Magpies dead.

[Smithy7]

There are plenty of Magpies supporters who don't support the Power for one reason or another. I was a Port member from 1988 - 2013 and still attend Magpies games since then. I started following Brisbane and AFL in general when Nathan Buckley went there in '93. I went to a few Power games early on in '97 - '98 time frame. I never warmed to them though because the Power players themselves at the time were saying in the media that this is a new club and not the original Port Adelaide. I believed them, especially when the Port Adelaide i had known was still there in the SANFL in '97 with almost the exact same team that they had in '96. The Power of '97 on the other hand was full of strangers with a new uniform, new nickname, new colours, new song, new logo etc. Friends of mine who were Sturt supporters and who hated Port were now going for the "Power". It was a strange time and to judge someone like "Bovo" if you were not there at the time is a bit rich. If you were there then you would surely understand how the supporter base became fragmented and be a bit more open minded to different perspectives.

Joined today just to post this crap on Port Board ... Typical Troll.

 

[Alex09]

That's good but doesn't change why a Magpies fan in 1997 would have some indecision about automatically dropping their existing AFL team they supported(if they had one) to follow the new team.

The 2004 premiership side had 7 born and bred Port Adelaide players along with Mark Williams as head coach.

I'd doubt any AFL premier in the modern era could boast such a record.

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[RossFC]

If we entered a team into AFLW and had a Pink and White V jumper, or Pink Prison Bars. Does that mean it's a brand new club?

No, it's just a change in branding.

 

[Alex09]

Joined today just to post this crap on Port Board ... Typical Troll.

Who am i trolling? I don't disagree with anyone's point of view, just saying that there are different ones that are valid.

 

[Alex09]

If we entered a team into AFLW and had a Pink and White V jumper, or Pink Prison Bars. Does that mean it's a brand new club?

No, it's just a change in branding.

I don't know, but does it mean that you are a bad Power supporter and a troll, traitor etc if you continue to just happily support the Port AFL men's team but draw the line and decide not to follow this new pink and white women's Port team?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

There are plenty of Magpies supporters who don't support the Power for one reason or another. I was a Port member from 1988 - 2013 and still attend Magpies games since then. I started following Brisbane and AFL in general when Nathan Buckley went there in '93. I went to a few Power games early on in '97 - '98 time frame. I never warmed to them though because the Power players themselves at the time were saying in the media that this is a new club and not the original Port Adelaide. I believed them, especially when the Port Adelaide i had known was still there in the SANFL in '97 with almost the exact same team that they had in '96. The Power of '97 on the other hand was full of strangers with a new uniform, new nickname, new colours, new song, new logo etc. Friends of mine who were Sturt supporters and who hated Port were now going for the "Power". It was a strange time and to judge someone like "Bovo" if you were not there at the time is a bit rich. If you were there then you would surely understand how the supporter base became fragmented and be a bit more open minded to different perspectives.

Plenty isn't the majority - might be 500, 1,000 even 2,000 people, but all 2,000 don't sign up as Maggies members every year and attend most games.

I get how you felt in 1997. Some couldn't change - didn't like the change - couldn't handle the split, but its a small minority after 23 years.

But the deal has always been, that PAFC wants to prove it is the best team in the land, and after we failed in 1990 bid, it was always going to be a compromise.

But as Richard Colless said - ex WAFC president, West Coast chairman and Swans chairman for nearly 20 years, in the 2006 Headliners program doco for the then Fox Footy Channel - Birth of the West Coast Eagles, when told that the VFL had changed the licence condition that instead of paying the licence fee of $4mil over 10 years they had to find $4mil in 6 weeks and he and 4 others each personally put up $1million and all he got out of it was a tie;

It was an incredibly disadvantageous deal. People might say, then why did you do it? The view I took and some of my colleagues took was;

that a bad deal that got us in, was a better than a theoretical good deal that left us on the sidelines.

And that's the decision Port board and members took. A theoretical good deal was that the club would move lock, stock and barrel into the AFL. But we didn't want to be on the sidelines, we took the forced splitting up of the club.

Over time, just like the WCE we have tried to fixed that up. Mainly thru the One Club merger in 2010 then the full reunification in 2013. And there is more fixing up to do. Its not perfect, its got problems, but as a Port supporter of 45 years I wanted to see my club play in the best comp in the land. I had my doubts in 1986 and 1987, but after spending a year in North America in 1988-89, I saw the future of sports in Oz and I wanted us in.

At 0.55 is the above quote, but also look at 3.20 to 3.55 at how WCE had to pay to get in. You can find parts 1 and 3 in youtube on the right hand side of this video link.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Who am i trolling? I don't disagree with anyone's point of view, just saying that there are different ones that are valid.

Doesn't help people think this way when the first post by a Brisbane Lions fan in Big Footy, is in a thread about the Port Magpies.

