Rumour Jon Patton

[Wosh]

Just a reminder not to cross the line, BF does have rules we all abide by regarding mental health issues and unacceptable comments and jokes. Feel free to discuss any topic reasonably but please think before you post.
And please stick to the topic only.
Thanks.

 

[javaguice]

And setting your ejaculation reference aside he might now receive this assistance. As a number draft pick who knows what he had been "sold" as a pubescent male.

I won't pretend to be dignified....

What assistance does he need anyway?

 

[lysp]

Has an Only Fans. Says it all.

What's your point?

Just because someone is a sex-worker doesn't mean you're automatically allowed to send them non-consensual dick-pics.

"Oh, she's a stripper/escort, so that give me permission to make unwanted advances."

It's like someone was or is a boxer, martial artist and that gives me permission to punch them.

She could send naked pictures to literally every single person on earth except him, and that still doesn't give him permission do send something to her without consent.

 

[tombomb]

A lot of people on here have never made a mistake in their lives it would appear. Mostly jealous and taking the opportunity to kick a man while down. He who has not sinned may cast the first stone

Everyone has done something dumb or something they regret at some stage.

But most people haven't texted multiple strangers stuff about their c**k, amongst other gross things.

There is an epidemic of male pigs out there who think they can do and say whatever they want and just laugh it off as a bit of a joke.

 

[Slartibartfast]

No... regardless of if he has mental health issues, that has f/a to do with sending dicpics.

I'm diagnosed with major depression and don't spontaneously send dicpics because of it.

for someone who suffers you no little of mental illness.
Suggest you do some reading , more than one mental illness out there and also many varying degrees of severity.
This guy is not the first to behave like this .
Reckon it is terrible when people say he should not be suffering .

honestly, it is cowardly of you to judge Paton based on your narrow experience. It is evident that he is suffering, lost his job, self esteem, facing his deviances in the public forum. Not surprised if he has tried to self harm.

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

There are potentially many good things that can come from this:

- First and foremost; definitive action from authorities about unsolicited pictures such as this being deemed an offence. It may not be a laughing matter to all who received one as nobody knows whether they have other issues from past relationships/childhood etc which may be triggered by this kind of thing. Between fully consenting adults who make it clear both are consenting - fine. For those who are doing so without consent and after the receiver has made it clear they don't want it - a chargeable offence.

- If it does assist in bringing mental health issues into the public arena even more (not just within the AFL) then some positive can come from it. While mental health has made enormous strides forward in the last 10-15 years in terms of understanding in the community - there is still a long way to go. Not every instance of mental health is being made up to have a Get Out Of Jail Free card from someone's actions. There are many who suffer silently and feel terrible stigma about mental health brought upon by a huge range of issues. Maybe this can be another tiny step forward with that.

- If it can assist Jonathon Patton

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in understanding the consequences of his actions; facing up to them publicly in front of family/friends/his teammates and club/the public and to own the issue - then he can still have a chance to move forward with his football. Certainly he will have massive challenges with that. Idiots over the fence. Smart arse journalists with snappy headlines with "Patton" as a lazy pun. Opposition players. People in the street. If he can understand all of that and work through it in his own time and face up to it - then all is not lost and he doesn't have to be a punchline but rather an example of someone owning an issue and working through to the other side.

Its just simply too glib and easy to resort to the lazy assumptions about his character when 99.5% of us have little real idea of what kind of person he genuinely is. Much of that is based on a number of very poor decisions. Everyone on this site has made a decision at some point they wish they could take back. Most of us didn't do it effectively in front of the nation. What he has done is really poor judgment and really poor decision making. It doesn't mean he should be hung drawn and quartered for it for the rest of his life. If he can do the above and make not only plenty of apologies but even look at working as an ambassador for cyber-safety or the like - then good can arise from this.

 

[justlookingaround]

Wonder if he’s ever had a girlfriend

 

[justlookingaround]

Nah the guy clearly has emotional issues, the vision of him flipping his shit at medicos demonstrates that - probably emotionally stuck at the age when everyone around him realised he’d be a pro athlete.

 

[StingBitten]

Where does one find the unfiltered messages outside of Bigfooty and news sites?

 

[Rob R]

Just crap that this mental illness is being addressed just days after being outed for being a creep. Cop it on the chin and admit you f’ed up..

Does anyone actually accept responsibility these days, it seems just about every crim or busted celebrity etc goes the whole mental health victim approach to avoid punishment.

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[greatwhiteshark]

Ah the mental health card. Why am I not surprised.

It really has become the go to card, they know that most of the public will eat it up.

 

[javaguice]

You dont understand that he has a mental health issue.

if you dont want to read my posts you have choices.

Yeah but I keep getting an annoying sound from my phone when you quote me and its starting to remind me of you.

