Let's assess - what do we do from here?

[kulak]

Tank for draft picks?

 

[fryingpan]

The funny thing is that more people played well today than not. Maric, Goodwin, Vince, Mackay, Douglas, Schmidt, Burton, Rutten all had good games. We've had a slow start, just like last year but if we start getting back into 2009 form and have a full list to choose from, we can certainly still make the 8. Although I must say my faith in Craig is dwindling. We roughen the **** up as well, some physical presence is a must. I will still be going Saturday and supporting the boys and I believe we can win, but ffs I want to see some Carlton players on the ground struggling to get up!

 

[Lordcrud]

First thing Adelaide need to do is change back their logo. We have stank since changing to it and it symbolises our softness having such a chidlish logo and uniform. I don't expect anyone wearing a pokemon t-shirt to lay an effective tackle in the AFL.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

I for one disagree

I knew you would. How did Mcleod go today. In between waving farewell to the crowd and kissing babies, he amassed 14 possesions and layed 1 tackle. No bad in a game where we really needed our senior players to show some toughness and leadership. You have to feel for Tyson.

 

[fairfooty]

Where to from here? 2010 has a long way to go yet.

I'll continue to warm my season seat at AAMI every home game, and the occasional interstate game where I can, support my beloved crows, particularly the youngsters, through thick and thin (yep sounds like a marriage and in some ways it is!) - and recognise Craigy has a difficult few months ahead trying to field an injury free team of youngsters - and that this may end up being a transitional year for the team - earlier than expected - and that's fine.

 

[BACCS]

Try and do our best to stick behind the team, even in this tough period. I know it is bloody hard, but think about how it would be to support Richmond. I have a good feeling we can turn it around this week against the Blues, who haven't looked much good either. And after that, just pray some good luck eventuates.

 

[Vader]

I'm amazed everyone keeps picking on Edwards yet Mcleod is having much less of an impact

Macca's not having the same impact he had when he was younger. However, his disposals are almost always to the advantage of the Crows (with the exception of one long bomb into our forward line today when we had nobody forward of centre at the time). Whilst he wasn't that great against Melbourne he was definitely one of our better players in the Sydney game the week before.

Edwards' skill errors are actively hurting the team, having cost us goals in all 3 games so far. He's regularly missing targets - and killing us when he turns the ball over inside our defensive 50 due to his inability to hit a target.

There's a world of difference between where these two are currently at.

 

[Macjoe]

Be thankful that Danger appears not to have serious injury.

Hope he and all the other injured Crows make a speedy recovery.

Support all the kids who will be taking their opportunities.

And selfishly, hope like hell that the rest of the year at Footy Park isn't too painful. To help make the 10 home games we will be watching less painful:

Suggest the coaching team realise that we will not get a fit group of even semi-experienced players who have working knowledge of the game plan together in the near future.

Scrap the time spent at training honing the fancy moves designed to defeat top 4 sides, and instead have the fittest, most in form of our players work together. They could practice practice effective tackling, getting the hard ball, and hitting targets.

Just hope the coaches consider the supporters who will be at the 10 home games left, and let the players start to play some freeflowing, accountable football. I know it won't get us into the four, or the eight, but a different style, closer to the footy most of our inexperienced players are used to from the SANFL, may keep us out of the bottom 4.

Of course our kids struggle with the complex demands of the Crows game plan, but success in SANFL sides shows many of them can play very good football. And while we watch them get games under their belt it would be good if they were encouraged to play football as they already know it.

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That way, we are more likely to enjoy the games we watch, win or loose.

 

[Crow-mo]

"we'll" do nothing because "we're" a bunch of nobodies.

The club on the other hand might do well to drop edwards and bring in a block of wood.

more quality opinions, keep it up

 

[moogerfooger]

its far too early to panic. there are still 19 games to go and our draw is still soft. we were 1-3 after a humiliating loss to Port in Round 4 of 1997 and that season ended OK. I'm not writing anything off just yet.

 

[Ask Sandy]

Tank for draft picks?

Hey yeah! Let's tank for quality draft picks. Aren't they all gifted to GC this year? Wouldn't this be the worst year to date to tank in a draft?

