Lets not talk about the Umps

[Cap]

I'd like to propose a new self-governing rule regarding talking about umpiring.

I think we can agree that we don't go to the footy to talk about the umps, we can also agree that 99% of the time umpires decisions don't make a team win or lose.

Given that, I would like to see the Adelaide Board drop any discussion about the umps in match day or match review threads. It doesn't require any football knowledge to slag off at the umps, generally its people who don't understand the rules that are the first to have a crack so really it makes people look less knowledgeable. The umps don't go out to be bias and given peoples differing opinion on what they want from them its always going to be a lose-lose situation for them.

Please don't start talking about extreme results or decisions because whilst not irrelevant they don't need to be the basis of discussion.

What do people think, can we have a board that eliminates the need to discuss umpiring?

 

[Drummond]

Great thread this, 6 stars.

 

[Cap]

I wouldn't expect anything more from you Drum

 

[jackster83]

What do people think, can we have a board that eliminates the need to discuss umpiring?

Compu'er says no.

 

[Cap]

well thats two from two.....

but hardly suprising, it is after all difficult to avoid the lowest common denominator

 

[aneale]

I can still abuse them from the stands when they blow the whistle and both ruckmen either look at each other, then look at the ump, then back at each other with their arms out, or both run back to take their kick tho' right?

 

[Cap]

oh yeah, sure you can! if it makes you feel better.

just don't put it in the "good, bad,ugly" thread

 

[Dandy_GO]

Pppppppfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt

 

[Briggzy]

Seeing how the free 50s are being judged this weekend, I have a feeling many may want to vent. I do agree that blaming umpires for the result of the game is absurd.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Will the policy extend to 5AA talkback callers?

The 30 minutes after a home loss is generally an umpire-bashing fest.

 

[Vader]

Umpires are human and will make mistakes from time to time. Most of the time though, their mistakes are evenly shared. For example, Melbourne missed out on a number of marks which should have been paid, while we missed out on a number of HTB decisions.

Where people have a right to complain is when the umpiring is clearly biased against us, for example our the infamous St Kilda game early in 2009 (with a repeat performance in 2010). On those occasions, all the dubious decisions and non-decisions went in favour of St Kilda. The Saints truly were fielding 25 players.

Essendon don't have a great reputation for having free rides from the umpires, so while there will no doubt be some dodgy decisions (or non-decisions in favour of Tippett), it will probably be fairly even in the end.

 

[smoovy]

Can we talk about Kevin Sheedy's green martians?

This is likely to be the worst umpired game in history now.

2 words Razor Ray

 

[Cap]

the point being that in the length of a season, the umps have stuff all impact and really aren't worth discussing when you want to talk about how your team is going.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I'll stop whinging about the umpires when they stop reaming us.


No deal.

 

[Riggy1]

You do know the rule book leaves so many grey areas that even though the umpire and the fan see it differently, both can be right

How about we make 1 bitch about the umps thread
and ill go through it post game and quote rules back at you to point out how stupid you all are (give me quarter time and incident)

fwiw - once I read the rule book this last offseason, I've actually realised how good the umpires are with the rules, and think this is the best umpired season I've ever seen

ps - some of the obscure rules you wouldn't know

such as - if a player is behind the goal/behind line and tries to kick it in and it hits any of the posts he gets to take his kick again instead of it being behind/out on the full

or perhaps - if a player has the ball from Out on the full, kicks it and doesn't re-enter the field of play, it's a boundry throw in from where the kick took place instead of out on the full (I've seen some umps make this mistake a bit)

or perhaps one that isn't obscure that the crowd/commentators are ignorant of - advantage, some think it is the players choice. It was a trial rule for the NAB Cup FFS, hasn't been used outside of those 15 games. How stupid some are

 

[Southerntakeover]

No, the existence of obscure rules is a terrible justification for some of the basic errors. Theres no obscure rule that says Kurt Tippett is allowed to be shot, stabbed and harpooned every time he goes for the ****ing ball.

 

[Cap]

I'll stop whinging about the umpires when they stop reaming us.


No deal.

thats what the other 15 teams keep saying, I think GC and GWS are practicing to make sure they can keep up with it all.

 

[Southerntakeover]

thats what the other 15 teams keep saying, I think GC and GWS are practicing to make sure they can keep up with it all.

I dont really give a crap what the other teams are saying.

Dont the stats show we've got the worst differential in the league?

We were kicked out of the god damn finals last year on an umpiring decision.


P.s. theres nothing worse than people who feel superior because they cant enjoy the actual fun involved in supporting football, such as going feral at the umpires.

 

[Riggy1]

No, the existence of obscure rules is a terrible justification for some of the basic errors. Theres no obscure rule that says Kurt Tippett is allowed to be shot, stabbed and harpooned every time he goes for the ****ing ball.

But there is an unwritten rule saying do not give frees to players who play for free kicks

 

[King Elvis]

Yes and No.

Good in theory, but in the heat of the moment, in a matchday thread, people are going to comment, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Cap]

P.s. theres nothing worse than people who feel superior because they cant enjoy the actual fun involved in supporting football, such as going feral at the umpires.

I'm not trying to come over as superior, i'm trying to look at it from a different perspective and just because people have done it in the past, that doesn't mean it need to continue.

I agree that going feral at the umps used to be part of the footy experience, but unfortunately like everything these days its gone OTT and far too extreme, its to the point that people focus on the umps instead of the game

 

[Vader]

Given that we've got 2 goals from 50m penalties so far, plus another for a free to Tippett (push in the back). 3 of our 5 goals have come from the umpires...

So far they're on our side. Unusual.

 

[jenny61_99]

I think Razor Ray was given an order pre-game tonight. Either that or a personality transplant.

Umpiring was BIZARRE tonight. So not used to that.

 

[Cap]

so do we have complaints tonight...or mainly silence because we won?

 

[Vader]

so do we have complaints tonight...or mainly silence because we won?

I'll let you know when I've seen the replay (currently got it paused at quarter time). We're 8-3 up in the free count so far, so it's probably fair to say that we haven't had much to complain about.

I did spot one 50m penalty which the umpire missed. Sloane had a free kick behind and right of the centre square. A crows player ran around behind him, his Essendon opponent ran between Sloane and the player on the mark. Instant 50m or it should have been. Not paid. That said, the impact was nil - Sloane was waiting for the ball to be returned, so the player running over the mark didn't affect his ability to dispose of it at all.