Judd - Is he a poor captain?

[doggies]

Under his reign, both Cousins and Fevola have been forced out of their respective clubs, for numerous stuff-ups.

Cousins - drugs and alcohol (outside the Crown), runner from car that got pulled over, etc.

Fevola - alcohol abuse, a rat on TFS constantly, Lara Bingle bungle, immature, groping women, and now the latest sexual claims.


Does Judd have discipline over his troops? Does he set down hard enough team rules? Should he take some of the blame? Is he a poor captain? -
he is a poor skipper in my opinion

 

[Burzum]

How can Judd control things like this that were around prior to his arrival?

 

[jonoman89]

How can Judd control things like this that were around prior to his arrival?

This. If Fev was 20, different story.

 

[lards]

Judd shouldn't have to babysit grown men.

I think he is a great player and a good captain.

 

[QuietB]

Judd only became captain after the cousins fiasco. Can't blame him for that. I think doubts about his leadership are fair enough though

 

[Dusky]

Should never have been captain of West Coast. Cousins was still our true captain up until he had to move on.

 

[Pessimistic]

Put it this way, if it was Jonno Brown as his captain it wouldnt be an issue (and it wont be)

 

[jonesy86]

Poor captain? or shrewd mercenary?

Let WCE culture get out of hand... request a trade to VISY for huge $$$

Let Fev get sh*tfaced, demand he is traded... frees up even more $$$ for himself

 

[PottSie2]

Put it this way, if it was Jonno Brown as his captain it wouldnt be an issue (and it wont be)

This. A true captain demands and commands respect on the field and off. Judd is a nice bloke, maybe too nice to be a true leader.

 

[watermelonslice]

I'd say he's been an unlucky captain. Both Cousins and Fev are not only older than Judd, and their problems existed before Judd even began his captaincy at either club.

 

[Hubb]

Not a good captain, he's too soft

 

[Spluff]

Judd was never really Cousins' captain, though the Fev issue could raise a few eyebrows.

 

[Sellz]

This topic is a joke......

 

[Crazy Joe Fevola]

Under his reign, both Cousins and Fevola have been forced out of their respective clubs, for numerous stuff-ups.

Cousins - drugs and alcohol (outside the Crown), runner from car that got pulled over, etc.

Fevola - alcohol abuse, a rat on TFS constantly, Lara Bingle bungle, immature, groping women, and now the latest sexual claims.


Does Judd have discipline over his troops? Does he set down hard enough team rules? Should he take some of the blame? Is he a poor captain? -
he is a poor skipper in my opinion

Tell me tis as Captain of an AFL club how can Chris Judd be responsible for Fevolas maturity levels ?? How can Jubb be blamed for Fevola committng adultery with Lara Bingle ?? Does that mean Ricky Ponting and Steve Waugh were bad captains becasue S Warne was cheating on his missus ??

Pull your head in mate - don't use Fevola being a not very bright immature knob off the filed (brilliant player in the field) and cousins being a drug addict as a way to try and critice the leadership merits of Chris Judd. To say either Cousins or Fevola long list of misdenemaours have anything to do with Chris Judd is drawing a very long bow to say the least. So Cuz gets addicted to coke and ice and that is Judds fault becasue as captain of the eagles he should have some how prevented this - similary Fevola coems across as a twit on the footy show every week, cheats on his missus and can't handle his grog so that is Judds fault as well.. Please mate give it a rest........... He is was their captain - not their fairy god mother !!!!

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Was Voss a poor captain because he couldn't control Aker ???

Joke of a thread.!

 

[GoTheSwannies]

^^ true...i don't believe that cousins/fevs behaviour is judd's responsibility...but the fact that judd let fev hang himself on brownlow night shows how poor a captain he is....he really should've stepped in but let fev make a fool of himself...poor form

 

[Harry Madden]

Dig the heels in, Geeks. Do you have any understanding re: human management and a Capains role...
Blame:
Kirk for Hall.
Voss for Aker.
Lloyd for Lovett.
Burns for Didak/Shaw.

Ridiculous, Incredulous...you sir are truly a geek stinkfist!

 

[Axcellence]

Oh... I so wait for next year's brownlow... when Fev tries his "Steven Seagal" or "Pressure Point" routine on Jonathan Brown... It would be interesting to see what Brown's likely to do.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

I pretty much agree with all the points made in this thread that argue against Judd being a poor captain. But also, all the rumours about Fev's behaviour seem to indicate that Judd was trying to pull him into line, but Fev was too tanked to care ...

 

[Omegaman]

Judd shouldn't have to babysit grown men.
.

That replaces the 3 paragraphs I was going to write.

Either that, or maybe Judd is actually a cleansing fire, ridding clubs of their cultural cancers

 

[Bosun]

Under his reign, both Cousins and Fevola have been forced out of their respective clubs, for numerous stuff-ups.

Cousins - drugs and alcohol (outside the Crown), runner from car that got pulled over, etc.

Fevola - alcohol abuse, a rat on TFS constantly, Lara Bingle bungle, immature, groping women, and now the latest sexual claims.


Does Judd have discipline over his troops? Does he set down hard enough team rules? Should he take some of the blame? Is he a poor captain? -
he is a poor skipper in my opinion

Yeah thats it, dont blame the individual for their choices, its always someone else who has to take responsibility.

Nice attitude

 

[Hubb]

Some of the blame would obviously have to lie on Judd

 

[THE_GUN]

im going to miss fev being at carlton............he was so much fun for the supporters of other teams on bigfooty.

know we only have ohailphin & cloke to laugh at.

 

[jonesy86]

Oh... I so wait for next year's brownlow... when Fev tries his "Steven Seagal" or "Pressure Point" routine on Jonathan Brown... It would be interesting to see what Brown's likely to do.

Why would he do that?

Jonno Brown isn't a dirty eye-gouger.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Oh... I so wait for next year's brownlow... when Fev tries his "Steven Seagal" or "Pressure Point" routine on Jonathan Brown... It would be interesting to see what Brown's likely to do.

I wonder if Fev will even get an invite next year...