, 18. Callum Sinclair, 20. Sam Reid, 21. Jack Maibaum, 22. Dean Towers, 23. Lance Franklin, 24. Dane Rampe, 26. Luke Parker, 27. Daniel Robinson, 28. Nic Newman, 29. George Hewett, 31. Harrison Marsh, 35. Sam Naismith, 38. Colin O'Riordan, 39. Heath Grundy, 40. Nick Smith, 42. Robbie Fox, 43. Lewis Melican, 44. Jake Lloyd

Notable absentees: Aliir Aliir, Shaun Edwards, Isaac Heeney, Kieren Jack, Jarrad McVeigh, Tom Papley, Gary Rohan, James Rose, Michael Talia

____________________________________________________
Rookies in bold

* Players of interest for NSWCrow


Both teams look a little closer to full strength than their last JLT games. My thoughts:

- I'd be super moist if Lloyd stays in that GWS team, I reckon that he or Taranto will start in Round 1.
- Interesting that Maibaum has got a game ahead of Talia
- Cameron still in squad even with Naimsmiths inclusion
- Newman & ORiordan will play off for the same spot
- Am keen to see Hayward

Excited to get a look at Toby Greene and Devon Smith
Another good performance from Mills and I'm throwing away the key

and most of all, MUMMY IS PLAYING!!!!!!!
THE ANSWER TO OUR RUCK PROBLEM MAY HAVE ARRIVED!!!

 

[toxic]

FRIDAY, MARCH 3
Greater Western Sydney v Sydney, Blacktown International Sportspark, 7.40pm AEDT

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
1. Phil Davis, 3. Stephen Coniglio, 4. Toby Greene, 5. Dylan Shiel, 8. Callan Ward, 9. Tom Scully, 10. Devon Smith, 11. Will Setterfield, 12. Jonathon Patton, 14. Tim Taranto, 15. Matthew Kennedy, 16. Nathan Wilson, 17. Steve Johnson, 18. Jeremy Cameron*, 19. Nick Haynes, 20. Adam Tomlinson, 21. Matt Buntine, 22. Josh Kelly, 23. Heath Shaw, 26. Dawson Simpson, 27. Harrison Himmelberg, 29. Zac Williams, 32. Ryan Griffen, 35. Aidan Corr, 36. Harry Perryman, 37. Rory Lobb, 38. Daniel Lloyd, 40. Adam Kennedy, 41. Shane Mumford

Notable absentees: Matt de Boer, Brett Deledio, Jacob Hopper, Tim Mohr, Tendai Mzungu, Lachie Tiziani, Lachie Whitfield

SYDNEY
4. Daniel Hannebery, 6. Jordan Foote, 7. Harry Cunningham, 8. Kurt Tippett, 9. Will Hayward, 10. Zak Jones, 11. Jeremy Laidler, 12. Josh Kennedy, 13. Oliver Florent, 14. Callum Mills, 17. Darcy Cameron, 18. Callum Sinclair, 20. Sam Reid, 21. Jack Maibaum, 22. Dean Towers, 23. Lance Franklin, 24. Dane Rampe, 26. Luke Parker, 27. Daniel Robinson, 28. Nic Newman, 29. George Hewett, 31. Harrison Marsh, 35. Sam Naismith, 38. Colin O'Riordan, 39. Heath Grundy, 40. Nick Smith, 42. Robbie Fox, 43. Lewis Melican, 44. Jake Lloyd

Notable absentees: Aliir Aliir, Shaun Edwards, Isaac Heeney, Kieren Jack, Jarrad McVeigh, Tom Papley, Gary Rohan, James Rose, Michael Talia

____________________________________________________
Rookies in bold

* Players of interest for NSWCrow


Both teams look a little closer to full strength than their last JLT games. My thoughts:

- I'd be super moist if Lloyd stays in that GWS team, I reckon that he or Taranto will start in Round 1.
- Interesting that Maibaum has got a game ahead of Talia
- Cameron still in squad even with Naimsmiths inclusion
- Newman & ORiordan will play off for the same spot
- Am keen to see Hayward

Hayward!
J.McVeigh (I think it was him) was talking him up over all the rookies.

 

[Huttabito]

Hayward!
J.McVeigh (I think it was him) was talking him up over all the rookies.

Well I hope he lives up to the same hype as Hampton did with Betts praise.

 

[Flandersss]

Hayward!
J.McVeigh (I think it was him) was talking him up over all the rookies.

Could be the Papley/Rohan hybrid

 

[Double the Fist]

Could be the Papley/Rohan hybrid

Paphan?

 

[Thuggee_Cult]

Hayward!
J.McVeigh (I think it was him) was talking him up over all the rookies.

I hope he plays
McVeigh has done his calf again too, will miss 3-4 weeks

 

[Huttabito]

I hope he plays
McVeigh has done his calf again too, will miss 3-4 weeks

Which means he could be back for Rd2. Surely if he is good to go he will kick on of the rookies back out of the side?

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Might preemptively jump on the Mummy train so I can claim him after he kills the Swans...

