It's not 2004-2006 anymore, I don't think he's clearly number 1 now. The old Judd would have torn Richmond a new one last night. He's still so ridiculously talented and elite that it's taken a bad groin injury to bring him back the pack though.
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Judd is number 1, no doubt about it.
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yes out side midfielder...doesnt win his own ball...
sure
last year he averaged the most hardball gets and contested possesions in the league
if thats not inside i dont know wat it
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I think it is quite clear he isn't number 1 right now - but it is hard to run without a groin.
He showed his signs last night that he was back to his best with a few shimmies etc- but he doesn't have seasoned bodies like Embley and Stenglein to block for him anymore.
His best is the best i have seen as a midfielder - but he's not back there yet
I thought waite would be close to BOG until he faded. I thought Wiggins was the standout last night.
He is back in the discussion, no doubt about it, after 2 years coming back from injury.
But you don't get the mantle of the #1 player in the competition from 1 great game against mediocre opposition. You get it from dominating week in, week out, no matter who you play against.
Right now, Buddy and Ablett have recent runs on the board. But Judd (and Murphy) have been the standout performers of 2009 so far, so I guess its up to them to respond...
But you don't get the mantle of the #1 player in the competition from 1 great game against mediocre opposition. You get it from dominating week in, week out, no matter who you play against.
Right now, Buddy and Ablett have recent runs on the board. But Judd (and Murphy) have been the standout performers of 2009 so far, so I guess its up to them to respond...
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I don't think he'll ever be back to that best. Like many, I suspect these groin injuries are chronic, and will never be fully gotten over. Won't stop the media members with a Judd-fetish from talking him up though.
When has a player ever had their career ended at 26 by a groin injury?
Even players who have knee reconstructions come back to something approaching their best at that age. Write off Judd at your peril, particularly considering his performance last night...
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Ended? No, restricted and curtailed.
Last year Judd stood out in a pretty poor side. I rank him up there but nowhere near Ablett who performs week after week in a very talented side yet still stands out and Franklin and Hodge. For those saying Judd was BOG last night - think again. 23 possessions is not setting the world on fire. He was quite well held in the first half so how you BOG from that effort i will never know. Blues fans talking it up again I think.
i made a thread on brownlow allocation votes for last night
not one carlton supporter gave judd the 3
he was 2nd or 3rd or maybe even 4th best
not many carlton supporters are saying he was bog
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Yeah, even Richard Tambling would have been able to run rings around Richmond last night if he'd been playing for Carlton.
Wait a minute..
Yep, of all the regular season games played this year, these two are right up there in terms of best performances.
Hang in there mate - wanted to win but not really that way. Hope you guys can re-group and I look forward to a rekindled Richmond-Carlton rivalry!
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what was that about laughably poor? you sir have no idea.....
I'd kill to have that bloke in a Collingwood jumper. He had more clearances himself last night than what our whole midfield will have on saturday against the crows. Judd is an absolute gun, off the back of this pre-season without injury, he will star. Only Ablett matches him.....
What makes players like him great is self confidence. Left foot goal from the boundary anyone? He is top 5 for sure, as is ablett, the rest can fight the other placings out through the year.
Who cares who is number 1. everyone will have their own opinion. Juddy is a champion and I love watching him, but I also love watching Ablett, Buddy, Joel Selwood and plenty of others and don't care who is better than who just enjoy seeing them out there.
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i thought his game against geelong last year was his 4th best for the year. 28 disposals, 11 contested possessions, 6 clearances and a goal.
while his stats against hawthorn were: 31 disposals, 6 tackles, 4 clearances, 1 goal. bearing in mind, we were smashed in both games.
imagine how he'd go if he actually did play well against hawthorn and geelong...
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The OP is a clear example of someone who gets a premature ejaculation when judd shows a bit of form, consequently leading to his massive overratedness.
Context please.
Once judd starts performing like this week in week out, and more importantly against the bigger and better teams with a harder tag, then I'll give him some credit for returning to somewhere near his peak from years ago.
Until then, **** no is he top 3, let alone top 3 midfielders.
For what it's worth, I do believe this is the year Judd can get back to his best, and Judd is not an outside midfielder, he's both an inside and outside gun (like ablett).
Context please.
Once judd starts performing like this week in week out, and more importantly against the bigger and better teams with a harder tag, then I'll give him some credit for returning to somewhere near his peak from years ago.
Until then, **** no is he top 3, let alone top 3 midfielders.
For what it's worth, I do believe this is the year Judd can get back to his best, and Judd is not an outside midfielder, he's both an inside and outside gun (like ablett).
Did people seriously not watch the match before they make these comments? Judd had a hard tag last night, he was just able to beat it due to his natural brilliance as a footy player. That's what makes players like Judd and Ablett the best.
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Judd last year was amazing. His hardball and contested stats were first class. Despite being half fit for most of the year he was a freak. Duly rewarded with AA captaincy and starting Ruck Rover.
Last night i thought he was very good, but probably 3rd or 4th best on ground.
Still number 1 player in the comp. Cant see anyone taking away his AA captaincy for a few years.
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No doubt about it? Ablett makes Judd look like an average battler.
Ablett makes Judd look like an auskick kid.
Safe to say now Judd is not the best anymore.
Safe to say now Judd is not the best anymore.
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Couldnt agree more
. Anyone that thinks judd is better than ablett should get off the drugs. The guy is seriously overated. Tonights game couldnt be a better example. Ablett by a clear margin.
Does it matter who is the best? Both of them are superstars & would no doubt be handy additions to the current West Coast Eagles' list. Suffice to say that the influence Judd has had at Carlton is plain for all to see & no-one is more grateful for his presence at Carlton than Marc Murphy, who knows he is very rarely going to be bothered by a tagger in the near future & is coming along in leaps & bounds as a result.
Judd is doing exactly what we wanted him to do at Carlton & has probably resulted in Carlton being ahead of where we really expected to be when he first arrived at the club, given how far back we were coming from.
It is funny watching some West Coast Eagles supporters jumping on the Ablett bandwagon, because it wasn't that long ago the same supporters were happy to sink the boots in to Ablett.
At the end of the day I would rather have Judd on our list than not on our list.
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Ablett is brilliant, but his job is easier when surrounded by hard nuts like ling, bartell and selwood, whom are also amongst the best midfielders in the game. They make so much room for him, and thats why Geelong are the best. He is still inside, but has room.
I think Judd would be brillant regardless of the team around him. Not taking anything away from Ablett, but Judd is number 1.
I think Judd would be brillant regardless of the team around him. Not taking anything away from Ablett, but Judd is number 1.