 

[taylor_walker_13]

Okay had some time to calm down and let what happened yesterday sink in.

As we all know we lost all our rotations pretty much from 1/4 time we also lost four handy players that all could have made the difference.

Towards the end of last year we had a dominating high scoring group of players and the AFC thought well lets run with this and decided to hang onto all four vetrens, HUGE mistake Burton and Edwrads should have gone last year, yes Burton did some nice things yesterday BUT once he had Frawley put on him that was it no futher influence, next problem is a ruckmen and clearnances, we are getting SMASHED our ruckmen are probably the worse in the AFL right now and arent of great quality once you get past Maric, put Tippet in the ruck and you are 'robbing peter to pay paul' Griffen isnt upto it Moran far too injury prone and really when you have alot better ruckmen in the AFL he gets made to look silly, Sellar once again very injury prone but he has proven he can be a good backup.

Next problem the zone, kickouts from an oppostion behind, if Melbourne can work this out and shut it down then we have MAJOR issues, it needs to be changed because it isnt working, we arent scoring, we are playing too wide and our disposal is woeful how can a player at AFL level not hit a target by foot 15m away is beyond me, hell I could go out there and at least do that, our intensity is lackluster we looks slow and flat footed.

I hate to say this but the AFC as a whole have made some terrible descions, we are now have that compounded with some major injury worries, we have dropped our heads and 2010 could now possibly be the worst in the clubs history, the AFC have gone out to try and do everything they can to avoid bottoming out, but I think this year it will just happen, as supporters we need to ride the bumps and stick by the club and the players and show them we support them 100%, look Im as disappointed as anyone and had high expectations this year, but major changes need to happen with the way we play our intensity and desperation.

 

[crowralph]

i can't understand why we're going in with only 1 ruckman each week. we played good football late last year with maric and sellar backing him up. with a few underdone players i understand that they might be after an extra runner, but we are getting destroyed in the ruck. sellar is also capable of adequately covering for key position player if need be, so he's not entirely a one-dimensional player. i don't like tippett going into the ruck, although we don't seem to be able to enter the 50 much closer to goal than about 35m at the moment, so he is being wasted a bit.

 

[Vader]

i can't understand why we're going in with only 1 ruckman each week. we played good football late last year with maric and sellar backing him up. with a few underdone players i understand that they might be after an extra runner, but we are getting destroyed in the ruck. sellar is also capable of adequately covering for key position player if need be, so he's not entirely a one-dimensional player. i don't like tippett going into the ruck, although we don't seem to be able to enter the 50 much closer to goal than about 35m at the moment, so he is being wasted a bit.

We didn't have a whole lot of choice against Freo - Maric & Sellar hadn't played much in the MMC and McKernan had underwhelmed. They figured they were going to lose to Sandilands no matter who (or how many) we played, so playing another midfielder would be of more benefit than a 2nd ruckman. That said, we expected our ruckman to compete.. for some reason the coaches forgot that the aforementioned ruckman was Griffin.

We did play 2 ruckmen against Sydney, with Maric & Sellar starting the game. Unfortunately, Sellar got injured early in the 2nd term after being one of our better players in the 1st.

Against Melbourne, we knew they were only going to play 1 ruckman (Jamar) and opted to do likewise. It's not like we were overly spoiled for options, with Sellar injured, McKernan not performing to AFL standard and Griffin doing his best impression of the tin man.

Hopefully we'll get Sellar back this week and we'll go into the Carlton game with 2 ruckmen once again. Failing that, McKernan will come into the side even if he doesn't have any SANFL form behind him.

 

[Tex200]

There are 2 positional issues in particular that I would like to see addressed;

Vince - I see this morning he was named BP but was clearly racking up touches in the back half. It seems to me that the way we are dealing with the hard tag issue is to let him float in between back pocket and half back. I would think this plays into the opposition hands as he really did not hurt Melbourne yesterday. I would think they would be quiter happy to release the tag and let Bernie wax away.

