Podcast Joe Rogan Experience

[EasternTiger]

Dear oh dear

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Well that's quite disappointing.

 

[Dan]

 

[Contra Mundum]

Ah yeah they do.

There's other people out there who do.

Andrew Schulz Flagrant 2 podcast would have a decent cross over with the Rogan audience for one.

Tim Dillon another.

I think Rogan is actually good at it - he has an inquiring mind and he asks open questions. Weird that that is rare.

 

[Bostonian]

I think Rogan is actually good at it - he has an inquiring mind and he asks open questions. Weird that that is rare.

Once people move away from the ridiculous assertion that JR is some alt-right gateway then the more likely they will find the actual people who his podcast has more in common with are generally from the comedy scene background.

 

[M Malice]

That was fantastic support for Joe, anybody that has anything at all to do with Joe personally can't speak highly enough of him, he's a great human being.

I would bet my left nut that those who are all over Joe calling him out don't know him personally and/or have watched very little of his content over the years.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Once people move away from the ridiculous assertion that JR is some alt-right gateway then the more likely they will find the actual people who his podcast has more in common with are generally from the comedy scene background.

CNN and MSM are still trying the labels but are stumped at how they are going to take Rogan down.
'why do people love Rogan more than us'

Skip to 2.45

 

[Fwoy]

 

[Contra Mundum]

Once people move away from the ridiculous assertion that JR is some alt-right gateway then the more likely they will find the actual people who his podcast has more in common with are generally from the comedy scene background.

I don't think he should be censored and I think he is quite talented but he has had some alt right freaks on his show Specifically, Gavin McInnes, Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones, and Jordy Peterson who is just a grifter for people who have never read any critical theory and think "women are chaos" is a blinding insight. The fact he does no research, never critically engages with them and laughs along is a problem in those circumstances

 

[M Malice]

Again, none of the "Joe is a right wing racist" narrative pushers would even bother to watch that 2 minutes of video because it might cause them to open their minds and hearts and dig a little bit deeper into what Joe is all about rather than base their opinion of him on 60 seconds of clickbait footage that has no context explained.

 

[Marcel Proust]

This needs to be quoted for truth. Pathetic display of virtue signalling.
And yes , trolling through past comments looking for nuggets is a pathetic embarrassing activity.

Its interesting these racist. Homophobic types are (some of)* the ones saying Joe's not pc enough

 

[Eagle Wrath]

Its interesting these racist. Homophobic types are the ones saying Joe's not pc enough

Nobody is pc enough for the mob. They will always expect more. IF u are a feminist (or TERF is the latest buzz word), support womens rights, or wont sleep with a trans, you must be transphobic. If u like white people, you are racist. If you support the police, you are racist. If u support mens rights, you are anti women. If u support gays and lesbians, you are not accepting of the other hundred made up identities.
There are many, many more.

 

[Bostonian]

I don't think he should be censored and I think he is quite talented but he has had some alt right freaks on his show Specifically, Gavin McInnes, Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones, and Jordy Peterson who is just a grifter for people who have never read any critical theory and think "women are chaos" is a blinding insight. The fact he does no research, never critically engages with them and laughs along is a problem in those circumstances

It's not a problem though.

Anyone on any kind of social media putting their opinions out there is a grifter. BLM for instance has a great many grifters that get a far bigger platform than JR can provide to push their grift.


Yet they aren't held to anywhere near the standard he is.

 

[Chief]

It's not a problem though.

Anyone on any kind of social media putting their opinions out there is a grifter. BLM for instance has a great many grifters that get a far bigger platform than JR can provide to push their grift.


Yet they aren't held to anywhere near the standard he is.

This is like when Trump absorbed the term "fake news".

 

[EasternTiger]

The might of the right flexing its muscles. The big boys of the IDW are not going to put up with cancel culture nonsense.



Good little clip that. Lazy 2.3 million views.

 

[Bostonian]

This is like when Trump absorbed the term "fake news".

Nah, more like following that legendary grifter Al Sharpton's play book.

Anyone wanting to be a full time grifter should study his methods.

 

[BlueE]

That's funny.

I have pointed out his lies as unpicked by people with knowledge.

Here's a video that we've discussed earlier in the thread.

I won't break it down, we've done that. Read the thread or have a watch.

No, that's funny.

You are fully taken in (and up until now have allowed no discussion about what he says) by Dr Wilson PhD, a self-professed average scientist with no known publications, supposedly with help from other unknowns recruited to debunk Dr. Malone, whose expertise includes virology, immunology, molecular biology, pathology and pharmacology, in a personal hit piece that ignores the importance of Malone's discoveries, over 100 peer reviewed publications, domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, and vaccines: including for fundamental DNA and RNA/mRNA vaccine technologies and over 12,000 citations in published research, becasue he claims Malone has a personal grievance?