 

[Xtreme]

Imo this shouldn’t result in losing his career. I mean yea it’s not normal behavior and I know he’s made a number of people feel uncomfortable etc and he needs to pull his head in, maybe find some counselling and obviously sincerely apologise to women he has harassed/offended but he hasn’t r*ped anyone , hasn’t beaten anyone. The public humiliation and shame is more than enough

He is playing professional sport and should be conducting himself in a professional manner.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I think it’s high time that the draft camp started testing these kids for mental health issues. Don’t recruit them if they have issues.

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

Do they?

Don't all criminals get released into the community at some point? How many re-offend?

I don't know the answers by the way. It's not a topic I know much about, or care much about. Just trying to understand your point.




On face value there is.

But there's also a difference between just a 'dick pic' - and indencent exposure, and sexual harassment. There's even a big difference between sending your missus a dick pic, versus sending one randomly to a stranger who didn't want it.

And there's also a difference between African kids doing regrettable stuff that they will be ashamed of when they're adults - and home invasions and car jackings!



Is it moral outrage? Or it actually just people expressing their views on public forums (which are literally designed for people express their views on)? There is a difference between supposed moral outrage, and people actually disagreeing with or not liking something. It's not always a moral thing.

The Herald-Sun's entire business model is about stirring up emotive responses from their readers, and demanding that people be outraged. I don't know why you think it's being led by anyone other than the media.

They've successfully outraged you, by telling you how outraged everyone else is. In reality, I'd bet that you're more outraged about the outrage, than those that are outraged actually are.


The amount of times I read headlines that talk about people being outraged about something, only to read the article and find that in fact very few, if any, people are actually outraged about it is hilarious.

Patton admitted to hospital now, hope you feel good you self righteous prick.

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

I love the idea that this idiot gets 1 step away from sealing the deal, but ruins everything by asking if they want to be paid. What a moron

Which makes her a willing participant but hey its all the big fella's fault, they are on those sites looking for 'love'.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Yeah but I keep getting an annoying sound from my phone when you quote me and its starting to remind me of you.

Thinking of you

 

[The Zork]

I dislike the mental health safety shield.

Numerous female friends of mine have noticed the change in approach of guys through dating apps and the like.
Began as in-depth sort of incoming chats for the most part when they first became popular.

Then as months/years passed the chats would just be minimum and replaced with more straight to the point type propositions. Almost like a mentality of if it worked with her/him then it might work for the next person.

Can sense a bit of this here with Patton but at the extreme level.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

It’s not really a surprise. A football club would be set up with direct access to mental health care or at least would educate on it and preach its importance. Why wouldn’t a player who lives in a football bubble not consider getting assistance when they are feeling anxious or stressed out. Can understand why people roll their eyes at this being the route people go when backed into a corner but that kind of care is a part of football education.

This flare up is his own doing but no doubt he is a candidate for a breakdown under these outside pressures which he seemed to think he was untouchable to.

 

[BomberARMY]

Which makes her a willing participant but hey its all the big fella's fault, they are on those sites looking for 'love'.

Whether people are on those sites 'looking for love' or not is besides the point. Sexual talk, txts, acts have to be reciprocated, and even if they are, women or men have the right to refuse unsolicited advances in whatever form if they choose or decide things are 'moving too quickly' or getting out of hand.

 

[GroggSquad]

Ah the mental health card. Why am I not surprised.

I dunno mate, like I’d be pretty f*cking depressed if this happened to me on such a public level...

Alot of heroes on their high horse in here, but his messages just read like an uneducated naive lad who never learnt how to chat to girls properly. It’s actually a bit sad.

I think the whole thing has been blown up too much now - you’d think it was a rape case the way some are carrying on. He is certainly learning his lesson the hard way either way.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

I have no issue with him citing "mental health issues" because to do what he did you would indeed have to have "mental health issues"

 

[mailman4]

As far as I can tell the 'mental health' statement isn't being used as an excuse or a justification. I would imagine he's realised his career is over and he is in indescribable shame (imagine family and friends knowing you're a disgusting sex pest). Maybe hospital is the safest place for him right now

Doesn't excuse him of his actions and he should still suffer the consequences

 

[Farang83150]

I just hope that the young lad finds what he is looking for.

Google?

 

[BC9_]

I don’t know this Coonan girl from a bar of soap, but given my reading of the screenshots, someone tell me on what basis did she decide to continue to speak to him after he asked her to have sex with him during a covid lockdown AND that he offered to pay her for sex?

She was already being disrespected by him at that point, and, by that fact, she herself should put her hand up about that aspect and tell younger women hey... as soon as a man disrespects you, drop them.

Overall, Patton’s misconduct seems obvious and undeniable but seriously, this woman needs to respect herself more, that’s at least the message I would tell to my own daughter (if I had one) out of all of this. There’s lessons to be learnt on both ends. I would also tell my son (if I had one) “always respect women, even when you think they are not respecting themselves.”

 

[BC9_]

Lol..."seems"

There’s a pending investigation which is not yet complete, hence the concessional use of language, let it run its course, patience, pitchforks at the ready...