Josh Simpson

[yakka man]

"Footy can be everything, but it's not everything … and you should never forget where you come from. As long as they've come out of footy with something, made friends, enjoyed what they've done and done the best they can."

Isn't this the most important quote? Isn't this why plenty of guys can't be bothered with the AFL? I don't get it. Who are a bunch of arseholes on a forum to denigrate Simpson's or anyone's character if these are the things they feel – Simpson obviously doesn't forget where he's come from and seemingly won't stop thinking about it. It's not his fault – it's not even a fault. If the typical AFL hard-arse lifestyle isn't his to be had then so be it. I don't know if he'll ever come back to Freo or not, I'm sure the club'll patronise his issues and bridge the two distinctly different worlds, but to berate the guy as lazy or throwing something away... It always seemed weird to me.

I agree. But just to play Devil's advocate; before they put their name in the draft they should think about what is expected of them if they're drafted, because no one forces them to be on an AFL list. And of coarse there should be more AFL aid in determining if it's the right option for them. And then helping them adjust if they're drafted.

The AFL really is behind in this issue.

 

[Wigarus]

I reckon the club putting him in this program is the best chance we / he would have at getting him another year on the list.

 

[Rob]

I agree. But just to play Devil's advocate; before they put their name in the draft they should think about what is expected of them if they're drafted, because no one forces them to be on an AFL list. And of coarse there should be more AFL aid in determining if it's the right option for them. And then helping them adjust if they're drafted.

The AFL really is behind in this issue.

Once a player is drafted it becomes a club issue, not an AFL one.

But in any case, i'm not really sure what is told to prospective players about life in the AFL. I can't imagine that there wouldn't be an awful lot of information thrown at players - but in the end it's up to the player to take notice. I can't see a kid who's spent the last 10 years dreaming of playing in the AFL getting told how hard it's going to be and suddenly deciding it's not for him.

 

[Apenesslike]

"Footy can be everything, but it's not everything … and you should never forget where you come from. As long as they've come out of footy with something, made friends, enjoyed what they've done and done the best they can."

Isn't this the most important quote? Isn't this why plenty of guys can't be bothered with the AFL? I don't get it. Who are a bunch of arseholes on a forum to denigrate Simpson's or anyone's character if these are the things they feel – Simpson obviously doesn't forget where he's come from and seemingly won't stop thinking about it. It's not his fault – it's not even a fault. If the typical AFL hard-arse lifestyle isn't his to be had then so be it. I don't know if he'll ever come back to Freo or not, I'm sure the club'll patronise his issues and bridge the two distinctly different worlds, but to berate the guy as lazy or throwing something away... It always seemed weird to me.

So does that mean this is not a HTFU moment. Nice post SA.

 

[Apenesslike]

I agree. But just to play Devil's advocate; before they put their name in the draft they should think about what is expected of them if they're drafted, because no one forces them to be on an AFL list. And of coarse there should be more AFL aid in determining if it's the right option for them. And then helping them adjust if they're drafted.

The AFL really is behind in this issue.

Maybe so, there are a lot of players delisted every season the signed on the same dotted line thinking they knew what they were getting into and fell short of the requirements. Difference is the these boys are potentially better then everyone else on the list if they can make the transition. The gamble can pay massive rewards.

 

[couldhavebeen]

sliced
not everyone at a young age steps up to the

Fantastic reply.

Terrific response.

Maybe you should be pointing the finger at your white idols in Canberra, and various other parliaments around the country who sit on their hands, hand ball it to yet another committee, or launch a racist tirade against all people the name of an intervention?

But no, you sit here and take pot shots at people who have devoted decades of their lives trying to do the very thing you accuse us of not doing.

You're an idiot Danny and you always have been.



English please couldhavebeen . I have no idea what that means.



Indeed.

I was using my smart phone and it wouldn't let me complete the sentence so here goes .
Not everyone at a young age steps up to the plate when it comes to doing the right thing by themselves or their kids so cut the guy some slack and don't be such a prick when someone posts how they not only did the right thing by the child but their partner as well . He deserves a pat on the back not a kick in the guts .
The point he was making was a very simple one and he is hoping that Josh does the same for his kids as he did .

I like you have witnessed young aboriginal people going into a number of relationships that result in children and then they walkaway from them .
This doesn't only happen to just aboriginal relationships but in the wider community as well and he is only expressing the wish that Josh follows in his footsteps as we all do .

 

[couldhavebeen]

Chris Lewis was quoted in the West saying that young aboriginal players that are looking for a career in the AFL should be told the hard truth about what it takes to make it in the AFL and have them aware of how hard it is to make a go of it .
He stated that he was very fortunate to be in a very strong team that supported him but regrets that he could have been better if he had worked harder .
Josh needs to understand what he has been offered and what it will take achieve his potential as a footballer .
He will need to also understand that life is not a bed of roses and he will need courage , willpower , drive and support from family to realize his dreams not only on the football field but as man ,father and husband .