 

[chiwigi]

That's good but doesn't change why a Magpies fan in 1997 would have some indecision about automatically dropping their existing AFL team they supported(if they had one) to follow the new team.

Because some people are ****ing idiots.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Look, I really don’t care what people think. I put into my pocket to be a Port Magpies member. I’ve been there amongst probably you all, decked in my Black and white cheering like crazy. People’s AFL team holds no relevance among the cheers and jeers of our game. I come here as a port magpies supporter and this has absolutely nothing to do with the Crows. Nothing! The thread is about Port Magpies, my team. If people can’t distinguish the difference that is their problem.

But in goodwill I will “piss off”. But I can guarantee that you will see me again at an sanfl game. I will be the one donned in black and white(no teal). We will high five, abuse the opposition cuss the umps and be drunk on victory (and probably beer).

This thread is about the Port Adelaide Football Club.

There is no Port Magpies that exists outside of the Port Adelaide Football Club. They are one and the same.


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[RossFC]

I don't know, but does it mean that you are a bad Power supporter and a troll, traitor etc if you continue to just happily support the Port AFL men's team but draw the line and decide not to follow this new pink and white women's Port team?

It's one thing to say you don't care for one of AFL level footy, SANFL level footy or womens footy. Maybe you only like 1 or 2 of those leagues.

But in this hypothetical, to not acknowledge these 3 teams compete under the Port Adelaide Football Club umbrella, and then openly support another team in this is delusional.

It's like being a South Adelaide supporter at SANFL level, but then also supporting Centrals in the Under 18s comp. It doesn't make sense.

 

[Alex09]

Doesn't help people think this way when the first post by a Brisbane Lions fan in Big Footy, is in a thread about the Port Magpies.

I get that, but i care about the Port Magpies a lot more than i do about the Lions and looking at the Power board for Magpies news in light of the bad news of the last week.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

There are plenty of Magpies supporters who don't support the Power for one reason or another. I was a Port member from 1988 - 2013 and still attend Magpies games since then. I started following Brisbane and AFL in general when Nathan Buckley went there in '93. I went to a few Power games early on in '97 - '98 time frame. I never warmed to them though because the Power players themselves at the time were saying in the media that this is a new club and not the original Port Adelaide. I believed them, especially when the Port Adelaide i had known was still there in the SANFL in '97 with almost the exact same team that they had in '96. The Power of '97 on the other hand was full of strangers with a new uniform, new nickname, new colours, new song, new logo etc. Friends of mine who were Sturt supporters and who hated Port were now going for the "Power". It was a strange time and to judge someone like "Bovo" if you were not there at the time is a bit rich. If you were there then you would surely understand how the supporter base became fragmented and be a bit more open minded to different perspectives.

I was there and there wasn't even a decision to make. The club I love finally took its rightful place in the big league.

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[Jojay]

Thanks to Gary Macintosh for clearing up that Port Power are a franchise and established in 1997 "let's get that straight" were his words.

While in the same breath saying he's still waiting for the crows to hand over their license to the Redlegs to see a traditional club in the AFL. [emoji848]

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Some people are just a lost cause and you don't even bother - irrespective of whether they can football. He obviously just ain't that bright.

 

[NoddyHolder]

It was a strange time and to judge someone like "Bovo" if you were not there at the time is a bit rich. If you were there then you would surely understand how the supporter base became fragmented and be a bit more open minded to different perspectives.

I was there at the time and after all the shit we had to go through to get in the afl nothing was more infuriating than that small group of Port supporters who decided they didn't like teal and were really a lifelong Collingwood/CamryCrow/Whoever supporter after all.
**** them

 

[Papa G]

There are plenty of Magpies supporters who don't support the Power for one reason or another. I was a Port member from 1988 - 2013 and still attend Magpies games since then. I started following Brisbane and AFL in general when Nathan Buckley went there in '93. I went to a few Power games early on in '97 - '98 time frame. I never warmed to them though because the Power players themselves at the time were saying in the media that this is a new club and not the original Port Adelaide. I believed them, especially when the Port Adelaide i had known was still there in the SANFL in '97 with almost the exact same team that they had in '96. The Power of '97 on the other hand was full of strangers with a new uniform, new nickname, new colours, new song, new logo etc. Friends of mine who were Sturt supporters and who hated Port were now going for the "Power". It was a strange time and to judge someone like "Bovo" if you were not there at the time is a bit rich. If you were there then you would surely understand how the supporter base became fragmented and be a bit more open minded to different perspectives.

I was there at the time and after all the shit we had to go through to get in the afl nothing was more infuriating than that small group of Port supporters who decided they didn't like teal and were really a lifelong Collingwood/CamryCrow/Whoever supporter after all.
fu** them

The Cognitive Dissonance is mind blowing.