These and Malone's CV are available for review and can be found in the link below.

General 2 — Robert W Malone MD

The blatant misinformation and outright lies come from Wilson. It's a lie to say Malone is asking for credit for mRNA vaccines, when it’s the opposite both intellectually and financially.

Malone told Rogan "I think I may be the only one that has been involved deeply in the development of this tech that doesn't have a financial stake in it..."

His background in mRNA/DNA technology and his experience in developing vaccines to regulatory standards, makes him qualified to stand up and speak out about his concerns that information to make informed decisions is not being given, coercion that is taking away choice and his concerns with the safety of the vaccine, especially with low risk candidates like children.

While there are hit pieces like Wilson’s and others aimed at discrediting Malone and his ground-breaking discoveries, with one tactic being to promote others as the “true inventor of mRNA vaccine technology”.

However even in the Nature article Wilson quotes, they acknowledge Malone's landmark discoveries that were the stepping stones towards two of the most important and profitable vaccines in history: the mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines. They also detail the messy patent deals that saw Malone leave the research team and Merck buy the patent, but then was unable to develop the technology for ten years until the patent lapsed.

Nature article admits pre-Malone “few researchers were thinking about mRNA as a medical product — not least because there was not yet a way to manufacture the genetic material in a laboratory. Instead, they hoped to use it to interrogate basic molecular processes.” Or “a research tool for studying gene function and activity”.

Years later, Malone followed the Harvard team’s tactics to synthesize mRNA for his experiments. But he added a new kind of liposome, one that carried a positive charge, which enhanced the material’s ability to engage with the negatively charged backbone of mRNA.

Malone and his collaborators at the University of Wisconsin–Madison showed that the lipid–mRNA complexes could spur protein production in mice and Malone and his Vical coworkers in the company they set up also explored using mRNA for vaccines: their early patent filings describe injecting mRNA coding for HIV proteins into mice.

Malone's ground-breaking 1989 study introducing the world to mRNA transfection.

Malone, R. W., Felgner, P. L. & Verma, I. M. Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection. Proc. Natl Acad. Sci. USA 86, 6077–6081 (1989).

Other scientists then got involved and Kariko in her 2014 paper, "mRNA-based therapeutics – developing a new class of drugs." acknowledges Malone citing his work and in emails to him.

Unlike Malone, who does not have a financial stake in the mRNA vaccines, Katalin Karikó serves as Senior Vice President at BioNTech, which partnered with Pfizer to create the first COVID-19 vaccine.

Some also argue that Karikó should be acknowledged as much for her contributions to the mRNA research community at large as for her discoveries in the lab.

“Researchers still argue over whether Karikó and Weissman’s discovery is essential for successful mRNA vaccines. Moderna has always used modified mRNA

… . “There are multiple factors that may affect the safety and efficacy of an mRNA vaccine, chemical modification of mRNA is only one of them,” says Bo Ying, chief executive of Suzhou Abogen Biosciences, a Chinese company with an mRNA vaccine for COVID-19 now in late-stage clinical testing. (Known as ARCoV, the product uses unmodified mRNA.)

As for linchpin technologies, many experts highlight another innovation that was crucial for mRNA vaccines — one that has nothing to do with the mRNA. It is the lipid nanoparticles, or LNPs, that protect the mRNA and shuttle it into cells.

This technology comes from the laboratory of Pieter Cullis, a biochemist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada, and several companies that he founded or led.

The claims that hundreds of people contributed to the genetic vaccines is fantasy without proof is not addressing the “inventor” and only around five would have been seriously considered as contributors by the Nobel committee.

The tangled history of mRNA vaccines

The claims that hundreds of people contributed to the genetic vaccines is fantasy without proof is not addressing the “inventor” and only around five would have been seriously considered as contributors by the Nobel committee.

 

[BlueE]

Ebola. “Tip of the spear on bringing the Ebola vaccine forward ... I’m the one that got Merck involved” said Malone, but Wilson creepily claims Malone is cagey because Malone said he got Merck involved.

Wilson says he did his best to find details on google, but didn't even bother to look at Malone’s resume on his webpage and declined to contact or email him with any questions. Instead of making up claims with the only purpose of “debunking”, without even a quick look at description of Malone's involvement in the development and approval of the Ebola vaccine.

Dr. Malone has a history of assembling and managing expert teams that focus on solving complicated biodefense challenges to meet US Government requirements. He was instrumental in enabling the PHAC/rVSV ZEBOV (“Merck Ebola”) vaccine to move forward quickly towards BLA and (now recently granted) licensure.