 

[TheMcManusNose]

I agree. But just to play Devil's advocate; before they put their name in the draft they should think about what is expected of them if they're drafted, because no one forces them to be on an AFL list. And of coarse there should be more AFL aid in determining if it's the right option for them. And then helping them adjust if they're drafted.

The AFL really is behind in this issue.

Yes, a fair call. The article by Chris Lewis implies this is an area that should be looked at. It's the same for everyone that age - how many kids have dropped out of their uni degrees or apprenticeships because they don't want to put in the effort? That kind of decision is not something that should be criticised without informed knowledge of the situation in question. Everyone has their own motivations and context - it's not necessarily a matter of some inherent failing in their character.

 

[slicedndiced]

sliced
not everyone at a young age steps up to the


I was using my smart phone and it wouldn't let me complete the sentence so here goes .
Not everyone at a young age steps up to the plate when it comes to doing the right thing by themselves or their kids so cut the guy some slack and don't be such a prick when someone posts how they not only did the right thing by the child but their partner as well . He deserves a pat on the back not a kick in the guts .
The point he was making was a very simple one and he is hoping that Josh does the same for his kids as he did .

I like you have witnessed young aboriginal people going into a number of relationships that result in children and then they walkaway from them .
This doesn't only happen to just aboriginal relationships but in the wider community as well and he is only expressing the wish that Josh follows in his footsteps as we all do .

Coulda....tell me how much you know about that poster before spouting your trap about what you THINK he is trying to say.

Plenty of people have discussed issues like this prior to your arrival, and things were a little less stringent than they are now and peoples true feelings were on display in all there ugliness. Including that guys.

So yeah, I don't forget because it is important to me and your assumption is wrong.

 

[Apenesslike]

Coulda....tell me how much you know about that poster before spouting your trap about what you THINK he is trying to say.

Plenty of people have discussed issues like this prior to your arrival, and things were a little less stringent than they are now and peoples true feelings were on display in all there ugliness. Including that guys.

So yeah, I don't forget because it is important to me and your assumption is wrong.

One thing is apparent though, coulda does not side with the HTFU argument. As soon as anyone put money above family or a mans culture, that is a decision that carries long term consequences.

 

[slicedndiced]

One thing is apparent though, coulda does not side with the HTFU argument. As soon as anyone put money above family or a mans culture, that is a decision that carries long term consequences.

Oh no, Coulda is all good on this imo, he just got that a little wrong.

 

[couldhavebeen]

Oh no, Coulda is all good on this imo, he just got that a little wrong.

Sliced some times people like to have a conversation without being lectured too or told that their point of view because its not the same as yours is wrong .

The guy used his own life story ,( on face value ) to relate to everyone that life doesn't always go to plan .
Its how you deal with problems and bumps in the road that defines who you are and what kind of person you can become .

I understand what you are saying and I hear the frustration in your posts .

I respect your right to have an opinion and voice it , so how about you let others post their thoughts and contribute to the conversation without you assuming that their point of view is not worthy .

Almost everyone wants Josh to succeed as a footballer and come back and play for Fremantle because of what we have seen even so briefly .

We ALL would love it if he becomes a great Dad ,mentor to his kids , terrific husband /partner and a leader in his tribe .
You have knowledge of both culture and history which I and a lot of others envy and we would like to know more .
In fact many of the posters have learnt more about Aborigines and their culture over the last few months than they would ever have imagined possible so thankyou and the other posters for opening our eyes but please don't make the mistake of thinking that only yours and a very few have the knowledge that matters .

 

[slicedndiced]

Sliced some times people like to have a conversation without being lectured too or told that their point of view because its not the same as yours is wrong .

The guy used his own life story ,( on face value ) to relate to everyone that life doesn't always go to plan .
Its how you deal with problems and bumps in the road that defines who you are and what kind of person you can become .

I understand what you are saying and I hear the frustration in your posts .

I respect your right to have an opinion and voice it , so how about you let others post their thoughts and contribute to the conversation without you assuming that their point of view is not worthy .

Almost everyone wants Josh to succeed as a footballer and come back and play for Fremantle because of what we have seen even so briefly .

We ALL would love it if he becomes a great Dad ,mentor to his kids , terrific husband /partner and a leader in his tribe .
You have knowledge of both culture and history which I and a lot of others envy and we would like to know more .
In fact many of the posters have learnt more about Aborigines and their culture over the last few months than they would ever have imagined possible so thankyou and the other posters for opening our eyes but please don't make the mistake of thinking that only yours and a very few have the knowledge that matters .

