Resource List thread - Inaccuracy in official records

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Another update to the Melbourne numbers. Paul Payne is generally shown as #19 for all of 1986. He actually played in #43 until Round 17, then switched to #19 (previously occupied by Rodney Wright for two games earlier in the year) and mid-season recruit Len Gandini took #43. God knows why they went to the trouble instead of just sticking with the original numbers. Correction sent to AFL Tables, other outlets please note.
 

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Update regarding Bert James dod details.
Made contact with his son - who is Max James - the Port Adelaide and South Melbourne player.
He confirmed the death details were all correct except the year - Bert died in 1992, not 1991.

Can wiki please be updated by someone. Fyi also to Oliver Gigacz

Edit: son not father.
 
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Update regarding Bert James dod details.
Made contact with his father - who is Max James - the Port Adelaide and South Melbourne player.
He confirmed the death details were all correct except the year - Bert died in 1992, not 1991.

Can wiki please be updated by someone. Fyi also to Oliver Gigacz

Don't you mean Bert James was Max' dad and therefore the grandfather of Heath?
 

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Update regarding Bert James dod details.
Made contact with his son - who is Max James - the Port Adelaide and South Melbourne player.
He confirmed the death details were all correct except the year - Bert died in 1992, not 1991.

Can wiki please be updated by someone. Fyi also to Oliver Gigacz

Edit: son not father.

Also, does December 4 stay as date of death with corrected year of death?
 

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Query: When KB kicked his 7th goal in the 1980 GF, the commentators make reference several times that he had 'equal the record of the most goals in a Grand Final.' Yet Coventry had kicked 9 goals in the 1928 GF. Did the commentators not have that info? I dont believe 1928 GF was a 'right to challenge' match , it was just a standard Grand Final -so it would have counted
 

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Query: When KB kicked his 7th goal in the 1980 GF, the commentators make reference several times that he had 'equal the record of the most goals in a Grand Final.' Yet Coventry had kicked 9 goals in the 1928 GF. Did the commentators not have that info? I dont believe 1928 GF was a 'right to challenge' match , it was just a standard Grand Final -so it would have counted
When Dermott Brereton kicked 8 goals in the 1985 Grand Final it was also described as a record (from The Age):
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Also from The Age (four years later):
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I can remember Ablett's 1989 effort being talked about as the Grand Final record, and have no idea why Coventry's 1928 haul was ignored/forgotten!
 

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I have vague memories as a kid that these records were clarified as being 'post-war' records.

Like we have the term the 'modern-era', back in the eighties it was 'post war'.
 

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Maybe, they just looked it up in a book

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I recall the commentator (landy??) repeating the this factoid over and over during the game
but not heard it since

No author given on the book.
Who was the VFL equivalent of SA stats guru Ern kolosche at the time?
 
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Maybe, they just looked it up in a book

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I recall the commentator (landy??) repeating the this factoid over and over during the game
but not heard it since

No author given on the book.
Who was the VFL equivalent of SA stats guru Ern kolosche at the time?
That book was put out by the VFL:
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This is from the 1993 (AFL) Media Guide (forerunner to today's Season Guide):
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It omits Gordon Coventry's 9 (1928) and 7 goal (1930) hauls. The same list of players was shown in AFL '96, the first of the (modern) Season Guide's.

The book now includes those two hauls by Coventry, plus 7 goals from J. Dunstall (1988) and S. Kernahan (1993). The 2003 Season Guide appears to be the first that includes Coventry's 9 goal haul on this list, though it left off his 1930 7 goal performance, and the Dunstall one from 1988.
 

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This is from the 1993 (AFL) Media Guide (forerunner to today's Season Guide):
View attachment 750815

It omits Gordon Coventry's 9 (1928) and 7 goal (1930) hauls. The same list of players was shown in AFL '96, the first of the (modern) Season Guide's.

The book now includes those two hauls by Coventry, plus 7 goals from J. Dunstall (1988) and S. Kernahan (1993). The 2003 Season Guide appears to be the first that includes Coventry's 9 goal haul on this list, though it left off his 1930 7 goal performance, and the Dunstall one from 1988.
It’s weird how the title refers to there only seemingly being “Grand Finals” from 1931 onwards, but refers to a postponement from 1923
 

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It’s weird how the title refers to there only seemingly being “Grand Finals” from 1931 onwards, but refers to a postponement from 1923
Yes, for sure. I also found it a bit odd that the article in The Age (1985) did mention Coventry's effort (from 1930) among the 7 goal hauls. Why include that but not the 1928 performance?! Very puzzling indeed!
 

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