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Prediction Lachlan Keeffe

How many games will Keeffe play next year?

  • 0

    Votes: 16 19.0%

  • 1-5

    Votes: 28 33.3%

  • 6-10

    Votes: 18 21.4%

  • 10-15

    Votes: 14 16.7%

  • 15+

    Votes: 7 8.3%

  • All games

    Votes: 1 1.2%
  • Total voters
    84

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CFC2010 said:
Why am I shit stirring?

My views on this topic have been consistent since I joined Bigfooty.

Back on topic, I still live in hope they get traded to the Gold Coast or Brisbane at the end of the year and they never pull on the Black & White again.......but that's just me.
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Getting trade value alone would be justification for retaining them for a year.
 
CFC2010 said:
Why am I shit stirring?

My views on this topic have been consistent since I joined Bigfooty.

Back on topic, I still live in hope they get traded to the Gold Coast or Brisbane at the end of the year and they never pull on the Black & White again.......but that's just me.
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Your views are not clear at all.
I asked the question so we could have clarity of indeed where you really stand.
Are they morally and ethically drug cheats? Or just technically drug cheats?
If you have circled A, morally and ethically they are drug cheats, my next question is are you taking the piss or are you genuine?

Please answer those questions so we can have a more deeper discussion.
At the moment we can't get a grip on you, or where you stand, you're a little slimy to be honest.
 
Neither will be delisted outright. It completely defeats the purpose of holding them over for a year if we are going to throw them out on the streets at the end of that year. If they arent traded they will both get a year at Collingwood in 2017, presuming they arrive in decent shape on day 1 when they are allowed to resume training. Collingwood only promised them that the'yd be rookie listed and have a chance to resume their careers....not neccessaily by us though.
 

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MagpieBrute said:
Your views are not clear at all.
I asked the question so we could have clarity of indeed where you really stand.
Are they morally and ethically drug cheats? Or just technically drug cheats?
If you have circled A, morally and ethically they are drug cheats, my next question is are you taking the piss or are you genuine?

Please answer those questions so we can have a more deeper discussion.
At the moment we can't get a grip on you, or where you stand, you're a little slimy to be honest.
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Really slimy?

Drug cheats are drug cheats.

Who would have thought their Drugs might have been tainted? :huh:
 
CFC2010 said:
Really slimy?

Drug cheats are drug cheats.

Who would have thought their Drugs might have been tainted? :huh:
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Yes, I but that's my perception, of you, because, you haven't really answered the question.
Are they, technically drug cheats, or both morally and ethically, as well as technically drug cheats?

If you indeed think that Keeffe should be tarnished with the same brush as say, Ben Johnson the sprinter in the eighties who was on roids, then unfortunately, you are lacking moral judgement. I know that's a little personal but, I think the truth is, you've adopted the 'black hat', devils advocate view, maybe 'shit stirring', and there's an obvious trade off, which sort of makes you lacking in morality, I'm sorry for making a personal judgement, but it would be better if you could state exactly where you stand while you don the black hat so we can indulge deeper into the subject.
 
I agree with CFC2010 on this. They are drug cheats and in my opinion it doesn't really matter how they ingested the substance. None of us really know for sure if they are telling the truth about that either.

I didn't agree with the decision to rookie them and think we would have been better off giving those spots to someone else.
 
MagpieBrute said:
Yes, I but that's my perception, of you, because, you haven't really answered the question.
Are they, technically drug cheats, or both morally and ethically, as well as technically drug cheats?

If you indeed think that Keeffe should be tarnished with the same brush as say, Ben Johnson the sprinter in the eighties who was on roids, then unfortunately, you are lacking moral judgement. I know that's a little personal but, I think the truth is, you've adopted the 'black hat', devils advocate view, maybe 'shit stirring', and there's an obvious trade off, which sort of makes you lacking in morality, I'm sorry for making a personal judgement, but it would be better if you could state exactly where you stand while you don the black hat.
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In the record books they are Drug Cheats.

The truth is I have heard another theory regarding Clen that i haven't read on Bigfooty......don't ask because this conversation is getting boring and this thread has been derailed enough.

It's time you played with another slimy person.....we will never agree mate.
 
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CFC2010 said:
What's to debate they are drug cheats......you and the Club disagree so all the more power to you both.

By the way my moral compas is ok.....but again that's just my opinion.
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They are just as much drug cheats as they are drug addicts or drug dealers.
Obviously you have some reason for your stance, but as you say, "What's to debate?"
They got unlucky the rec drugs they used were cut with something on the WADA banned list.
 
Pie eyed said:
They are just as much drug cheats as they are drug addicts or drug dealers.
Obviously you have some reason for your stance, but as you say, "What's to debate?"
They got unlucky the rec drugs they used were cut with something on the WADA banned list.
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Sorry Pie eyed but I can't cop the "I slipped over and my nostril landed on a line of Cocaine" excuse.

It shouldn't be a prerequisite that Collingwood Footballers don't have any brains especially after our CEO's drug crusade.

Pert is on record as saying he thought the Keeffee/Thomas suspension would have acted as a deterrent (I thought the same) but in the end we have dumb footballers at our Club......fact.

Luck doesn't come into it for me.