 

[G-TRAIN07]

Might preemptively jump on the Mummy train so I can claim him after he kills the Swans...

Kills the swans or someone on the field

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Have had a few jump up my watchlist throughout the JLT so far;
Tuohy was the first one. Wasn't even considering him, you can't just replace Boris Enright, but he looked good in his first game and it looked like Geelong were happy to use him as the designated kicker out of the back 50, has always had a good DE%, and had a stack of score involvements + had a killer run at the end of last year. I don't recall a defender breaking out into premo status at 27 years old, but is certainly one I'll be watching carefully over the next 2 weeks.
Bernie Vince has also climbed quite significantly, was the inverse to Tuohy last year and had some woeful games as the season dragged on. Was very keen on him when SC opened and then lost interest pretty quickly after looking at the run home he had and realising he was 31 years old, thought he was like 27 lol. Has looked handy across the half-back line for the Dee's in their 2 games so far.
And the last one is Caddy, didn't think he was outstanding in the Tiges hit-out, and was quite handball happy, but did some good things that I liked (2 contested marks, 76% DE and 7 score involvements). Notched up nice a score for the amount of time he was on the field. Still worried about whether or not his body will hold up though. Had him replace Macrae at F3 once I decided I was a bit too round 11 heavy.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Kills the swans or someone on the field

Both.

 

[CrozaN]

CARLTON
7. Dylan Buckley, 9. Patrick Cripps, 10. Harry McKay, 11. Sam Kerridge, 12. Blaine Boekhorst, 13. Jed Lamb, 14. Liam Jones, 16. Billie Smedts, 17. Sam Rowe, 18. Kristian Jaksch, 19. Liam Sumner, 20. Lachie Plowman, 22. Caleb Marchbank, 23. Jacob Weitering, 24. Rhys Palmer, 25. Zac Fisher, 26. Harrison Macreadie, 27. Dennis Armfield, 28. David Cuningham, 29. Cameron Polson, 30. Charlie Curnow, 31. Tom Williamson, 32. Nick Graham, 33. Jarrod Pickett, 35. Ed Curnow, 39. Dale Thomas, 42. Kym LeBois, 43. Simon White, 48. Matthew Korcheck

Notable absentees: Jack Silvagni, Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Kade Simpson, Matthew Kreuzer, Sam Docherty

ST KILDA
2. Jake Carlisle, 3. Jack Steven, 4. Jade Gresham, 5. Shane Savage, 6. Seb Ross, 7. Luke Dunstan, 8. Blake Acres, 9. Jack Steele, 13. Jack Lonie, 15. Jack Billings, 16. Jack Newnes, 18. Billy Longer, 20. David Armitage, 21. Ben Long, 22. Nathan Brown, 24. Sean Dempster, 25. Koby Stevens, 26. Josh Battle, 27. Josh Bruce, 28. Tim Membrey, 29. Jimmy Webster, 32. Paddy McCartin, 33. Nick O’Kearney, 34. Nathan Wright, 35. Jack Sinclair, 36. Daniel McKenzie, 37. Bailey Rice, 41. Darren Minchington, 43. Rowan Marshall

Notable absentees: Leigh Montagna, Tom Hickey, Mav Weller, Sam Gilbert, Dylan Roberton, Jarryn Geary, Nick Riewoldt

Fremantle v Collingwood, Rushton Park, 1.40pm AWST

FREMANTLE
1. Hayden Ballantyne, 3. Zac Dawson, 4. Sean Darcy, 5. Garrick Ibbotson, 6. Danyle Pearce, 7. Nat Fyfe, 8. Nick Suban, 9. Bradley Hill, 10. Michael Walters, 12. Jon Griffin, 14. Lachie Weller, 15. Ethan Hughes, 16. David Mundy, 17. Hayden Crozier, 18. Darcy Tucker, 19. Connor Blakely, 21. Joel Hamling, 22. Shane Kersten, 23. Cam Mccarthy, 26. Ed Langdon, 27. Lachie Neale, 31. Aaron Sandilands!!!!, 32. Stephen Hill, 33. Cam Sutcliffe, 34. Lee Spurr, 35. Michael Apeness, 36. Brennan Cox, 37. Michael Johnson, 40. Sam Collins

Notable absentees: Harley Bennell, Zac Clarke, Griffin Logue, Matt Taberner

COLLINGWOOD
1. Alex Fasolo, 2. Jordan De Goey, 4. Brodie Grundy, 6. Tyson Goldsack, 7. Adam Treloar, 9. Jesse White, 10. Scott Pendlebury, 11. Jarryd Blair, 12. Matthew Scharenberg, 13. Taylor Adams, 14. James Aish, 15. Lynden Dunn, 16. Chris Mayne, 18. Travis Varcoe, 19. Levi Greenwood, 21. Tom Phillips, 22. Steele Sidebottom, 23. Lachlan Keeffe, 24. Josh Thomas, 25. Jack Crisp, 26. Josh Daicos, 30. Darcy Moore, 31. Jackson Ramsay, 32. Will Hoskin-Elliott, 37. Brayden Maynard, 38. Jeremy Howe, 41. Henry Schade, 43. Adam Oxley, 46. Mason Cox

