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I'm glad I don't live in a city.

Sound like toxic places of despair for all but the upper middle and above class.


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I'm glad I don't live in a city.

Sound like toxic places of despair for all but the upper middle and above class.


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If you don't have disposal income it would be horrific imo. I live in Melbourne, maybe 6km's out. If I didn't have money to go to sport, music, bars and all the different events that pass through (some of which are free) I would not live here.

When you think of things that are free and enjoyable I think the beach (90 minutes until you find a decent one not too packed), the bush (another 90 until you're into proper remote areas) and I'm sure there's more things which are probably overpopulated here to the point they're not that enjoyable.

If Hobart wasn't so cold over winter I'd be there in a heart beat.
 

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Of course people in cities also seem to have jobs made up jobs that all pay handsomely so I guess they get by.


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Don't think it's a city vs bush thing (hell, regional Australia often has a much larger suicide rate). I do wonder if it's more a generational thing. I only know of less than a handful of people that committed suicide (some pretty tangential connections too) but it seems younger people know a lot more.
 
Old folk I speak to who grew up in the country love it. Young ones couldn't wait to leave. I guess the digital age where everything is connected has a say in that. Plus everyone has the patience of a puppy now
 
I'm glad I don't live in a city.

Sound like toxic places of despair for all but the upper middle and above class.


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Swings and roundabouts, I think. I've never been as lonely or as bored as I was when I lived in the country. At least there's plenty of distractions in the city.
 
I grew up in the city, moved inner city because the burbs were boring.
Live in a 1 horse town now and love it.
Still love a good crazy city too but not to live permanently in.
 
I know nobody that has took their own life in my age group in this town.

Discontent is the luxury of the well to do after all.


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Born and bred in the city but lived in the country for 15 years, back in the city now and to be honest I prefer it. There were lots of great things about living in the country but everyone knowing your beeswax was not a thing I enjoyed! Also a lot harder to get to the G to see the Hawks.

I have a SIL who was from the country. She moved to the city when she was young, married my brother and swore never to return to the country. Guess where they are now :p

As far as suicide goes I knew more people who did it in the country than the city. In our neck of the woods there were a few farmers who ended it all when things got bad and one guy in the town who killed his wife then himself.
 

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If you don't have disposal income it would be horrific imo. I live in Melbourne, maybe 6km's out. If I didn't have money to go to sport, music, bars and all the different events that pass through (some of which are free) I would not live here.

When you think of things that are free and enjoyable I think the beach (90 minutes until you find a decent one not too packed), the bush (another 90 until you're into proper remote areas) and I'm sure there's more things which are probably overpopulated here to the point they're not that enjoyable.

If Hobart wasn't so cold over winter I'd be there in a heart beat.
Of course people in cities also seem to have jobs made up jobs that all pay handsomely so I guess they get by.


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That's it. More people migrate to cities then vice versa simply because it is where the jobs are.

Becomes a catch 22 as well. Think of the bush, beach, mountains etc all rolled into 1. If there were jobs there then everyone would want to live there so:
a) The environment gets cooked
b) There is competition to get the best spot to live in so the less well off are shoved further and further out to the point where they live an hour away.
c) By definition natural wonders are so far out it is not viable in some cases to live and work (Think Whitsundays how islands are spread).

What it is. People gravitate together to form trade =jobs=cities.
 
That's it. More people migrate to cities then vice versa simply because it is where the jobs are.

Becomes a catch 22 as well. Think of the bush, beach, mountains etc all rolled into 1. If there were jobs there then everyone would want to live there so:
a) The environment gets cooked
b) There is competition to get the best spot to live in so the less well off are shoved further and further out to the point where they live an hour away.
c) By definition natural wonders are so far out it is not viable in some cases to live and work (Think Whitsundays how islands are spread).

What it is. People gravitate together to form trade =jobs=cities.

So it's self fulfilling? If more people moved to regional areas then there would be some short term pain before the cycle began to take form?

'There's no jobs' say people who make no effort to grow an economy, only feed off it.


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When you go to the city and you tell someone you are from the country, do they often ask you how current agricultural crops are doing this season just assuming that you will be some sort of expert on such matters?
 
Old folk I speak to who grew up in the country love it. Young ones couldn't wait to leave.

Broadly speaking, old people (over 50s are born 1969 or earlier) grew up in the country when there were economic reasons for the towns to exist so decent employment was around therefore no need to leave. You Need A University Education wasn't a thing yet so moving to a big city wouldn't necessarily have improved their financial situation.

Today there's less jerbs, less sense of community because of needing a job, and young people on their smartphones know they're missing out on something and know the Coalition MP and Mayor the olds and bushies reelect have no ****ing intention of improving their lives.
 
Broadly speaking, old people (over 50s are born 1969 or earlier) grew up in the country when there were economic reasons for the towns to exist so decent employment was around therefore no need to leave. You Need A University Education wasn't a thing yet so moving to a big city wouldn't necessarily have improved their financial situation.

Today there's less jerbs, less sense of community because of needing a job, and young people on their smartphones know they're missing out on something and know the Coalition MP and Mayor the olds and bushies reelect have no ******* intention of improving their lives.
Last election the Labor rep was too lazy to even get someone to put up even one single sign anywhere out where I live, made me think twice about voting for her.

Not sure about election day but there was noone handing out HTV cards during pre-polling when I went.
 
Last election the Labor rep was too lazy to even get someone to put up even one single sign anywhere out where I live, made me think twice about voting for her.

Not sure about election day but there was noone handing out HTV cards during pre-polling when I went.
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Of course they are going to put more effort and resources into the marginal seats but there is no excuse for such fantastic laziness. For example there's a 2 railway crossing that have probably a 1000 local cars pass every day and every other party except them and the Greens halfwit/nutjobs had at least 1 sign. Not having anyone there at pre-polling is understandable but how much effort does it take to send out a couple of signs for someone to spend less than 10 minutes putting up?
 
If you're white, straight, bought the house before 1995, haven't had prolonged unemployment, didn't get divorced (particularly for women), haven't died or got debilitating illness, then country living has been pretty great as you're retired or nearly retired with a big pile of superannuation.

This of course applies to city people too.
 
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Yeah, I don't know anybody who has committed suicide.
We had one at the cricket club 25 years ago, and I know one person who attempted. And someone I barely knew in a very small locality (too small for town) killed herself about 30 years ago.
I've planned but not attempted to carry through myself; very close a couple of times as a teenager (in the end just too much of a coward, the horrid thought that maybe there is an after life was all that stopped me once) and was on the edge a couple of years back.
 
If you're white, straight, bought the house before 1995, haven't had prolonged unemployment, didn't get divorced (particularly for women), haven't died or got deliberating illness, then country living has been pretty great as you're retired or nearly retired with a big pile of superannuation.

This of course applies to city people too.
This is why you shouldn't smoke too much pot mate.
 
If you're white, straight, bought the house before 1995, haven't had prolonged unemployment, didn't get divorced (particularly for women), haven't died or got debilitating illness, then country living has been pretty great as you're retired or nearly retired with a big pile of superannuation.

This of course applies to city people too.

So what's the difference? My family faced prolonged unemployment. It wasn't because there was no jobs either. Just bad luck or maybe some petty behaviour by potential employers.


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