FFS coulda, you just don't read, do you.

Go back and see what I said prior to the post you quoted.

 

[couldhavebeen]

Sliced
You are a passionate man and the subject is close to your heart because of what you have seen and had to live through .

This I understand , I have aboriginal friends and am friends with people who are working with them trying to improve their lives in remote settlements .
This is a subject close to my heart .
Racism is ugly and I hate it and the people that use it to justify their way of treating people badly .

My wife is Indian and we have been on the wrong end of peoples prejudices ,its not a nice thing to experience but you can't let it and them prevent you from enjoying life.

 

[slicedndiced]

WTF are you on about?

 

[Moo]

"Footy can be everything, but it's not everything … and you should never forget where you come from. As long as they've come out of footy with something, made friends, enjoyed what they've done and done the best they can."

Isn't this the most important quote? Isn't this why plenty of guys can't be bothered with the AFL? I don't get it. Who are a bunch of arseholes on a forum to denigrate Simpson's or anyone's character if these are the things they feel – Simpson obviously doesn't forget where he's come from and seemingly won't stop thinking about it. It's not his fault – it's not even a fault. If the typical AFL hard-arse lifestyle isn't his to be had then so be it. I don't know if he'll ever come back to Freo or not, I'm sure the club'll patronise his issues and bridge the two distinctly different worlds, but to berate the guy as lazy or throwing something away... It always seemed weird to me.

I would of liked this post - however you had a crack at lanyards in the other thread and I'm still too upset to forgive.

 

[Wigarus]

I would of liked this post - however you had a crack at lanyards in the other thread and I'm still too upset to forgive.

*would'f

 

[scon]

You're the most recent and stylish of the bandwagoners who like neither the club nor the game but love a cool lanyard-a Mooster.

 

[Moo]

*would'f

There, they're, their ......don't get anal on me.

 

[pavsbootlace]

...snip...

but to berate the guy as lazy or throwing something away... It always seemed weird to me.

I can only assume it comes from jealousy. Some keyboard warriors on here seem to get very offended by a talented young kid throwing away such a rare opportunity. The very opportunity that said keyboard warrior was never good enough to earn himself. Good old fashioned jealousy... with a hint of racism in this case... and a bit of ignorance.

 

[scon]

Combined with the primordial offshoot to insecurity where putting someone else down,somehow makes you taller;but yeah I think you got the top three and the order and proportion would vary campaigner to campaigner.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I can only assume it comes from jealousy. Some keyboard warriors on here seem to get very offended by a talented young kid throwing away such a rare opportunity. The very opportunity that said keyboard warrior was never good enough to earn himself. Good old fashioned jealousy... with a hint of racism in this case... and a bit of ignorance.

That's what I think it is – and I don't know if it's jealousy or envy, I mean I think we all look at young guys on an AFL list and think how good that'd be. The supreme irony is that these AFL-level kids are more open and rounded than the people who want to be them: these kids probably realise there's more to life. I could imagine getting to a club and being excited and then two years later being chuffed with the experience, but questioning "is this it?" and then yearning for the life of a normal 20-something: where you can sink piss on any Saturday as opposed to only a few, where you can travel for four months in winter and not five weeks in the summer... I don't get how people can berate a human beings decisions.

I think it's actually good to see people place other things about AFL. It shows they're probably interesting, multi-dimensional people. It's why I always liked Viv Michie. He seemed the kind of guy who had more going on than just AFL.

 

[smokingjacket]

Diagnosed with depression is a different kettle of fish methinks.

Methinks this might be because you understand depression better, because it can happen to anyone. Cultural dislocation on the other hand doesn't tend to affect white people all that much. The idea that an Anglo person would have an identity crisis from moving to a new place/country is considered quite absurd.

 

[BeinPurplenGreen]

So does that mean this is not a HTFU moment. Nice post SA.

Pencil neck...






Jokes....

BTW, Silent Alarm did you mean "patronise" in your earlier post, or was it some other word you meant to use?? 'Cause if nothing else I'd sure hope Freo doesn't patronise young Joshy...

 

[22 others]

I can only assume it comes from jealousy. Some keyboard warriors on here seem to get very offended by a talented young kid throwing away such a rare opportunity. The very opportunity that said keyboard warrior was never good enough to earn himself. Good old fashioned jealousy... with a hint of racism in this case... and a bit of ignorance.

I think the racism calls are out of line. The only problem I have with players throwing away an opportunity is when they play for the FFC and it costs time and money to put these kids in who thought that AFL footy was going to be a walk in the park. If a player walks away when we could have picked up another player I'm certainly not happy.