Notable absentees: Daniel Wells, Jamie Elliott, Tom Langdon, Callum Brown, Ben Reid, Ben Sinclair, Josh Smith

 

[Flandersss]

Cripps & Long

 

[PoopingHindi]

CARLTON
7. Dylan Buckley, 9. Patrick Cripps, 10. Harry McKay, 11. Sam Kerridge, 12. Blaine Boekhorst, 13. Jed Lamb, 14. Liam Jones, 16. Billie Smedts, 17. Sam Rowe, 18. Kristian Jaksch, 19. Liam Sumner, 20. Lachie Plowman, 22. Caleb Marchbank, 23. Jacob Weitering, 24. Rhys Palmer, 25. Zac Fisher, 26. Harrison Macreadie, 27. Dennis Armfield, 28. David Cuningham, 29. Cameron Polson, 30. Charlie Curnow, 31. Tom Williamson, 32. Nick Graham, 33. Jarrod Pickett, 35. Ed Curnow, 39. Dale Thomas, 42. Kym LeBois, 43. Simon White, 48. Matthew Korcheck

Notable absentees: Jack Silvagni, Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, Sam Petrevski-Seton, Kade Simpson, Matthew Kreuzer, Sam Docherty

ST KILDA
2. Jake Carlisle, 3. Jack Steven, 4. Jade Gresham, 5. Shane Savage, 6. Seb Ross, 7. Luke Dunstan, 8. Blake Acres, 9. Jack Steele, 13. Jack Lonie, 15. Jack Billings, 16. Jack Newnes, 18. Billy Longer, 20. David Armitage, 21. Ben Long, 22. Nathan Brown, 24. Sean Dempster, 25. Koby Stevens, 26. Josh Battle, 27. Josh Bruce, 28. Tim Membrey, 29. Jimmy Webster, 32. Paddy McCartin, 33. Nick O’Kearney, 34. Nathan Wright, 35. Jack Sinclair, 36. Daniel McKenzie, 37. Bailey Rice, 41. Darren Minchington, 43. Rowan Marshall

Notable absentees: Leigh Montagna, Tom Hickey, Mav Weller, Sam Gilbert, Dylan Roberton, Jarryn Geary, Nick Riewoldt

Fremantle v Collingwood, Rushton Park, 1.40pm AWST

FREMANTLE
1. Hayden Ballantyne, 3. Zac Dawson, 4. Sean Darcy, 5. Garrick Ibbotson, 6. Danyle Pearce, 7. Nat Fyfe, 8. Nick Suban, 9. Bradley Hill, 10. Michael Walters, 12. Jon Griffin, 14. Lachie Weller, 15. Ethan Hughes, 16. David Mundy, 17. Hayden Crozier, 18. Darcy Tucker, 19. Connor Blakely, 21. Joel Hamling, 22. Shane Kersten, 23. Cam Mccarthy, 26. Ed Langdon, 27. Lachie Neale, 31. Aaron Sandilands, 32. Stephen Hill, 33. Cam Sutcliffe, 34. Lee Spurr, 35. Michael Apeness, 36. Brennan Cox, 37. Michael Johnson, 40. Sam Collins

Notable absentees: Harley Bennell, Zac Clarke, Griffin Logue, Matt Taberner

COLLINGWOOD
1. Alex Fasolo, 2. Jordan De Goey, 4. Brodie Grundy, 6. Tyson Goldsack, 7. Adam Treloar, 9. Jesse White, 10. Scott Pendlebury, 11. Jarryd Blair, 12. Matthew Scharenberg, 13. Taylor Adams, 14. James Aish, 15. Lynden Dunn, 16. Chris Mayne, 18. Travis Varcoe, 19. Levi Greenwood, 21. Tom Phillips, 22. Steele Sidebottom, 23. Lachlan Keeffe, 24. Josh Thomas, 25. Jack Crisp, 26. Josh Daicos, 30. Darcy Moore, 31. Jackson Ramsay, 32. Will Hoskin-Elliott, 37. Brayden Maynard, 38. Jeremy Howe, 41. Henry Schade, 43. Adam Oxley, 46. Mason Cox

Notable absentees: Daniel Wells, Jamie Elliott, Tom Langdon, Callum Brown, Ben Reid, Ben Sinclair, Josh Smith

no Hickey...interesting.
looking forward to seeing Cripps. if he moves well he's locked in.

 

[Hairy Lager]

Looking forward to seeing Sandi and Grundy square up.

 

[Huttabito]

Looking forward to seeing Sandi and Grundy square up.

Grundy -> Sandilands trades incoming

 

[Flandersss]

Grundy -> Sandilands trades incoming

Gawnstein FTW

 

[CrozaN]

Looking forward to seeing Sandi and Grundy square up.

Same here! Both are switching in and out of my R2 atm, but seems so is every other ruck atm LOL

 

[Hairy Lager]

Gawlands and JOM at M7 FTW.