Last season he was running forward and either putting the ball inside 50 or kicking goals himself. I stand corrected but I dont think he would have had a single shot on goal this year. Surely we must have him running forward.

Walker - This guy in the most natural leading forward Ive just about ever seen. When he is leading out from full forward he is a magician, finding time and space where there is none. In a game of zoning/flooding defences, Walker can miraculously bob up unopposed for an easy chest mark. Yet we are intent on playing him up the ground which seems to overlook and waste the very talent that he has got.

I feel these are 2 glaring positional issues which are hurting us at the moment.

 

[crowralph]

We didn't have a whole lot of choice against Freo - Maric & Sellar hadn't played much in the MMC and McKernan had underwhelmed. They figured they were going to lose to Sandilands no matter who (or how many) we played, so playing another midfielder would be of more benefit than a 2nd ruckman. That said, we expected our ruckman to compete.. for some reason the coaches forgot that the aforementioned ruckman was Griffin.

We did play 2 ruckmen against Sydney, with Maric & Sellar starting the game. Unfortunately, Sellar got injured early in the 2nd term after being one of our better players in the 1st.

Against Melbourne, we knew they were only going to play 1 ruckman (Jamar) and opted to do likewise. It's not like we were overly spoiled for options, with Sellar injured, McKernan not performing to AFL standard and Griffin doing his best impression of the tin man.

Hopefully we'll get Sellar back this week and we'll go into the Carlton game with 2 ruckmen once again. Failing that, McKernan will come into the side even if he doesn't have any SANFL form behind him.

thanks for that. i missed the first half against sydney and mustn't have noticed sellar on the bench. i guess a couple of beers will do that. taking 1 in against sandilands pretty much guarantees we'll get destroyed there. maric was travelling emergency, so surely he would have been good for half a game of footy. with tippett rucking the forward 30 arc and griffin and maric the rest, at least sandilands would have been absolutely buggerred by the end of the game. doubtful there were any selections that would have won us that game though. same with melbourne, if they're going in with 1 ruckman, then that is a weakness we could hope to exploit. as much as i like maric, i don't reckon he can handle the position as a lone hand. i know tippett can provide relief in that area, but i really don't believe he should be moved out of the forward 50.

 

[Crow-mo]

As we all know we lost all our rotations pretty much from 1/4 time we also lost four handy players that all could have made the difference.

this is just factually untrue. it was only towards the back end of the 3rd Qtr that we started to really have problems in this area.

we had been serving up **** long before then.

 

[johnnypanther]

I'm amazed everyone keeps picking on Edwards yet Mcleod is having much less of an impact

well..... McLeod was in our POTY top 6 in the first 2 games this year.
I've only seen the 1st quarter replay of this Melbourne match and i thought he did fine..... but obviously judging by the comments, he bombed out in the last 3 quarters.

Nevertheless, Edwards for whatever reason has been poor this year, but there are at least another 19 games to go...... and he is not an orphan in his poor performance so far.

 

[kulak]

Hey yeah! Let's tank for quality draft picks. Aren't they all gifted to GC this year? Wouldn't this be the worst year to date to tank in a draft?

Yes

 

[cammo84]

I'm having an optimistic view on the situation, at the moment. I think back to 2007, Geelong were going pretty ordinary after 5 or 6 rounds and their supporters were calling for Thompson's head. We all know the end of this story... it's on page 119.

Our list is of a lower quality than Geelong's list of that year, but it just reminds me that the season is very long and anything can happen.

I think we really miss Johncock at the moment. There's been quite a few goals scored against us this season that probably wouldn't have happened if we had Johncock back there. We've had smaller forwards kicking too many goals against us.

I'm hoping once we get Johncock and Stevens back in, we can have a little more stability in defence. As unfashionable as Scott Stevens is, he's a handy 3rd tall and we could have used him on the weekend when Hentschel and Bock went down.

 

[pjcrows]

Scrap the time spent at training honing the fancy moves designed to defeat top 4 sides, and instead have the fittest, most in form of our players work together.

Funny how at the end of 2009 the main call was the total opposite - scrap the time spent on "fitness" and "science" and spend time on developing a game plan to defeat Top 4 sides.