lacking middle tear to be contenders

[brookers#5]

yea kpp win u flags, this may seem biased but i believe we have most area's covered aslong as everyone keeps improving as they are obvious exceptions are the small quick crumbing forward & a skillful outside midfielder, with the draft selections its just culculated guessing even thoe its becoming more of a science every year

 

[brookers#5]

chf win u games but its hard to comment on other 2 never sore them but i get your point tell me the difference in the last 2 grannys & tell me why the results were reversed

 

[Duckworth]

yea kpp win u flags, this may seem biased but i believe we have most area's covered aslong as everyone keeps improving as they are obvious exceptions are the small quick crumbing forward & a skillful outside midfielder, with the draft selections its just culculated guessing even thoe its becoming more of a science every year

Yeah you guys will do ok. Need to get some more games into guys like Lewis, Franklin and Roughead. Great players that will reach their prime in a couple of years. I know Hodge plays back a bit - is skillful though. Yeah forward offensive quick players are almost essential to a team atm. Apparently you can just pick them up as you need them in the draft....

 

[brookers#5]

haha yea we have an influx of great kpp forwards but minimal crumming ones hodge is so good becuase he can get hard footy but get the easy footy aswell & play everywhere on the ground what we need is a dal santo type to develop as that gun user of the footy we have most other positions covered if gilham keeps developing aswell as dawson

 

[Duckworth]

chf win u games but its hard to comment on other 2 never sore them but i get your point tell me the difference in the last 2 grannys & tell me why the results were reversed

one team on the way up. the other on the way down. (if you look at the ladder positions now). A 1 point victory is too difficult to explain, the butterfly effect. What are you getting at?

 

[Duckworth]

haha yea we have an influx of great kpp forwards but minimal crumming ones hodge is so good becuase he can get hard footy but get the easy footy aswell & play everywhere on the ground what we need is a dal santo type to develop as that gun user of the footy we have most other positions covered if gilham keeps developing aswell as dawson

How is Youngy going? I went to school with his brother.

 

[brookers#5]

yea took a massive step forward on sunday he goes into the bracket of taylor mcglynn gilham boyle who i was sceptical of at the start of the year but have been impressive & are the reason y we r where we r.
its good to have an insightful chat tried to have the same on the tigers & doggies bored & just got shut down.

 

[brookers#5]

does he have down syndrome?

 

[Duckworth]

yea took a massive step forward on sunday he goes into the bracket of taylor mcglynn gilham boyle who i was sceptical of at the start of the year but have been impressive & are the reason y we r where we r.
its good to have an insightful chat tried to have the same on the tigers & doggies bored & just got shut down.

Big fan of Boyle. Who are Hawks fringe players and how do they match up to Essendon? Can you give me 6 Hawthorn Fringe players. This might give us an idea how each team is going.

 

[Duckworth]

how did you know that? that's his younger brother.

 

[brookers#5]

vandenberg dixon thorpe muston clark jacobs (willow could push out a roughy or boyle)

 

[brookers#5]

read a story last year that some of the boys went down that way & did something with him & some other down syndrome kids

 

[Duckworth]

Ok then who would you rather:

vandenberg dixon thorpe muston clark jacobs or

Monfries, Nash, Bradley, Campo, Laycock, Bolton

 

[brookers#5]

i think ours purely for the fact none of them played on the weekend where some of yourse did so i think maybe our depth is better where all them are not playing either injured or not getting a game where some of your ones are playing like the fringe players in the side would be mcglynn smith young who are probably better then the ones u mentioned

 

[Duckworth]

i think ours purely for the fact none of them played on the weekend where some of yourse did so i think maybe our depth is better where all them are not playing either injured or not getting a game where some of your ones are playing like the fringe players in the side would be mcglynn smith young who are probably better then the ones u mentioned

Yeah fair call, I think your depth is probably better. Definitely a better depth in the youth department. The benefits of the youth policy starting to come through. Vandenberg and Jacobs are injured though so that is prob why they weren't playing

 

[brookers#5]

jacobs is fit got dropped on the weekend & played for box hill as the young kids kick on he'll slowly be gone did u find at essendon he looks incredibly lazy he has the tools to be a good player but just doesn't do enough. yea i think we have the best depth in kids but who knows they could all go off the rails

 

[Duckworth]

jacobs is fit got dropped on the weekend & played for box hill as the young kids kick on he'll slowly be gone did u find at essendon he looks incredibly lazy he has the tools to be a good player but just doesn't do enough. yea i think we have the best depth in kids but who knows they could all go off the rails

Well as I understand it he left Essendon purely to get more money. That he was white trash and only wanted money. (perhaps I am just bitter ) I always thought he had good skills, perhaps a bit slow. Slow looks a bit like lazy I guess... look at Richard Cole (Fat and slow also = lazy)

 

[brookers#5]

yea thats tru but i guess unless u have a good look at each list your not 100% which is better

 

[brookers#5]

its been good having some good banter good luck for the rest of the season & i'm sure we'll have a chat about something in the future

 

[Duckworth]

yea thats tru but i guess unless u have a good look at each list your not 100% which is better

Yeah it's hard to say because more than the list determines how a season plays out. So to get back to your original point about middle tier players so many other factors are important: collegiality, the coach, injuries, leadership, off field drama, drug addictions & associating with criminals. Nothing is certain. We have had lots of close wins so who knows.... thanks for the chat.

 

[danzan22]

Ok then who would you rather:

vandenberg dixon thorpe muston clark jacobs or

Monfries, Nash, Bradley, Campo, Laycock, Bolton

Replace Bolton with Dyson

Bolton should not be in the team, form doesnt warrent a selection.

 

[RED AND BLACK SOLDIER]

ok sorry didn't mean to steal your thunder. By the way it is good conversing with another team's supporter in a civil manner for a change. Some players like Watson, Lovett, Davey, McVeigh, Welsh, Winderlich are good enough middle Tier players IMO. It is the ones I mentioned that are the problem.

Would you class Watson as a middle tier player? I thought that he was in the upper class in the team and was one of our elite midfielders would be in our top 3 of midfielders. Hopefully Winderlich can become/develop into more than just a middle tier player, and i think he will.

 

[ant555]

yea really like ryder cant help but comparing him to franklin for obvious reasons that injection of speed from davey & jetta has made u better but i still think u need that in midfield. gumbleton can play but in all honesty i think hansen leuenberger & thorpe all looked better then him last year

A lot of others saw it differently and had Gumbleton the best player out of that group. I thought he was pretty much even with Hanson last year.

 

[ant555]

do you think this year might be bad for your development let me explain before you shoot me down but all your guns are the wrong side of 30 & therefore wont be around much longer would u agree that maybe it would of been a good time to rebuild get some moor quality youngsters to the club do u think possibly this year might be dentimental to the future of the club just a thought

So what you are saying is we should have told Hird not to bother playing this year. ***** off Hirdy and retire.
Then we should have told Fletcher , Lucas and Lloyd that they had no future at the club and they where going to be traded.
Heres a little fact for you , over the last 4 years only Hawthorn has brought more kids onto their list than us.So you could say we have already been doing a fair bit of rebuilding. We have turned over about half our list in the last 3 years.

 

[Jono B]

Ok I will just give a few of my thoughts. The big problem with Essendon is the lack of players in thier mid-twenties with about 100 games experience (In fact we don't have any 25 year olds). This is mainly because of poor drafting at the turn of the century.