 

[Magus]

What is there left to say to people who support one and not the other?

 

[JimmyBC]

Thank god people like Bruce Webber were not in this Geoffa line of thinking we'd be in absolute nowhere land like Norwood.

*Even Fos was a believer years before a national league

 

[FPPF]

There are plenty of Magpies supporters who don't support the Power for one reason or another. I was a Port member from 1988 - 2013 and still attend Magpies games since then. I started following Brisbane and AFL in general when Nathan Buckley went there in '93. I went to a few Power games early on in '97 - '98 time frame. I never warmed to them though because the Power players themselves at the time were saying in the media that this is a new club and not the original Port Adelaide. I believed them, especially when the Port Adelaide i had known was still there in the SANFL in '97 with almost the exact same team that they had in '96. The Power of '97 on the other hand was full of strangers with a new uniform, new nickname, new colours, new song, new logo etc. Friends of mine who were Sturt supporters and who hated Port were now going for the "Power". It was a strange time and to judge someone like "Bovo" if you were not there at the time is a bit rich. If you were there then you would surely understand how the supporter base became fragmented and be a bit more open minded to different perspectives.

You're a Port supporter are you? Magpies, Power, whatever, same thing. There is one club. The abomination that was created in 1997 to play in the SANFL was not the original Port Adelaide Football Club.

Most people who post on here, and many people who are Port Adelaide members and attend games weren't there back then when Port joined the AFL, and many of them weren't even born. And if all these 'youngins' can comprehend Port Adelaide's history despite being born and raised in the "power" era, I'm sure someone like you who was around in the 80's attending games can wrap his head around it and see right through a troll like Bovo (all be it on your second attempt).

 

[Alex09]

You're a Port supporter are you? Magpies, Power, whatever, same thing. There is one club. The abomination that was created in 1997 to play in the SANFL was not the original Port Adelaide Football Club.

Most people who post on here, and many people who are Port Adelaide members and attend games weren't there back then when Port joined the AFL, and many of them weren't even born. And if all these 'youngins' can comprehend Port Adelaide's history despite being born and raised in the "power" era, I'm sure someone like you who was around in the 80's attending games can wrap his head around it and see right through a troll like Bovo (all be it on your second attempt).

In 1996 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies
In 1997 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies

Same uniform, colours, name, mascot, song, players, competition etc. The 1996 team i was cheering for was ok but the 1997 one was an abomination. I just can't understand this, to me as a simple thinking person they are the same freaking team.

 

[Papa G]

In 1996 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies
In 1997 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies

Same uniform, colours, name, mascot, song, players, competition etc. The 1996 team i was cheering for was ok but the 1997 one was an abomination. I just can't understand this, to me as a simple thinking person they are the same freaking team.

You are right. You are simple thinking.

 

[wannabejack]

In 1996 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies
In 1997 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies

Same uniform, colours, name, mascot, song, players, competition etc. The 1996 team i was cheering for was ok but the 1997 one was an abomination. I just can't understand this, to me as a simple thinking person they are the same freaking team.

"In 1996 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies" (PAFC)
"In 1997 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies" (PAMFC)

 

[Magus]

I never warmed to them though because the Power players themselves at the time were saying in the media that this is a new club and not the original Port Adelaide. I believed them, especially when the Port Adelaide i had known was still there in the SANFL in '97 with almost the exact same team that they had in '96. The Power of '97 on the other hand was full of strangers with a new uniform, new nickname, new colours, new song, new logo etc.

In 1996 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies
In 1997 i supported a team called the Port Adelaide Magpies

Same uniform, colours, name, mascot, song, players, competition etc. The 1996 team i was cheering for was ok but the 1997 one was an abomination. I just can't understand this, to me as a simple thinking person they are the same freaking team.

Yet you couldn't work out that the club that entered the AFL in 1997, based at Alberton, ran by Boulton and Cunningham, coached by Cahill and with 13 listed Port Adelaide SANFL players was the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Weird how that works.

 

[bomberclifford]

Yet you couldn't work out that the club that entered the AFL in 1997, based at Alberton, ran by Boulton and Cunningham, coached by Cahill and with 13 listed Port Adelaide SANFL players was the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Weird how that works.

That teal was blinding.

 

[Alex09]

That teal was blinding.

Yep, hated it then and still do now. If I was a Power supporter i would 100% boycott it.

 

[Alex09]

Yet you couldn't work out that the club that entered the AFL in 1997, based at Alberton, ran by Boulton and Cunningham, coached by Cahill and with 13 listed Port Adelaide SANFL players was the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Weird how that works.

Yes there was some connections but there was a hell of a lot higher proportion of pre-existing PAFC about the '97 SANFL team than there was about the '97 Power team that how could one logically argue that the PAMFC was a new team? Maybe a new legal entity but the same team as before.