Teague was very vocal about backing his coaches to deliver their message to their players in his first season, it could be that he hasn’t been assertive enough to pull up other coaches, as he didn’t walk into the club as the new leader, he was an equal with them just two seasons ago.
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News John Barker resigns - Post #447
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If this is true, than FML this club never changes does it, full of back stabbers and factions, like the time Barry Mitchell went behind Pagan's back and applied for his job before the board.
Cannot blame or be surprised if Cripps and or Harry leave if all this scuttlebutt is true.
Thought the days of us having a toxic club culture is over. Obviously not.
Starting to think Liddle's position as CEO is almost untenable at this point. Not just with the falling out with SOS, but he seems like a rogue Maverick playing his own rules.
Right now it feels like we are the laughing stock of the AFL again.
Apologies for the rant, but I just no faith in this club getting it'ssorted both on and off the field anytime soon.
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EJ you have raised several valid observation ... but what other clubs or supporters think about Carlton should not be a important concern to the club.
They should concentrating on what they can control, not what other's say. We all know regardless of what the club does, there is always significant
criticism of the CFC from other fans.
Can be difficult for some to take that next step and or within the timeframe of the expectations of his peers
Personally, I hope he continues to evolve in the role, if he is open to change
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Nice guy
But we need good coaches, to turn some of our nice boys into great players
But we need good coaches, to turn some of our nice boys into great players
Our whole team are nice guys. It's about time we recruit some ****ing mongrel.
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So many conspiracy theories invented by people here without even knowing a person and what they would be likely to do or not.
It's not 'probable' just because you decided to make it up.
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How many other clubs have a stoppages coach, or even 2 midfield coaches.
Our whole football department/coaching structure seems somewhat unconventional, and obviously it isnt working. Most clubs have a coach who's focus is strategy - perhaps part of our issue is that our strategy is segmented by division, and theres no holistic strategy being properly communicated to the group - this is partly Teague, but also partly Lloyd's structure of the team.
At the end of the day, this move seems right to align the group with industry norms - and having Barker when he wasn't selected for the top job probably shouldn't have run as long as it did.
Our whole football department/coaching structure seems somewhat unconventional, and obviously it isnt working. Most clubs have a coach who's focus is strategy - perhaps part of our issue is that our strategy is segmented by division, and theres no holistic strategy being properly communicated to the group - this is partly Teague, but also partly Lloyd's structure of the team.
At the end of the day, this move seems right to align the group with industry norms - and having Barker when he wasn't selected for the top job probably shouldn't have run as long as it did.
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Does Barker get replaced for the remainder of the season?. Numbers have already been reduced due to Covid.
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We might see Power get slotted into the midfield role and Stanton dropped back to being a development coach. We don't need two midfield coaches and that could have been the cause of the mixed messages that the players were getting.
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Probably because that's how Teague got the nod, probably because he himself was caretaker before Bolton was appointed, probably, because he's the obvious/most experienced choice should Teague be relieved of his coaching duties.
I love how people come to forums and take snippets of a post to make themselves feel good, whilst avoiding my acclamations of his service to the club.
My probability is illustrated. Use your "conspiracy theory" tropes wisely
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You said that he was Probably hoping for Teague to be sacked....... that I* consider a theory when you have no clue that the guy would ever think like that.
That's very different to saying he'd be prepared to step in if Teague was sacked. Hoping that he's sacked is something else.
6? We’re going to win two more games!? Now that’s positivity!
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who Knows, mate.
It's a forum, not an AGM. It's plausible given the lack of opportunities coming his way.
He is the most qualified NON-afl coach in the league, in terms of accredited level training (level 4-5 I think)
Barker did himself a disservice staying at Carlton for so long without success, perhaps he saw it as a succession type arrangement?
who knows, but assistants that move, do so for accumulating experience and developing a reputation for improving/adding value
Its why only assistants under premiership coaches are at the front of the Q for rookie coaching appointment or senior assistants (ie Bolton)
In the end, it seems like it was Carlton or bust for him, evidenced by his desire to leave the footy industry.
For John, I would have liked him to coach a SANFL or WAFL club, get some success get reinvigorated and then reintroduced. He's still young enough.
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He should have moved on when he missed out on the job when Bolton was appointed. Would have been better for his future prospects IMO. Yep, he'd be better off coaching his own team at a state level.
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All the best, Johnny Barker. Nuff said.
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Duties will get re-assigned, but it's unclear how that will look and what the flow-on effect will be for (likely) the development coaches.
Given all the coaches being made redundant in the league over the last 18 months, it's possible we might have someone on speed dial to fill in gaps.
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The point I make and I'm sure others as well, is it's all based on the probability of snippets we know. It's said his relationship with some players is close, perhaps too close. Perhaps Teague has relationships with other players, if so, factions develop on selections, and hard calls based on any meritocracy goes out the window.
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do you currently have hair?
Qualifications, so overrated when it comes to the reality of the job.
Bottom line he has worked across multiple coaches and all have failed with him as a Senior Assistant.
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