Dr. Malone got the project on track in support of DoD/DTRA and NewLink Genetics, recruited organizations to team with USAMRIID/WRAIR to develop the immunoassays, put WHO and Norwegian government philanthropic leadership in touch with Pentagon leadership to expedite the initial WRAIR clinical and ring vaccination trials.

Resume at bottom right of page: General 2 — Robert W Malone MD

 

[Chief]

Malone told Rogan "I think I may be the only one that has been involved deeply in the development of this tech that doesn't have a financial stake in it..."

Just having a whinge.

 

[Gak Attack]

That was fantastic support for Joe, anybody that has anything at all to do with Joe personally can't speak highly enough of him, he's a great human being.

I would bet my left nut that those who are all over Joe calling him out don't know him personally and/or have watched very little of his content over the years.

Or are just jealous which seems to be a few.

 

[Chief]

Wilson says he did his best to find details on google, but didn't even bother to look at Malone’s resume

Why would he look at Malone's resume to confirm ... something Malone said?

That's not how it works.

What I'm going to do is send you an invoice for $500 and post it online. Then I will tell someone else you owe me $500.

Do you therefore owe me $500?

 

[BlueE]

In his own words, Malone says vaccines have “saved lives. Many lives.”

“But it is also increasingly clear that there are some risks associated with these vaccines,” Malone said. “Various governments have attempted to deny that this is the case. But they are wrong. Vaccination-associated coagulation is a risk. Cardiotoxicity is a risk. Those are proven and discussed in official USG communications, as well as communications from a variety of other governments.”

Malone isn’t a crazed conspiracy theorist: He’s a man who’s intimately familiar with the benefits and the risks of vaccines. He’s a proponent of informed consent. Perhaps before letting someone inject a vaccine into your body, you should be fully informed of the risks involved, he says. He isn’t an unreasonable man.

Nevertheless, in this age of faux outrage and fabricated storylines, society needs a fall guy, a boogie man, a sacrificial lamb. Malone fits the bill. He knows too much. It’s much easier to discredit a decorated physician, who challenges the overarching narrative, than it is to actually contact him or debate him.

Wilson is totally wrong when he says removing the control group of the Pfizer trial after only 6 months of testing, which they did by unbinding doesn't confound the future study results and destroy any valid conclusion. There is no longer a "random controlled trial" but Wilson state this is OK because there are still unvaccinated people in the world that can be used as a control. If that doesn't prove Wilson knows nothing about RCT's, then nothing will.

BMJ printed peer reviews explaining the problems of Pfizer’s data they’ve submitted why the unblinding of the trial after only 6 months of data has confounded the results.

Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine? - The BMJ

The FDA should demand adequate, controlled studies with long term follow up, and make data publicly available, before granting full approval to covid-19 vaccines, says Peter Doshi On 28 July [...]More...

Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine? - The BMJ

The FDA should demand adequate, controlled studies with long term follow up, and make data publicly available, before granting full approval to covid-19 vaccines, says Peter Doshi On 28 July.

Covid-19 vaccines: In the rush for regulatory approval, do we need more data?

After rollout under emergency authorisation, manufacturers of covid-19 vaccines now have their sights on regulatory approval. But what’s the rush, asks Peter Doshi , and is just six months of data from now unblinded trials acceptable? In April 2021, Pfizer and Moderna announced efficacy results...

https://ebm.bmj.com/content/ebmed/early/2021/08/08/bmjebm-2021-111735.full.pdf

 

[Chief]

Malone isn’t a crazed conspiracy theorist: He’s a man who’s intimately familiar with the benefits and the risks of vaccines. He’s a proponent of informed consent. Perhaps before letting someone inject a vaccine into your body, you should be fully informed of the risks involved, he says. He isn’t an unreasonable man.

He's been trying to get countries to shut down their vaccination programs.

He's a dick.

 

[M Malice]

I'm an hour or so into todays Rogan Podcast with Dave Smith, discussing the attempt to de platform Joe, MSM decline, USA's endless wars + Joe has come out in defence of Woopi Goldberg and pushed back against Dave having a go at Sanjay Gupta, saying he really likes Sanjay and that he is a highly intelligent man.

 

[BlueE]

Why would he look at Malone's resume to confirm ... something Malone said?

That's not how it works.

What I'm going to do is send you an invoice for $500 and post it online. Then I will tell someone else you owe me $500.

Do you therefore owe me $500?

It was particularly aimed at Wilson's comments about contributing to the Ebola vaccine on Rogan. Wilson posted a few seconds and said because he couldn't find anything about the connection about Malone and developing the Ebola vaccine he made made dispersions he didn't believe what Malone was saying.

Seems pretty dumb to not check Malone's resume or website especially when he thinks he can make snide judgments on his work, without even bothering to contact or email him with any questions.

 

[BlueE]

He's been trying to get countries to shut down their vaccination programs.

He's a dick.

Where?