Haven't heard anything from our CEO lately besides the woman's teams announcement and of all things a lottery for the bottom teams and the draft order.

Great work moving the goal post Pert from talking up our next Premiership under Bucks to now manoeuvring to change the draft order at the bottom of the ladder........is that our next goal like his anti drug stance?

Apologies mods for derailing the thread once again..........last post on this topic for me.
Unfortynately this topic is like the mafia to me........I'm trying to get out but they keep dragging me back in! :D
 

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Pie eyed said:
They are just as much drug cheats as they are drug addicts or drug dealers.
Obviously you have some reason for your stance, but as you say, "What's to debate?"
They got unlucky the rec drugs they used were cut with something on the WADA banned list.
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This is not a fact.
 
CFC2010 said:
In the record books they are Drug Cheats.

The truth is I have heard another theory regarding Clen that i haven't read on Bigfooty......don't ask because this conversation is getting boring and this thread has been derailed enough.

It's time you played with another slimy person.....we will never agree mate.
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I would like to know why you didn't go with tell me that the first time? After four goes finally you tell me you don't believe their story. Sorry but my judgement is different to yours. I don't believe you. And I'm not sorry for being a little vigorous in debate.

We'll probably never know, but I believe Keeffe did have his drugs spiked, and his facebook outburst if legitimately him, sort of suggests his story to be true. Furthermore, because I believe you justified your position on the run, my judgement is that your behaviour in the last two pages in this threads is worse then Keeffe's night on the town. That is from a moral standpoint.

If you don't have to believe Keeffe, than why do I have to believe you? Because I don't, you justified your position on the run IMO.
 
MagpieBrute said:
Furthermore, because I believe you justified your position on the run, my judgement is that your behaviour in the last two pages in this threads is worse then Keeffe's night on the town. That is from a moral standpoint.
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Not sure how many of CFC2010 's posts you have read in the past 18 months. He has been consistently anti both illegal and performance enhancing drugs. I disagree with him on some of his reasoning. But to suggest he is slimy is really off the mark. He posts with generosity and good will to other board members.
 
MagpieBrute said:
I would like to know why you didn't go with tell me that the first time? After four goes finally you tell me you don't believe their story. Sorry but my judgement is different to yours. I don't believe you. And I'm not sorry for being a little vigorous in debate.

We'll probably never know, but I believe Keeffe did have his drugs spiked, and his facebook outburst if legitimately him, sort of suggests his story to be true. Furthermore, because I believe you justified your position on the run, my judgement is that your behaviour in the last two pages in this threads is worse then Keeffe's night on the town. That is from a moral standpoint.

If you don't have to believe Keeffe, than why do I have to believe you? Because I don't, you justified your position on the run IMO.
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You're a funny guy P C.

Fight the good fight champ! :triumph:
 
WalterBlaknWhte said:
Not sure how many of CFC2010 's posts you have read in the past 18 months. He has been consistently anti both illegal and performance enhancing drugs. I disagree with him on some of his reasoning. But to suggest he is slimy is really off the mark. He posts with generosity and good will to other board members.
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I didn't say he was slimy in that post. I said he was being a little hard to get a grip on previously. I know he can also post with generosity and I respect that. He also posts like he did in the last two pages in this thread.
 

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CFC2010 said:
You're a funny guy P C.

Fight the good fight champ!
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LOL you're the one fighting the fight you can't win. Recreational drugs is a societal issue and one that will never be won. That also includes what young men ingest at the CFC, not now, not in twenty years, not ever, but you keep fighting the good fight. :triumph: :thumbsu:
 
WalterBlaknWhte said:
Not sure how many of CFC2010 's posts you have read in the past 18 months. He has been consistently anti both illegal and performance enhancing drugs. I disagree with him on some of his reasoning. But to suggest he is slimy is really off the mark. He posts with generosity and good will to other board members.
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Thanks for the back up but MagpieBrute or the reincarnated Pancit has a few issues.....I can handle it.

The bunny boiler makes me laugh actually.......water of a ducks back for a slimy duck like me. :)
 
CFC2010 said:
Thanks for the back up but MagpieBrute or the reincarnated Pancit has a few issues.....I can handle it.

The bunny boiler makes me laugh actually.......water of a ducks back for a slimy duck like me. :)
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You broke two rules there CFC, you tagged me in and then got personal, really personal. We've all got issues, you, me, Keeffe, everyone, LOL. FWIW, I'm not going to report your post nor do I want action taken, cause I did make that little remark. Truth is there was a lot of other interesting discussion going on. My comment was one sentence amongst it and is starting to be taken out of context. I hope you can see that you did just lose any moral high ground you may have thought you had though because I said you were 'being' a little slimy to handle'. :thumbsu:
 
CFC2010 said:
Yeah agreed on that point.

I hope that is the Clubs grand plan anyway.
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If the clubs plan is to rookie draft players, have them sit on the sidelines for a year and then consider them to be of value in a trade...

They'll be on our list next year. Hopefully they have somehow become better players over the last two years.
 
Magpie Girl said:
Interesting debate going on here
Just be careful not to make the comments too personal please
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So no Monty Python Quotes like:

"I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"
 
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